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Chicago radio host Erich "Mancow" Muller decided he'd get himself waterboarded to prove the technique wasn't torture.

It didn't turn out that way. "Mancow," in fact, lasted just six or seven seconds before crying foul. Apparently, the experience went pretty badly -- "Witnesses said Muller thrashed on the table, and even instantly threw the toy cow he was holding as his emergency tool to signify when he wanted the experiment to stop," according to NBC Chicago.

"The average person can take this for 14 seconds," Marine Sergeant Clay South told his audience before he was waterboarded on air. "He's going to wiggle, he's going to scream, he's going to wish he never did this."

Mancow was set on a 7-foot long table with his legs elevated and his feet tied.

"I wanted to prove it wasn't torture," Mancow said. "They cut off our heads, we put water on their face...I got voted to do this but I really thought 'I'm going to laugh this off.' "

The upshot? "It is way worse than I thought it would be, and that's no joke," Mancow told listeners. "It is such an odd feeling to have water poured down your nose with your head back...It was instantaneous...and I don't want to say this: absolutely torture."

"Absolutely. I mean that's drowning," he added later. "It is the feeling of drowning."

"If I knew it was gonna be this bad, I would not have done it," he said.

The 42-year-old radio host is no stranger to controversy. In 2005, he was maligned for saying that then-Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean was "vile," "bloodthirsty," "evil" and "should be kicked out of America."


He deserves kudos for actually volunteering to be waterboarded. Now if that coward Hannity would follow through on his promise to let it happen to him, and Limbaugh and Cheney stop being chickenhawks and also volunteer, maybe we can put an end to this ridiculous debate once and for all.
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5,4,3 I lied....

he had it coming, but at least he was willing to admit he was wrong, more than most of the pinheads will do.
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It doesn't redeem any of his other jackassery.

This is the man that, due to his kids not being able to practice Easter in their public school or some such bollocks said we should not observe Earth Day because we are not pagans and do not worship the earth.

He also seems to get hard from saying that he and people like him are a threat and major concern to Obama.
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A Playboy journalist (that's right, they have journalists at Playboy) underwent the same thing. See link for video. He also lasted 6 seconds. I get shivers even thinking about what that might feel like.

Also, that guitar riff is really annoying.
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Koolaidkirby wrote:5,4,3 I lied....

he had it coming, but at least he was willing to admit he was wrong, more than most of the pinheads will do.

why am I now picturing someone photoshopping Cheney, Limbaugh, and Hannity as characters created by Clive Barker.
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Well I have to give the guys kudos for, ytou know, ACTUALLY doing it, who was that foxnews broadcaster who said he would do it for Charity? I know Olberman offered 1000$ A second for how long HE Lasted,
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hongi wrote:A Playboy journalist (that's right, they have journalists at Playboy) underwent the same thing. See link for video. He also lasted 6 seconds. I get shivers even thinking about what that might feel like.

