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WASHINGTON, June 12, 2009 (LifeSiteNews.com) – The online ravings of the man who shot and killed a security guard in Washington’s Holocaust Memorial Museum on June 10th show that he does not fit the description of the “right wing” or “conservative Christian” extremist that has been portrayed in the liberal mainstream media since the shooting.

In one of many online tirades, the shooter, 88 year-old James von Brunn wrote, “Christianity and the Holocaust are hoaxes. ‘Christianity’ destroyed Roman Civilization. The ‘Holocaust’ Religion is destroying Western Civilization.” Between them, he said, they destroyed the “Aryan gene pool.”

He wrote, “socialism represents the future of the West.”

Before he was stopped, von Brunn, a white supremacist and neo-Nazi, killed Stephen T. Johns, a 39 year-old security officer at the museum. Von Brunn was well known to federal authorities for his long history of violence and extreme anti-Semitic views.

Von Brunn entered the Holocaust Memorial Museum on Washington’s National Mall carrying a .22-caliber rifle and shot Johns at close range. He is in critical condition after being shot by two other security officers and is facing charges of murder and weapons violations. The FBI is also investigating possible civil-rights and hate-crimes charges.

Von Brunn wrote that he believed Christianity is a cult created by St. Paul and proliferated by Jews. Christianity’s set of “dangerous, imbecilic, concepts, tenets, and teachings, often treasonous, destroyed the Roman Empire and drenched the soil of Europe with Aryan blood for almost 2000 years!”

Left-leaning news media in the US have pounced on the shooting, blaming it on the proliferation of “hate” and “divisiveness” brought about by the political and religious conservatism of the Bush administration. Pundits were quick to link the Holocaust Museum shooting with the killing of late-term abortionist George Tiller, as evidence of the kind of “right wing extremism” identified as a threat to national security in a government report in April by the Department of Homeland Security.

Michelle Kraus, in an editorial in the Huffington Post, wrote, “Hate is out of control in the post Bush years.”

“The Bush years,” Kraus wrote, “are the gift that keeps on giving. They were masters of the message deeply infiltrating the culture with seeds of fear and hate ... Every major issue facing this country has been tarnished by their polarizing messaging -- whether it is climate crisis legislation, nuclear proliferation, Mid East peace, stem cell research and treatment, women's reproductive rights, health care reform, or gay marriage.”

Martin Sieff wrote for UPI, “[Von Brunn’s] attack came not long after a doctor who performed late-term abortions was killed in Wichita, Kan., allegedly by a man with anti-abortion-rights beliefs ... It is ironic that the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security and Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano were all severely criticized recently for an internal report that listed right-wing extremism as a likely source of terrorist violence.”

But efforts by the left to paint Von Brunn as a “right wing extremist” ignore the evidence that the shooter was not a “conservative,” but a self-admitted “Aryan” socialist who hated Christianity and America’s conservative political class as well as the Jews. Ben Johnson, Managing Editor of FrontPage Magazine, noted von Brunn’s own internet rants against Christians and “neo-cons” as part of a vast Jewish conspiracy to undermine the white race.

Von Brunn’s confused racist fanaticism and conspiracy-laden views defy reasonable political classification, said Ben Smith, writing for the Politico website. Smith noted that after the shooting, two FBI agents had visited the offices of the Weekly Standard, a popular US conservative political magazine, and told staff the magazine’s address had been found on a piece of paper associated with von Brunn, and asked whether the Standard had received any threats.

Smith writes that von Brunn’s “white supremacist roots put him under the rubric of a ‘right-wing extremist,’ but the substance of his views ... are too far on the fringe to fit into conventional political classification.”

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I believe the point is that he's not a Nazi (who were, by the by, Socialists) but someone who was a deranged anti-semitic socialist who hated conservatives and liberals. The problem is that it's not a matter of where he fell on the political spectrum. He was deranged, crazy, etc. To say he was motivated by political beliefs is to imply reasonable motive, something he didn't have.

