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If that is in any way true Uriel now becomes in my mind Carbon Dioxde man and thus suitable for inclusion on the list of stupid Captain Planet villains.

That and an excellent way for him to kill people, however it does not explain how our reporter friend could be walking alongside Uriel and survive, but however about we run with that asphyxiation idea? How many very small scale portals can an angle make? How many what's can an angle what for that matter? I don't think we are going to get a good Ah-ha Uriel superpower back-story explanation for at least two more chapters.

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The Duchess of Zeon wrote:I think that, really, since so far Hell has followed Dante's plan, why not Purgatory and Heaven? The hostages could be dropped into purgatory with less concern for Yahweh.
Is there even a purgatory? I never noticed any mention of it (though I am infamous for my spotty memory back at college).
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Stuart wrote:
Surlethe wrote: What do you mean? That we can portal to hell and then out to a space station in Pluto orbit in seconds? There be some interesting physical implications.
Exactly, but there's a catch. One has to get somebody to Pluto first to act as a beacon/pathfinder. Once that is done, its a simple double link. So, building a moonbase has suddenly become rather easy; it gets progressively more difficult as the distances increase and getting the first person to the desired site takes longer and longer.
On the other hand, if you have a Moonbase that can be (relatively) easily supplied via portal, then getting people to the outer planets "quickly" can be handled with a mini-mag Orion.

Most of the objections to using a fission or fusion powered torchship are based around arguments of "Not in MY atmosphere you don't, buddy!" So, if it never needs to enter the Earth's atmosphere, then the objections vanish.

Best thing about it (from my Trekkie POV)? If you want to, you can build the damned things to look like a DY-100. *grin*

So.... once you've got a working and reasonably self-reliant Moonbase, Mars is only three months away (less, if your people don't mind putting up with long term acceleration greater than one g), and Jupiter is one year.

Beyond that, things do get stickier -- but you can use the chain of stations to make them SEEM shorter. Depending on the relative position of the planets, Mars would at times be much closer to Jupiter than the Earth would, so hey, if there's an emergency, why not go *there*?

(And of course, making some of the Amor family of NEO asteroids into "self-propelled" bases would work nicely, once they have a portal station. Hmm.. why am I thinking that someone will incorporate a new business - Aperture Science? *smirk*)

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Vehrec wrote:
Lonestar wrote:The Super Hornet is a USN plane.
Just listing two aircraft made the list look very thin, and made me sad. I had to pad it with something extra.
I believe Chapter One lists a Super Hornet variant (the F-18H) entering USAF service because it needs significantly more aircraft to continue operations. (Hence the "commandeer WWII, Korean and Vietnam Wars-era aircraft from museums" in Armageddon.)

I'm curious about the bomber variant of the C-17. Can it still perform transport duties with minimal modification? Or are the bomb bay doors too weak by design to support the weight of cargo, because they must open and close repeatedly? (I thought of Boeing and Lockheed designing a bomb rail that can be fitted to and removed from a cargo plane with relative ease, like the conformal fuel tanks of an F-15. The idea was the cargo ramp lowers so the rails may extend backwards; then the bombs, which the rails suspend from the cargo bay ceiling, are away. Then I realized the aircraft's handling would be seriously fucked, as the center-of-gravity would shift as the rails extend and drop the bombs.)
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Sidewinder wrote:

"I believe Chapter One lists a Super Hornet variant (the F-18H) entering USAF service because it needs significantly more aircraft to continue operations. (Hence the "commandeer WWII, Korean and Vietnam Wars-era aircraft from museums" in Armageddon.)

I'm curious about the bomber variant of the C-17. Can it still perform transport duties with minimal modification? Or are the bomb bay doors too weak by design to support the weight of cargo, because they must open and close repeatedly? (I thought of Boeing and Lockheed designing a bomb rail that can be fitted to and removed from a cargo plane with relative ease, like the conformal fuel tanks of an F-15. The idea was the cargo ramp lowers so the rails may extend backwards; then the bombs, which the rails suspend from the cargo bay ceiling, are away. Then I realized the aircraft's handling would be seriously fucked, as the center-of-gravity would shift as the rails extend and drop the bombs.)
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One could make an argument for the F/A18A-D counting as all of the export customers don't have aircraft carriers, eg the RAAF. .

