Mordor v.s. Taliban-Afghanistan

[Sea Skimmer]

Okay, in my last post the quotes got very screwed up, the first unquoted paragraphs belong to Stormbringer, the others are my replies.

[Stormbringer]

So they can be killed. We'll then given that they've never faced anything remotely like modern weapons, you really cant say how they would effect them. Sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic after all. I dont think they would be killed, but who knows. And your still stuck with just nine men with swoards.

If all those siege weapons and such aimd at them over the years hasn't done the job I don't think we in the modern have got anything better.

Nine, invulnerable men with swords. Combined with the demon/ghost thing it's going to freak the taliban out big time. Plus, Minas Morgul has a wraith army of tens of thousands. They can make effective use of them as well. Even if AAA is effective you can use the lesser wraiths to cover for the
Nazgul.

Not when the area you advance though has three mines more mines then people. And by the same card, the Taliban would not see a problume with shooting those people to protect there fields.

And of course, first they have to figure out whats happening. There just as likely to think the blasts are mortars or grenades, not that they would know what those were.

You don't need to clear every mine, just the ones in your way. And not everyone of those mines is still working. They'll figure i out soon enough, the older orcs aren't as stupid as yourt basic grunt and there are humans and other creatures in Sauron's service that could figue it out.

[Sea Skimmer]

If all those siege weapons and such aimd at them over the years hasn't done the job I don't think we in the modern have got anything better.

Nine, invulnerable men with swords. Combined with the demon/ghost thing it's going to freak the taliban out big time. Plus, Minas Morgul has a wraith army of tens of thousands. They can make effective use of them as well. Even if AAA is effective you can use the lesser wraiths to cover for the
Nazgul.

Since moderate sized rocks failed, 1000-pound bombs, napalm and heavy artillery will as well? And we know there not invulnerable, not if speical swoards can be made to kill them. For all we know whats speical is that there made of a different type of steel, which happens to be used for bullet jackets.

Do the less Wraiths also require speical blades to kill? If normal weapons are effective, then there just more fodder.

You don't need to clear every mine, just the ones in your way. And not everyone of those mines is still working. They'll figure i out soon enough, the older orcs aren't as stupid as yourt basic grunt and there are humans and other creatures in Sauron's service that could figue it out.

Dispite never encountering anything like them, or even exploives period, they shouldb e able to devise a clearing Strategy. However that takes time, giving the defenders time to pound them from long range. If the field is under fire, Mordor is very screwed. The Northern Alliance had a lot of trouble getting through Talaban fields around several major cities, and they had artillery, aircraft and flail tanks to do it with.

As for mines not working, in a dry environment, they should be good for at least three decades. Indeed, the Egyptian Army recently launched a major campaign to aid the battlefield at El Alamein of mines, and has found that most still work, which forced them to stop using bulldozers to plow them up. And those mines were laid back in 1942.

[Stormbringer]

Since moderate sized rocks failed, 1000-pound bombs, napalm and heavy artillery will as well? And we know there not invulnerable, not if speical swoards can be made to kill them. For all we know whats speical is that there made of a different type of steel, which happens to be used for bullet jackets.

Yes. Ordinary weapons don't so much as touch them; it jut passes right through them. That's the point. Nothing in a modern arsenal would be any more effective. The swords required very powerful magic to even hurt them at all.

Do the less Wraiths also require speical blades to kill? If normal weapons are effective, then there just more fodder.

Yes. Special blades are required to kill them. The magic wouldn't have to be as strong as the power binding them is less. But the lesser wraith are the nazgul in minature.

Dispite never encountering anything like them, or even exploives period, they shouldb e able to devise a clearing Strategy. However that takes time, giving the defenders time to pound them from long range. If the field is under fire, Mordor is very screwed. The Northern Alliance had a lot of trouble getting through Talaban fields around several major cities, and they had artillery, aircraft and flail tanks to do it with.

As for mines not working, in a dry environment, they should be good for at least three decades. Indeed, the Egyptian Army recently launched a major campaign to aid the battlefield at El Alamein of mines, and has found that most still work, which forced them to stop using bulldozers to plow them up. And those mines were laid back in 1942.

It will take time to clear them for conventional troops. I don't doubt that or the fact that the majority will undoubtably work. But as I've said, they can use forces that mines won't touch to get through the worst fields.