South Carolina's Governor Sanford Admits Extramarital Affair

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CQ TODAY ONLINE NEWS

June 24, 2009 – 4:03 p.m.

CQ Transcript: Gov. Mark Sanford Admits Extramarital Affair

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SPEAKER: GOV. MARK SANFORD, R-S.C.

[*] SANFORD: I won’t begin in any particular spot. Let me just start with -- I -- I don’t see -- where’s Gina Smith?

(UNKNOWN): She’s not here.

SANFORD: Not here? OK. I had a conversation with Gina Smith this morning, when I arrived in Atlanta, and I told her about my love for the Appalachian Trail (ph). I used to organize hiking trips, actually, when I was in high school.

I would get a soccer coach or football coach to act as chaperon and then I’d get folks to pay me 60 bucks each, or whatever it was, to take the trip, and then off we’d go and have these great adventures on the Appalachian Trail (ph).

And I told her of adventure trips both in college. I was a campus representative for the Eastern Airlines and could fly free, which meant I’d fly different places around the world, get myself a job, carry $100 of emergency money and either find a job there with the locals and come back or come on home.

I told her about my years in Congress and early years in the governorship, of different adventure of leaving and traveling different places.

Because what I have found, in this job, is that one desperately needs a break from the bubble, wherein every word, every moment is recorded -- just to completely break. And I’ve found that to be true in trips to the farm or in trips other places further afield. And all of those things were true.

I talked about the profound frustrations that I’ve felt over this last legislative session, in the battle that was in place with regard to the stimulus package, the $700 million in play, and how, at an emotional level, I found it exhausting.

I tried to make as good a stand as I could -- not for a further political office. What was interesting, it was always viewed, are you doing this to climb some further political office?

It was always based on that idea that I genuinely believe that that action would be bad for the taxpayers, and made the stand as I did.

So all those things we talked about this morning were true, but they’re not the whole story. And that’s obviously why everybody’s gathered here right now.

And so let me lay out that larger story that has attracted so many of you all here. I’m a bottom-line kind of -- kind of guy. I lay it out. It’s going to hurt, and we’ll let the chips fall where they may.

In so doing, let me first of all apologize to my wife Jenny and our four great boys, Marshall, Landon, Bolton, and Blake, for letting them down.

One of the primary roles, well before being a governor, is being a father to those four boys who are absolute jewels and blessings that I’ve let down in a profound way. And I apologize to them.

And I don’t like apologizing in this realm, but, given the immediacy of you all’s wanting to visit and my proximity to them, this is the first step in what will be a very long process on that front.

I would secondly say to Jenny, anybody who has observed her over the last 20 years of my life knows how closely she has stood by my side, in campaign after campaign after campaign and literally being my campaign manager, and in raising those four boys and in a whole host of other things throughout the lives that we’ve built together.

I would also like to apologize to my staff because, as much as I did talk about going to the Appalachian Trail (ph) -- that was one of the original scenarios that I’d thrown out to Mary Neil (ph) -- that isn’t where I ended up.

And so I let them down by created a fiction with record to where I was going, which means that I had then in turn, given as much they relied on that information, let down people that I represent across this state. And so I want to apologize to my staff and I want to apologize to anybody who lives in South Carolina for the way that I let them down on that front.

I -- I want to apologize to good friends. Tom Davis came over to the house. He drove up from Beaufort. And he has been an incredibly dear friend for a very long time.

In my first race for governor, he moved up and he lived in the basement of our house for six months, and we called it Jurassic Park because it was the kids’ dinosaur sheets and all kinds of different folks were living there in the campaign.

And he gave of his time and his talent and his effort for ideas that he believed in, to try and make a difference in those ideas. And so I, in a very profound way, have let down the Tom Davises of the world.

On the ride over here, I called the house, and in the background, I could hear my parents-in-laws, who had come up to be with Jenny, and I’ve let them down.

I had the most, you know, surreal of conversations a number of weeks ago with my father-in-law, laying some cards on the table.

SANFORD: And he was incredibly gentlemanly, as you cannot imagine, in saying here were some things that I was struggling with with regard to where my heart was, where I was in life -- those different kinds of things.