I think that a "bomber" version of the C-17 may require some significant changes unless the proposal is merely to use the back ramp to off-load bombs and/or make it into a gunship with a capacity to carry ordinance on the wings,

To have a proper bomb bay might require some serious work on the basic airframe. There most probably have been a number of studies on conversions of what is a most useful aircraft - MKSheppard, do you have anything on this?
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Sidewinder wrote: I believe Chapter One lists a Super Hornet variant (the F-18H) entering USAF service because it needs significantly more aircraft to continue operations. (Hence the "commandeer WWII, Korean and Vietnam Wars-era aircraft from museums" in Armageddon.)
There's a numbers game going on with the introduction of "mobilization" versions of aircraft already on the production lines, simplifying them as much as possible to cut down production time and cost. So, the F-18H is a simplified F-18E with much of the electronic warfare equipment not fitted (with and F-18J as the two-seat simplified F-18F). Then there's the A-45 that's a T-45 Goshawk fitted with the single-seat forward fuselage of developed by BAE Systems as a cheap, quick-to-produce light strike aircraft for the carriers and anybody else who needs them. You can bet that the Su-25 is coming off the production line as fast as the Russians can build them. There's also likely to be an A-10 successor in the pipeline.
I'm curious about the bomber variant of the C-17. Can it still perform transport duties with minimal modification? Or are the bomb bay doors too weak by design to support the weight of cargo, because they must open and close repeatedly? (I thought of Boeing and Lockheed designing a bomb rail that can be fitted to and removed from a cargo plane with relative ease, like the conformal fuel tanks of an F-15. The idea was the cargo ramp lowers so the rails may extend backwards; then the bombs, which the rails suspend from the cargo bay ceiling, are away. Then I realized the aircraft's handling would be seriously fucked, as the center-of-gravity would shift as the rails extend and drop the bombs.)
The B-3 is the bomber derivative of the C-17. It basically uses the wings and tail of the C-17 and combines them with a new fuselage that's optimized for use as a bomber (ie no stern ramp, bomb bay doors in the lower fuselage). This is a real proposal by the way although it doesn't seem to have gained much traction.
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If we can step through a portal into Hell from Earth and back out again into a station on Pluto or aboard a starship speeding to the nearest star, how is the story going to preserve causality?
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Surlethe wrote:If we can step through a portal into Hell from Earth and back out again into a station on Pluto or aboard a starship speeding to the nearest star, how is the story going to preserve causality?
How do we know there isn't a transmission delay roughly corresponding to c? If Heaven and Hell are assumed to be dimensionally close to Earth, then you wouldn't notice this delay for trips to and from any point on Earth, but you would notice for a starship. Remember that both Heaven and Hell are dimensionally very limited places compared to the visible universe.
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JBG wrote:I think that a "bomber" version of the C-17 may require some significant changes unless the proposal is merely to use the back ramp to off-load bombs and/or make it into a gunship with a capacity to carry ordinance on the wings,
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Darth Wong wrote:
Surlethe wrote:If we can step through a portal into Hell from Earth and back out again into a station on Pluto or aboard a starship speeding to the nearest star, how is the story going to preserve causality?
How do we know there isn't a transmission delay roughly corresponding to c? If Heaven and Hell are assumed to be dimensionally close to Earth, then you wouldn't notice this delay for trips to and from any point on Earth, but you would notice for a starship. Remember that both Heaven and Hell are dimensionally very limited places compared to the visible universe.
I'm not sure what you mean - a transmission delay corresponding to c between Earth and Hell, or a transmission delay associated with tunneling from one place in Earth-universe to another through Hell? I'm not sure about the former, since it seems to associate a notion of "distance" between a location in one universe and a location in another, and I don't see why that's justified.
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Surlethe wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:
Surlethe wrote:If we can step through a portal into Hell from Earth and back out again into a station on Pluto or aboard a starship speeding to the nearest star, how is the story going to preserve causality?
How do we know there isn't a transmission delay roughly corresponding to c? If Heaven and Hell are assumed to be dimensionally close to Earth, then you wouldn't notice this delay for trips to and from any point on Earth, but you would notice for a starship. Remember that both Heaven and Hell are dimensionally very limited places compared to the visible universe.
I'm not sure what you mean - a transmission delay corresponding to c between Earth and Hell, or a transmission delay associated with tunneling from one place in Earth-universe to another through Hell? I'm not sure about the former, since it seems to associate a notion of "distance" between a location in one universe and a location in another, and I don't see why that's justified.
If it creates problems with causality, why isn't that sufficient justification? It's not as if we understand anything about the geometry of the connection between our space-time and theirs, especially since theirs appears to be miniscule compared to ours.
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Ah, I see. I suppose that's as good as anything. My thought had been similar, but with some sort of "conservation of causality" on transmission back to Earth. I suppose that would require cosmic recognition of where something originated, though, so that's probably an extra, unnecessary assumption.
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Stuart wrote:
Sidewinder wrote: I believe Chapter One lists a Super Hornet variant (the F-18H) entering USAF service because it needs significantly more aircraft to continue operations. (Hence the "commandeer WWII, Korean and Vietnam Wars-era aircraft from museums" in Armageddon.)
There's a numbers game going on with the introduction of "mobilization" versions of aircraft already on the production lines, simplifying them as much as possible to cut down production time and cost. So, the F-18H is a simplified F-18E with much of the electronic warfare equipment not fitted (with and F-18J as the two-seat simplified F-18F).
As others noted on the Armageddon thread, we humans still have to deal with each other when the Salvation War is over. Is it possible to install the EW equipment in the F-18H if it must deal with enemies with radar to jam, e.g., if the demon-human hybrid from Stas Bush's stories, gets mind control over the crew of a SPAAG or SAM battery?
There's also likely to be an A-10 successor in the pipeline.
I believe you mentioned Fairchild disposed of the tooling necessary to build new A-10s, to free up assets for T-46 orders that never came, in Armageddon. What will an A-10 successor look like? A license-built variant of the Su-25? An F/A-18 without afterburners or supersonic capabilities? The C-27J tail and drivetrain combined with revised wings- lots of underwing hardpoints- and a new fuselage that can handle the GAU-8/A's recoil?
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Those gun nuts do not understand the meaning of "overkill," and will simply use weapon after weapon of mass destruction (WMD) until the monster is dead, or until they run out of weapons.