As a friend of mine said over the Binghamton shootings (more or less) people hunt for motive in cases like this because the idea that "He was crazy" is a deeply unsatisfying thought, and in many ways profoundly disturbing.
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Von Brunn wrote that he believed Christianity is a cult created by St. Paul and proliferated by Jews. Christianity’s set of “dangerous, imbecilic, concepts, tenets, and teachings, often treasonous, destroyed the Roman Empire and drenched the soil of Europe with Aryan blood for almost 2000 years!”
Isn't this exactly what Hitler believed? Honestly, this guy seems to have stolen everything that nut believed as his own. He hates Jews and everyone he could concievably associate with them. Since the conservatives support Isreal obviously they are his enemies.
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Von Brunn wrote that he believed Christianity is a cult created by St. Paul and proliferated by Jews. Christianity’s set of “dangerous, imbecilic, concepts, tenets, and teachings, often treasonous, destroyed the Roman Empire and drenched the soil of Europe with Aryan blood for almost 2000 years!”
Isn't this exactly what Hitler believed?
No, actually. Hitler was a rather staunch supporter of Christianity. Germano-centric Christianity, but Christianity all the same.
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Straha wrote:
Samuel wrote:
Von Brunn wrote that he believed Christianity is a cult created by St. Paul and proliferated by Jews. Christianity’s set of “dangerous, imbecilic, concepts, tenets, and teachings, often treasonous, destroyed the Roman Empire and drenched the soil of Europe with Aryan blood for almost 2000 years!”
Isn't this exactly what Hitler believed?
No, actually. Hitler was a rather staunch supporter of Christianity. Germano-centric Christianity, but Christianity all the same.
He complained that Saint Paul had corrupted it and that he was a Jew who took it away from Jesus. That looks exactly the same as this.
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Samuel wrote:
Von Brunn wrote that he believed Christianity is a cult created by St. Paul and proliferated by Jews. Christianity’s set of “dangerous, imbecilic, concepts, tenets, and teachings, often treasonous, destroyed the Roman Empire and drenched the soil of Europe with Aryan blood for almost 2000 years!”
Isn't this exactly what Hitler believed? Honestly, this guy seems to have stolen everything that nut believed as his own.
Hell they were both failed painters. Von Brunn seems to have been mirroring Hitler to the best of his limited ability.
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I can't help but notice that he undertook what he had to think would be a last blaze of glory in his 88th year. I haven't seen anyone in the media point out the symbolism yet, but it's just a little much for me to believe it a coincidence.
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Significance of 88th year being what exactly? Also, why is that he is simply crazy and not driven by any real motivations other than whatever horrors his mind conjures up so strange and hard to believe? Are people still so far in denial about mental illness that they would rather attribute something to political leanings/beliefs rather than a legitimate and at least somewhat understood medical problem? Maybe its just the fact that I and my family live with my suffering from Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (a mild and treatable mental illness compared to say schitzophrenia), and were forced to come to grips that mental illness is a very real thing and is serious as any "physical" disease. I seem to recall some people here having trouble accepting the whole concept of actual insanity with that guy who killed and ate some of a person on a train or something a few months back.

Regardless, the guy sure sounds crazy and hate filled, and it's certainly in character for the conservotards to try and turn a horrible event into ideological mudslinging.
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Wing Commander MAD wrote:Significance of 88th year being what exactly?
88 is a number commonly associated with Neo-Nazis. I think it's a bit of a stretch, though, to say that he would specifically wait until he was that old simply to invoke white supremicist symbols in such a roundabout way that a vast majority of people would not notice.
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This isn't terribly relevant, but given that he's 88, is he actually a neo-nazi, and not a real Nazi from back in the day? He would have been 18 in 1939. Has any source elaborated on this?
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Seggybop wrote:This isn't terribly relevant, but given that he's 88, is he actually a neo-nazi, and not a real Nazi from back in the day? He would have been 18 in 1939. Has any source elaborated on this?

Yes, actually. He fought in World War II. For the U.S. So, no. He's not an actual Nazi.
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Wing Commander MAD wrote:Significance of 88th year being what exactly?

Specifically, H is the 8th letter of the alphabet, which 88 would then become HH, or Heil Hitler.
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It's hard to believe anyone could honestly blame the JEWS for Christianity considering the sheer enmity and discord they had over the founding of the new religion through Jesus. It's ridiculous unless you of course blame all jews for the actions of ANY jew. But I guess that's what bigotry is all about isn't it...

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I'm still going with the "crazy old man" theory myself.
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Straha wrote:
Seggybop wrote:This isn't terribly relevant, but given that he's 88, is he actually a neo-nazi, and not a real Nazi from back in the day? He would have been 18 in 1939. Has any source elaborated on this?

Yes, actually. He fought in World War II. For the U.S. So, no. He's not an actual Nazi.
An article in the other thread indicated his having said that he fought on the wrong side in that war. Take that as you will.
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Its entirely possible he (or his parents) identified with/supported the American Nazi party. There was a good measure of friendly relations between America prior to 1940.
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