And I let him down. I’ve let down a lot of people. That’s the bottom line. And I let them down, and in every instance I would ask their forgiveness. Forgiveness is not an immediate process. It is in fact a process that takes time, and I’ll be in that process for quite some weeks and months and I suspect years ahead.

But I am -- I am here because if you were to look at God’s laws, there are in every instance designed to protect people from themselves. I think that that is the bottom line with God’s law -- that it’s not a moral, rigid list of dos and don’ts just for the heck of dos and don’ts. It is indeed to protect us from ourselves. And the biggest self of self is, indeed, self. That sin is in fact grounded in this notion of what is it that I want, as opposed to somebody else.

And in this regard, let me throw one more apology out there, and that is to people of faith across South Carolina, or for that matter, across the nation, because I think that one of the big disappointments when, believe it or not, I’ve been a person of faith all my life, if somebody falls within the -- the fellowship of believers or the walk of faith, I think it makes it that much harder for believers to say, “Well, where was that person coming from?” Or folks that weren’t believers to say, “Where, indeed, was that person coming from?” So one more apology in there.

But I -- I guess where I’m trying to go with this is that there are moral absolutes, and that God’s law indeed is there to protect you from yourself. And there are consequences if you breach that. This press conference is a consequence.

And so the bottom line is this, I -- I’ve been unfaithful to my wife. I developed a relationship with a -- which started out as a dear, dear friend from Argentina. It began very innocently, as I suspect many of these things do, in just a casual e-mail back and forth, in advice on one’s life there and advice here.

But here recently over this last year it developed into something much more than that. And as a consequence, I hurt her. I hurt you all. I hurt my wife. I hurt my boys. I hurt friends like Tom Davis. I hurt a lot of different folks. And all I can say is that I apologize. I -- I -- I would ask for your -- I guess I’m not deserving of indulgence, but indulgence not for me, but for Jenny and the boys. You know, there are a team of cameras and crews and all those sorts of things camped out down at Sullivan’s Island. And I would just ask for a zone of privacy, if not for me, for her and the boys.

As we go through this process of working through this, there are going to be some hard decisions to be made, to be dealt with. And those are probably not best dealt with through the prism of television cameras and media headlines.

You know, I am committed to that process of -- of walking through with Jenny and the boys, with the Tom Davises of the world, with the people of South Carolina in -- in saying “where do we go from here?”

SANFORD: I -- I would simply say I go back to that simple word of asking for forgiveness. I -- just as a declarative statement, one more before we open up for a couple of questions, and then I’ll move on.

I’ve tried to think of, you know, first steps -- one of the first steps is clearing out more time as we go through this process of -- of reconciliation and figuring out what comes next. I’m going to resign as chairman of the Republican Governors Association. I’m going to tender my resignation.

One, because I think it’s the appropriate thing to do, given other governors across this nation and my role as chairman of the RGA. And two, frankly, just from the standpoint of time. You know, if I think about this process, not only does it begin at the family level, but it begins with the family of South Carolinians. And so that means me going one by one and town by town to talk to a lot of old friends across this state in -- in what I’ve done and -- and me asking for their forgiveness. That will take time -- time that I probably can’t devote to the RGA.

Questions?

QUESTION: Governor, what happens next (inaudible)?

(CROSSTALK)

QUESTION: Are you separated? (inaudible) separated?

SANFORD: What’s that?

QUESTION: Are you separated from the first lady?

SANFORD: I -- I don’t know how you want to define that. I mean, I’m here and she’s there. I guess in a formal sense we’re not, but you know, what we’re -- what we’re trying to do is work through something that, you know, we’ve been working through for a number of months now.

QUESTION: Did your wife and your family know about the affair before the trip to Argentina?

SANFORD: Yes. We -- we -- we’ve been -- we’ve been working through this thing for about the last five months. I’ve been to a lot of different -- as part of what we called “C Street” when I was in Washington. It was a, believe it or not, a Christian bible study -- some folks that asked members of Congress hard questions that I think were very, very important.

And I’ve been working with them. I see Cubby Culbertson in the back of the room. I would consider him a spiritual giant. And...