They have more WMD than there are monsters for us to fight. (More insanity here.)
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Sky over Khabarovsk, Russia. January 2009

Gliding in the skies high over the Earth, Colopatiron Lan Michael, strained all his senses to seek out threats from the humans who crowded the ground below him. The effort interfered with his soavoring of the tastes of human air, the smells, so faint but still unmistakable, of human life. Savoring the senses was one of the great rewards of entering human space but it could not be allowed to interfere with the task before him. This mission was crucial but extremely dangerous for it did not just take the angel into human space but into one of the most heavily defended areas on earth. Colopatiron could feel just how heavy the defenses were here, his skin was itching madly from the strange instruments that humans used and he knew his presence had to be known to the humans. They would be doing something about that very soon and all of Heaven had seen the destruction humans and their weapons had wrought on The Eternal Enemy and his fallen minions. Colopatiron's mission was a response to that stunning display. The consummation of the wrath of The One Above All with the people of earth who had defied His will and continued to live a life of sin in disobedience to the Divine Message and yet did not repent was at hand.

For slung under him was the First Bowl of Wrath and already its contents were trickling out over the ground below. Soon, it would become a loathsome and malignant sore on the people who had the mark of the beast. Colopatiron was but one of twenty angels who were pouring the First Bowl of Wrath. Hand-picked by Michael-Lan himself they were striking the first substantial blow against the mutinous and recalcitrant humans who had become so saturated with pride they had even dared question the supremacy of the One Above All. And yet, his appointment for this mission was a puzzlement to Colopatiron for he had always believed that he was not amongst those Michael-Lan considered his most trusted. Still, who was he, a lowly angel to question the leader of his Choir, the one whose name he bore as part of his own?