Also, that guitar riff is really annoying.
Uh. . .the "Playboy journalist" you're linking to is the same one in the OP you know.
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General Zod wrote:Uh. . .the "Playboy journalist" you're linking to is the same one in the OP you know.
Scroll down a bit. The playboy dude is on there, as is Hitchens.
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He thought he'd "laugh this off"? Seriously? This guy thinks that he'd just "laugh off" a technique that's supposed to bring the world's most hardened terrorists to their knees? Did he honestly think it wouldn't be a big deal to feel like he's drowning, and if so, how far down does the delusion go with these people?
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These people don't seem to think too deeply on things.
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SiegeTank wrote:He thought he'd "laugh this off"? Seriously? This guy thinks that he'd just "laugh off" a technique that's supposed to bring the world's most hardened terrorists to their knees? Did he honestly think it wouldn't be a big deal to feel like he's drowning, and if so, how far down does the delusion go with these people?
Yeah, this guy failed Logic 101. If it WASN'T torture, then there isn't that much point in doing it to someone to interrogate them.
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From MSNBC(Sorry, no link I could find yet).
MSNBC's Keith Olbermann on tonight's "Countdown" pledged to donate $10,000 to charity after disc jockey Erich "Mancow" Muller was waterboarded today on live radio, in an attempt to prove the technique was "not torture." After six seconds Muller said it was "absolutely torture" and that were he to be interrogated by the use of waterboarding he would "confess to anything." Olbermann promised to donate $10,000 to the charity Veterans of Valor, founded by Sgt. Klay South, who administered the waterboarding to Muller today, and withdrew his offer to Sean Hannity to make a donation to the charity of his choice if he followed through on his offer to undergo waterboarding.
The challenge had been a thousand dollar donation for each second lasted, and doubled if they then admitted it was torture. Close enough. And as promised, it went to a veteran charity of the hapless conservative's choice.
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Still the ministry of truth will continue to keep towing the lien....
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SiegeTank wrote:He thought he'd "laugh this off"? Seriously? This guy thinks that he'd just "laugh off" a technique that's supposed to bring the world's most hardened terrorists to their knees? Did he honestly think it wouldn't be a big deal to feel like he's drowning, and if so, how far down does the delusion go with these people?
As shown, Mancow is an idiot.
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SirNitram wrote:From MSNBC(Sorry, no link I could find yet).
Not sure if you want the story or the video...but...

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Koolaidkirby wrote:5,4,3 I lied....

he had it coming, but at least he was willing to admit he was wrong, more than most of the pinheads will do.

Emphaiss mine so...Fuck you

No I don't normally start off with that as a line but anyone who posts about a person being tortured (even voluntarily) with "he had it coming" needs to re-evaluate their membership in civilized society. He has said some truly vile things over the years but, and just as with those who may or may not have killed thousands, NOTHING deserves torture.
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Emphaiss mine so...Fuck you

No I don't normally start off with that as a line but anyone who posts about a person being tortured (even voluntarily) with "he had it coming" needs to re-evaluate their membership in civilized society. He has said some truly vile things over the years but, and just as with those who may or may not have killed thousands, NOTHING deserves torture.
I meant that he had the wake up call & realization that he was acting like a moron coming... not the torture, obviously no one deserves to be tortured, that's something i very firmly believe.

It came out differently than i originally intended.
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Koolaidkirby wrote:I meant that he had the wake up call & realization that he was acting like a moron coming... not the torture, obviously no one deserves to be tortured, that's something i very firmly believe.

It came out differently than i originally intended.
Fair enough. It just certainly seemed the way I mentioned which is why I reacted that harshly but obviously context and subtext are often hard enough when writing instead of speaking.
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Just as a reminder, this Mancow clown will be on MSNBC's Countdown tonight in a short while.
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Okay, here is the segment with Mancow on Countdown:



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Hang on a minute. He thought he could hold his breath, why didn't he just do it? Obviously it won't work in real life, but since he was confident he could last 30 seconds before he was waterboarded, couldn't he "cheat" and hold his breath for that long, especially since the "torturer" told him exactly when the water is going to start flowing?
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mr friendly guy wrote:Hang on a minute. He thought he could hold his breath, why didn't he just do it? Obviously it won't work in real life, but since he was confident he could last 30 seconds before he was waterboarded, couldn't he "cheat" and hold his breath for that long, especially since the "torturer" told him exactly when the water is going to start flowing?
The guy pouring the water lied, I think Mancow may have been planning on doing just that, holding his breath, but the guy told him 'We're gonna go on 5 ok...1...2...I lied (pours water)" so again a little bit of psych out as he was steeling himself and then water comes on down.
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Ok, I must have not watched it closely enough. I will take your word for it since I don't plan to watch it again.
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Even if he had held is breath, doesn't a correctly performed waterboarding induce a reflex action that causes someone to feel as though they're drowning regardless?
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