QUESTION: (inaudible)

(CROSSTALK)

SANFORD: ... and an incredibly dear friend. And he has been helping us work through this over these last five months.

And Colby (ph), I want to say thank you for being there as a friend.

QUESTION: (inaudible)

(CROSSTALK)

QUESTION: (inaudible) first and only time you’ve been unfaithful?

SANFORD: What’s that?

QUESTION: Is this the first and only time you’ve been unfaithful?

SANFORD: Yes. Yes.

(CROSSTALK)

QUESTION: Did you break off the relationship?

SANFORD: Obviously not.

What’s that?

QUESTION: Were you alone?

SANFORD: Obviously not.

QUESTION: Did you break off the relationship?

SANFORD: The -- no, it was interesting in how this thing has gone down, John. I think (inaudible) way more detail than you’ll ever want.

I met this person a little over eight years ago. Again, very innocently. And struck up a conversation, and I want to go back to the bubble of politics. This is not justifying, because again what I did was wrong, period, end of story.

QUESTION: (inaudible)

(CROSSTALK)

SANFORD: OK, wait -- wait -- wait -- wait. No, I didn’t. It was my own ticket.

(CROSSTALK)

Wait -- wait -- guys -- one question at a time. Is that fair enough?

The -- and -- and there’s a certain irony to this. This person at the time was separated, and we ended up in this incredibly serious conversation about why she ought to get back with her husband for the sake of her two boys; that not only was it part of God’s law, but ultimately those two boys would be better off for it.

And we had this incredibly earnest conversation and at the end of it, I said, “Could I get your e-mail?” We swapped e-mails, whatever. And it began just on a very casual basis -- “Hey, I’ve got this issue that’s come up with my life,” or vice versa, “What do you think?” Because when you live in the zone of politics, you can’t ever let your guard down. You can’t ever say, “what do you think” or “what do you think,” because it could be a front page story or this story or that story.

And so there was this zone of protectiveness, and she -- she lives thousands of miles away and I was up here and you could throw an idea out or vice versa. And we developed a remarkable friendship over those eight years. And then, as I said, about a year ago, it sparked into something more than that.

I have seen her three times since then, during that whole sparking thing. And it was discovered...

QUESTION: (inaudible)

SANFORD: ... let me finish -- five months ago. And at that point, we went into serious overdrive in trying to say “where do you go from here,” and that’s where the Cubby Culbertsons and the others of the world began to help with, you know, how do you get all this right? How do you -- again -- be honest?

SANFORD: And so, it had been back and forth and back and forth and back and forth. And the one thing that you really find is that you absolutely want resolution.

And so, oddly enough, I spent the last five days, and I was crying in Argentina so I could repeat it when I came back here, in saying, you know, while, indeed, from a heart level, there was something real. It was a place based on the fiduciary relationship I had to the people of South Carolina, based on my boys, based on my wife, based on where I was in life, based on where she was in life, and places I couldn’t go and she couldn’t go.

And that is a, I suspect, a continual process, all through life, of getting one’s heart right in life.

And so, I would never stand before you as one who just says, “Yo, I’m completely right with regard to my heard on all things.” But what I would say is I’m committed to trying to get my heart right, because the one thing that Cubby and all the others have told me, is that the odyssey that we’re all on in life is with regard to heart. Not what I want or what you want, but, in other words, indeed, this larger notion of truly trying to put other people first.

And I suspect, if I’d really put this other person first, I wouldn’t have jeopardized her life, as I have. I certainly wouldn’t have done it to my wife. I wouldn’t have done it to my boys. I wouldn’t have done it to the Tom Davis’ of the world. This was selfishness on my part. And for that, I’m most apologetic.

(CROSSTALK)

QUESTION: Did you make the choice to go down there for Father’s Day...

SANFORD: Wait, wait, wait.

Last question over there.

QUESTION: (OFF-MIKE)

SANFORD: Yes.

QUESTION: Did you intentionally mislead your staff about hiking the trail? Did you intentionally mislead your staff about where you were?

SANFORD: In other words, did -- they called. I called them back on Monday. And -- and -- and...

QUESTION: But, when you left, did you intentionally...