The Bowl was nearly empty now but Colopatiron sensed it was already too late. He concentrated his power upon his hearing and was rewarded by the sound of human aircraft, approaching fast. Now, angel or not, owl of Wrath or not, he would have to fight to survive.

Thirty kilometers to the north, in his Su-35BM, Captain Yahiya Saifullovich Fatkullin was flying with his radar switched off but his infra-red tracking system was showing the angel perfectly. Far off to the south, another pair of Su-35s were illuminating the angel with their radars, decoying it away from Fatkullin's formation and diverting their victim's attention away from the vector of the true strike. Maskirovka, always maskirovka, the lesson hammered into every Russian officer from their first day of training. Deceive, misdirect, decoy. Never do the obvious unless the obvious is so unlikely nobody would take it seriously. It was a long, long way from Fatkullin's flight school in the Kurgan region of the Urals, just as his Su-35BM was a long, long way from the MiG-17UTI he had flown in the earliest days of his pilot training.

He glanced down, checking his speed. He was moving in, just under Mach one to minimize the warning given to his prey and to give his missiles the greatest possible kinetic boost. His infra-red tracking system was already feeding target information to his R-77M missiles, he would be firing them using that data and the missiles would only switch on their radar guidance systems when their computers told them the target was only in the no-escape zone. It was a deadly tactic that the Indians had used well against the Americans and given their arrogant Eagle-drivers a lesson to think upon. With a little luck, the angel would never know what it was that had killed it. Another lesson from his flight school, a grim one. A successful fighter pilot was an assassin, not a warrior. Another check on his display, the angel was marked using the data from the infra-red tracking systems, the other pair of Su-35s from their transponders. Even as Fatkullin watched, the southernmost pair of Su-35s turned north and started to move in. Time for the attack.

Colopatiron saw the two human aircraft accelerate and swing towards him. This was bad, very bad. In his excess of the sin of pride, the Eternal Enemy had never bothered to learn much about humans and that was why he had died under their weapons. Colopatiron would not make that mistake. He adjusted his vision for long range and darkness and saw the two aircraft streaking towards him. Instinctively he knew that they were the source of the infernal itching in his skin and he acted according to his instincts. His lungs flexed, his voice drew upon all the powers of the Chorus and he emitted a blast of pure sound at the lead aircraft, sound so pure and above reproach that it flung the fighter from the sky. Colopatiron watched it crumple in mid-air, saw it fall and the human who flew it eject from the great transparent house that rode upon its nose. He felt triumph swell within him at the sight of those who defied the One Above All being driven from the skies they claimed as their own but he crushed it down. There was no time to exult over the fate of a fallen foe.

Lieutenant Viktor Matveevich Rakitin had known that, as the two most junior pilots in the flight of four Su-35s, he and Blue-861 would be the decoys. What he had not expected was for the angel they were hunting to respond to their feint so quickly. The blow that had struck Blue-861 had thrown it out of control and wrecked its internal structure, probably also caused both jet engines to flame out. The fringes of the same blow had caught his own aircraft, throwing him against his straps, but his faithful Blue-863 had stood the shock and kept flying. He had a radar lock on the angel so he selected his R-77Ms and fired a pair of them at the target before heaving back on the stick, ramming his throttles forward and soaring skyward. That had put him well clear of the course of the two missiles and so out of danger when something had tumbled them and sent them plummeting from the sky. It didn't matter though, Blue-861 and Blue-863 had done their job, the angel had spent the few seconds it had to react concentrating on them and in doing so, it had allowed Blue-860 and Blue-862 to get into perfect firing positions.

Colopatiron had blown the two missiles aimed at it out of the sky with the same casual ease he had used to wipe out the first aircraft. Now was the time to deal with its mate, and his eyes tracked the second aircraft as it swept skywards, accelerating fast. He gave forth another blast of sound, revelling in its purity as he did so, but it was ineffective. It did not matter, the aircraft was running from battle and the skies were clear for his return home. Then Colopatiron felt the burning agony as he was enveloped in explosions and he knew that he would not be going home again. Weakened and in agony, knowing he was dying, he tried one last shot against the humans who had out-fought him.

It was a perfect assassination, his flight instructors would have been proud. The angel had never even realized the four missiles fired by the two Su-35s were inbound until they had slammed into his body and eviscerated him. Fatkullin saw the angel writhing in mid-air, saw it turn and mouth at him. His faithful Blue-860 shook in ways that rattled his teeth and caused his sight to blur but the effects of four missile hits had weakened the angel so much that the wall he felt as if his aircraft had flown into was a comparatively fragile thing. His continuously-computed impact point for his 30mm gun was on the angel, so Fatkullin squeezed the trigger and pumped a long burst into the still-moving body. Once his gun had had a burst-limiter but that had long been removed in recognition of the fact that Baldricks and angels were so damned hard to kill. Now, the shells stitched a line across the target and the angel fell from the sky.

"Eagle Control. This is Blue-860. Target is negated, say again, target is negated. Blue-861 lost to an unknown weapon. Returning to base."

The Montmartre Club, Heaven.

The last strains of "Nightmare" faded away and the band leader stepped forward to a burst of rapturous applause from the audience. He cast an apprehensive eye at the great figure sitting off to one side but Michael-Lan had risen to his feet and was applauding enthusiastically.

"Well done, Artie, great performance. You too Billie, shame you two ever split up down on Earth."

"Thank you Excellency…"

"Hey, not so much of the Excellency, you know very well that I have to put up with too much of that nonsense out there. In here, its Michael, Michael-Lan if you want to be more formal. And a great artist like you, well associating with us as if we are equals is just one of the benefits of the job. Anyway, you and your band have a rest now, we've got a stage act coming up and then Glen is on."

Michael-Lan walked back through the crowd, looking around him at the scene that, for all its apparent casualness, lay at the center of his plans. The air was tinged with the scent of fine cigars, the occupants and staff of the club, a mixture of humans and members of the angelic host, were laughing and exchanging pleasantries. Cocktail waitresses in outfits that left nothing to the imagination were serving drinks. Every so often, a customer would grab one of the girls, there would be a brief conversation and then they would vanish to one of the rooms upstairs. Up on the stage, the band had finished clearing their instruments away and the scene was dressed as a room in a hotel somewhere. Two young female angels were on the stage, sitting on the bed, running their hands over each other's bodies. The audience had quieted down a little, they were becoming fascinated by the story the two performers were opening up before them.

Michael-Lan got a strange feeling that if humans had actually designed Heaven, this was more or less what they would have come up with. As the idea occurred to him, he got the warm, fuzzy feeling he always got these days when he thought of humans. For millenia he had despised them, looking on them with the same cold contempt for their mindless obedience and submission that Yahweh had made so obvious. Then, a few centuries ago, humans had stopped being blindly-obedient beasts and started to question what surrounded them. Only a few at first, but slowly those few had opened the eyes of a few more and a few more again. Soon, a critical mass had been reached and the humans had broken out of the prison Yahweh had imposed upon them and begun to build their own society.

Michael-Lan had investigated that society with the intent of tearing it down but as he had started his inquiries, somehow, he'd caught the human disease and started to question the assumptions he'd been trained never to doubt. As the questions in his mind had multiplied, he had found, to his own disbelief, that he was beginning to like these new humans. More than that, a plan, complex and devious, had begun to form in his mind. A small part of that plan was here, small yet critical beyond measure. He had formed this club, he had rescued humans from torment to staff and run it. It drew on all the impressions he had gathered on his visits to Earth, part speakeasy, part bordello, part burlesque show, it was the honey in the center of his scheme.

He glanced again at the stage. The two angels were now down on the bed, twisting in simulated passion. Michael-Lan gave them top marks for innovative use of wings and imaginative application of feathers and then turned to one of his guests.

"Having a good time Gabriel-Lan?"

"As always, Michael-Lan. What did we do for fun before you started this place?" The Archangel Gabriel's voice was slurred from too much whisky. That reminded Michael, he was going to have to do something about ensuring supplies. Earth was getting harder to visit with the war now in full swing. As if Gabriel had read Michael's thoughts, he asked "And how goes the war?"

"The first Bowl of Wrath was poured today. The operation was successful although sadly the Angels delivering the Bowl did not survive the human defenses." Which was fortunate, Michael-Lan thought. He had carefully picked those Angels from those whose loyalties might have been conflicted enough to hazard his plans.