SANFORD: No, no, no. We talked about that. In other words, let me be clear: I said that was an original possibility. Again, that is my fault in -- you know, you’re shrouding this larger trip. That’s my fault.

QUESTION: (OFF-MIKE) on the staff to tell the press that you were hiking the Appalachian Trail?

SANFORD: I didn’t tell them. I just said, “Hey, guys, this is where I think I’m going to go.” So -- in other words, they would have deducted from that.

QUESTION: (inaudible) Argentina, and you obviously had talked -- did you tell Joel Sawyer to...

SANFORD: No, no, no. I didn’t -- I didn’t -- no, no. They went on the original information that I’d given Mary Neil (ph) who handles the schedule for us.

Last question.

(CROSSTALK)

I tell you what...

(CROSSTALK)

QUESTION: On Father’s Day weekend...

(CROSSTALK)

QUESTION: Were you asking the state employees to cover up this affair for you?

SANFORD: No. Absolutely not.

(CROSSTALK)

QUESTION: Your reaction to those in your party and your lieutenant governor that had called this irresponsible and are disappointed in your decision to do this?

SANFORD: At this point, it would be obvious that they and others would be disappointed and that I’ve disappointed them.

QUESTION: Will you resign as governor?

Joel, is the governor going to resign?

STAFF: Thank you.

END

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Jun 24, 2009 15:45 ET .EOF
Source: CQ Transcriptions

Here is the press conference video.

[The Yosemite Bear]

snort,

these people just become more and more predictable.

[Patrick Degan]

I will say that this whole affair made for some very entertaining moments listening to NPR on the drive back to my office for the evening shift.

[FSTargetDrone]

A few things...

But I am -- I am here because if you were to look at God’s laws, there are in every instance designed to protect people from themselves. I think that that is the bottom line with God’s law -- that it’s not a moral, rigid list of dos and don’ts just for the heck of dos and don’ts. It is indeed to protect us from ourselves. And the biggest self of self is, indeed, self. That sin is in fact grounded in this notion of what is it that I want, as opposed to somebody else.

And in this regard, let me throw one more apology out there, and that is to people of faith across South Carolina, or for that matter, across the nation, because I think that one of the big disappointments when, believe it or not, I’ve been a person of faith all my life, if somebody falls within the -- the fellowship of believers or the walk of faith, I think it makes it that much harder for believers to say, “Well, where was that person coming from?” Or folks that weren’t believers to say, “Where, indeed, was that person coming from?” So one more apology in there.

But I -- I guess where I’m trying to go with this is that there are moral absolutes, and that God’s law indeed is there to protect you from yourself. And there are consequences if you breach that. This press conference is a consequence.

As soon as I heard the above, with the triple hit of "God's Laws," I have to admit that I was sure he was going to describe it as a gay affair.

And so the bottom line is this, I -- I’ve been unfaithful to my wife. I developed a relationship with a -- which started out as a dear, dear friend from Argentina. It began very innocently, as I suspect many of these things do, in just a casual e-mail back and forth, in advice on one’s life there and advice here.

Then I was really sure. With all the hemming and hawing and such, I was expecting it.

But here recently over this last year it developed into something much more than that. And as a consequence, I hurt her.

Then I was certain, because I thought "her" was referring to his wife.

I hurt you all. I hurt my wife. I hurt my boys. I hurt friends like Tom Davis. I hurt a lot of different folks. And all I can say is that I apologize. I -- I -- I would ask for your -- I guess I’m not deserving of indulgence, but indulgence not for me, but for Jenny and the boys. You know, there are a team of cameras and crews and all those sorts of things camped out down at Sullivan’s Island. And I would just ask for a zone of privacy, if not for me, for her and the boys.

Then I was just stupefied that he mentioned hurting the wife after the mistress (especially because the mistress was apparently separated from her own partner). He sure did talk about the mistress a lot. At first, I assumed that the Argentine woman knew Sanford had a family and wasn't an innocent participant. But then I thought, maybe not. And then that became obvious that she did when he talks about his family in that one e-mail to her.

The guy is just really slimy.