"Seems like a rotten thing to do to the humans down there." Gabriel was definitely drunk. Michael would have to make sure he was sobered up before he left the club. Yahweh absolutely did not need to know this place existed. He might be the all-knowing but that only applied when people didn't use extraordinary measures to stop him from finding out. Michael-Lan had been applying those measures for some centuries now and neither Yahweh nor the late, unlamented Satan had been as all-knowing as they had believed. Michael gave a small signal with one hand and the house madam gave him a knowing grin.

"Gabriel-Lan, we have got to keep the humans out of Heaven. Look, they loathed Satan for everything he did and because of that, they killed him in process of destroying everything he had built. But, Satan just tortured them for all eternity. We betrayed them. Satan never pretended to be anything other than what he was or had plans anything other than what he announced. We, all of us, acted nice, made lots of promises and reneged on every one of them. They loathed Satan but they hate us. If they get their Army up here, they will destroy Heaven and kill us all. You heard that tune they played, it wasn't just an insult, it was a promise and humans keep their promises." When it suits them Michael-Lan added to himself. "Humans captured Dis, they will destroy the Eternal City. Our long, wide boulevards make perfect runs for their tanks, the palaces built of precious stones are perfect targets for their guns. Mark this Gabriel-Lan and mark it well. If the humans get their Army into Heaven, we are lost, all of us."

Up on the stage, one of the angels was kneeling, bent over the bed, the other had her arms twisted up her back and was holding her hair, pulling back while she thrust with her hips. Suddenly, the kneeling angel gasped and gave a long, panting cry of ecstasy. Then the two stood up and took their bows to a thunderous round of applause. They got two curtain calls before the stage hands cleared the set and arranged the stage so the next of the big bands could take over.

It might sound dramatic, Michael thought, but it was largely true. If the humans could get to Heaven, the war would be over quickly and unbelievably violently. Not necessarily all the occupants of Heaven would get killed, Michael-Lan had a back-up plan for that eventuality as well and this club featured there as well. But the power structure that had existed in Heaven for untold millennia would be shattered for ever. That was no bad thing, Michael-Lan admitted to himself and he was not adverse to shattering it himself. But it had to be done slowly and carefully and when he moved it had to be with all the cards held firmly in his hand. Satan Mekratrig had been impatient, greedy, avaricious and imprudent. His move had started the Great Celestial War, had split the Host and caused generations of fighting. Michael-Lan had been Yahweh's field commander during that war and he well-appreciated a human saying. One that went "Short of a battle lost, there is nothing so mournful as a battle won." Well, there was, that was a battle that had achieved nothing and changed nothing.

Satan had staged his revolt before he was ready, the result had been a long, bloody war that had achieved nothing and changed nothing. Michael did not intend to make that mistake.

Gabriel-Lan was still at the table and still drunk. Over his shoulder, he could see that Lailah was approaching. She was dressed for work, black leather corset, fishnet tights, high-heeled boots. The outfit was modelled on Earth originals but had been modified to allow for angelic wings although Michael noted she had dyed her wing-feathers black to match the outfit. The dye had to be water-soluble he reflected, he knew for a fact she projected quite a different persona when attending Yahweh's court and jet black wings wouldn't suit it. Her appearance at court was a front, as was that of almost everybody who was a regular guest in this club.

"Why did you think the humans will….." Gabriel-Lan was interrupted by the crack of Lailah's riding crop smacking down across the table.

"You're drunk. Bad Archangel. Bad, bad archangel. What have I told you about getting drunk? How can you pay me proper respect if you're in this condition? And where's my tribute?"

"I'm sorry Mistress Lailah, I didn’t…"

"Stop making excuses. Follow me, I'm going to have to deal with you."

She led Gabriel-Lan away to one of the rooms upstairs, one that she had had carefully soundproofed. Michael-Lan watched their departure. It occurred to him that if he'd hooked Yahweh up with a good dominatrix a lot of millennia ago it would have saved the universes a lot of trouble. Still, the humans hadn't come up with the idea back then.

"Pennsylvania Six-Five Thousand." The chorus from the audience was rousing. Michael-Lan reflected on just how different it sounded when people sang because they enjoyed it, instead of the weary, soul-destroyed chanting that Yahweh insisted on from his chorus.

"Michael-Lan, please, can you help me?"

It was one of the junior female angels. Michael looked carefully, her eyes were puffy, her nose was running slightly and she was blinking at an excessively high rate.

"What can I do Maion?" He knew the answer but he wanted to hear her say it.

"Please, I need some stuff, my supply is out."

Michael-Lan ran through the inventory in his mind. She was hooked on heroin and his contacts with the Myamnar military junta were still good. He had a lot of the stuff stockpiled. "That's going to be a real problem, the war with the humans has cut off supplies and everybody is getting really short."

"Please" Maion was crying with desperation. "I've got to have some stuff. It hurts. I'll do anything, anything you want."

Michael-Lan quickly imagined a few suitable 'anythings' but dismissed them from his mind. He had bigger objectives than his own personal pleasures. "Look, Maion, this stupid war Yahweh started has really screwed things up. Everybody's looking for stuff. I'll tell you what I'll do, I'll give you some stuff from my own private supply, just to tide you over until the war is finished. Don’t tell anybody though or they'll all want some."

"Thank you Michael, thank you so much. I meant what I said, I'll do anything you want."

And it'll surprise you to find out what that is. Michael-Lan thought. And the caution about not telling anybody means she'll tell everybody I've got a supply. And they'll do what I want as well. "Come along, lets get you fixed up."

Michael-Lan took another look around his club as he left. This were really going very well indeed. Only, now he had to get into character and give the latest news of the war to Yahweh. Perhaps he could get another display of multi-colored lightning this time.
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Ahhh, court intrigue! I like it!
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Wow, I always suspected something was going on in Heaven, but this quite surprising. And it's good to know that drugs and chemicals affect the residents of Heaven as well...

But more importantly, what was the first bowl of wrath? How wrathful is it, and how long until the effects are felt? I expect some sort of widespread devastation of the "(un)natural disaster" variety.
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Hawkwings wrote:Wow, I always suspected something was going on in Heaven, but this quite surprising. And it's good to know that drugs and chemicals affect the residents of Heaven as well...

But more importantly, what was the first bowl of wrath? How wrathful is it, and how long until the effects are felt? I expect some sort of widespread devastation of the "(un)natural disaster" variety.
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Oh, that's really delightful. I had no idea that this was what Heaven was going to be like when I wrote the first glimpse of it.
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The Angels appear to have some kind of sonic weapons system, although it seems to have an implausibly long range for such a weapon. Perhaps they have some kind of forcefield which can channel it, resonate certain frequencies, and extend its range, like a gigantic horn.
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A comment from TVTropes - how many basic physics errors can one spot in this?
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Infrasound?

Goddamn the Celestial Host are a bunch of crackfiends and whores. Shit, man. Micheal Lan, you fuck. :lol:

It makes me wonder what the fuck has happened to Jesus. Shit, the guy must be a total junkie.
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Michael-Lan is a Magnificent Bastard. I hope he becomes the archvillian despite "liking humans," because I can't think of anyone else who can fill that role.

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Awesome! I'm keeping track of the characters and places here. Interesting how some modern humans did wind up being brought into Heaven (apparently by being rescued from Hell,) to run Michael-Lan's Heaven-as-designed-by-Humans/opium den for angels. And it's also interesting just how versed he is in the realities of modern, mechanized warfare.
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Looks like the war with Heaven may be a little more difficult.
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She was hooked on heroin and his contacts with the Myamnar military junta were still good.
I'm really curious how the Archangel Michael made contact with the junta. Use his psychic abilities to make the generals think he's just a human businessman, offer to trade opium for the precious stones that Heaven has in bulk? For modern weapons he can get by mind controlling arms manufacturer execs? For deals with oil companies whose mind controlled execs would otherwise obey the various embargos against the junta?

Or does he present himself in all his glory and say, "I'm the Archangel Michael. I know where you'll go when you die- it'll be Hell unless you do a little favor for me. If you deliver, I'll deliver by using my powers and authority to get you into Heaven."
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