[KroLazuxy_87]

Jenny Sanford released a lengthy statement late Wednesday making clear she had learned of her husband's infidelity before his recent secret trip to Buenos Aires. His whereabouts were a mystery for six days, leaving his family in the dark and creating a power vacuum and considerable confusion in the Capitol, with aides telling reporters he was hiking on the Appalachian Trail.

"When I found out about my husband's infidelity I worked immediately to first seek reconciliation through forgiveness, and then to work diligently to repair our marriage," she wrote. "We reached a point where I felt it was important to look my sons in the eyes and maintain my dignity, self-respect, and my basic sense of right and wrong. I therefore asked my husband to leave two weeks ago.

"This trial separation was agreed to with the goal of ultimately strengthening our marriage. During this short separation it was agreed that Mark would not contact us. I kept this separation quiet out of respect of his public office and reputation, and in hopes of keeping our children from just this type of public exposure."

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/06/25/ ... index.html

The story has seemingly run it's course: now they're profiling the wife.


Now with Michael Jackson's death?(still disputed at time of writing) this story is gonna just disappear.

Put Sanford down as the person happiest that Michael Jackson died.

[Knife]

I doubt it. They'll going to want to investigate to see if he used public money to see his South American honey, or anything of the sort. This story isn't done yet.

[Questor]

I doubt it. They'll going to want to investigate to see if he used public money to see his South American honey, or anything of the sort. This story isn't done yet.

They said on the radio today that he had. He was going to reimburse the state for the cost of one of his three trips to Argentina.

[Questor]

And here is the source

[Crossroads Inc.]

Yeah, with Jackson dead im guessing this news story has run its curse as is destained to die out. Which is a shame since i hope that America once more remmembers that its mostly Republicans who are the sleazeballs.

[Patrick Degan]

On NPR today, the hilarity continued: Sanford stated in public that he hoped to make himself "fall back in love with his wife" but also that while he does hope to rebuild his marriage, his Argentine chica is his "soulmate". Oh, he also rejects the notion of resigning, saying that it would send the wrong message to his four sons —that you make a mistake and quit for it and that's it, no chance at redemption, or something to that effect. I'll admit I was laughing too hard at that point to fully retain the verbatim quote.

Meanwhile, legislators of both parties are calling for Sanford to resign —an increasing number of Republicans among that chorus— and I think one legislator is beginning an initial inquiry about whether or not state funds were impropery used to finance Sanford's trysts.

Sanford's about to get thrown under the bus, whether he likes it or not and whether he likes what "message" it will deliver to his four sons or not.

[The Duchess of Zeon]

Duh, dude, go fly to Argentina and buy a ranch to live in with your soulmate before you lose all of your money to legal fees you dumb idiot. You'll be in good company, promise!

[Pelranius]

Given Sanford's limitless stupidity and lack of tact, he's bound to do something that will get him back into the headlines once the Jackson hubub goes away. Anyways, it's also a golden opportunity for his political rivals. Now an adulterous affair (to say nothing of coming from the family values Republican crowd) is standard issue, but deserting his office and going to another country on the other side of the world is in a league of its own, so far.

[The Yosemite Bear]

is it bad taste that the google ad has the invention that Thomas Jefferson used to hide his underaged slave fucking as the "featured item"?

[UCBooties]

is it bad taste that the google ad has the invention that Thomas Jefferson used to hide his underaged slave fucking as the "featured item"?

The ads are different every time, what are you referring to?

[FSTargetDrone]

On NPR today, the hilarity continued: Sanford stated in public that he hoped to make himself "fall back in love with his wife" but also that while he does hope to rebuild his marriage, his Argentine chica is his "soulmate". Oh, he also rejects the notion of resigning, saying that it would send the wrong message to his four sons —that you make a mistake and quit for it and that's it, no chance at redemption, or something to that effect. I'll admit I was laughing too hard at that point to fully retain the verbatim quote.

He may say he's trying to "fall back in love with his wife" but now he has (astonishingly) provided details of his behavior with even other women (and just for fun, this is from Fox News):

What Is He Thinking? Sanford Violates All Rules of Sex Scandal Management

South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford's latest soul baring has led political consultants and observers to scratch their heads and wonder what in the heck the two-term Republican governor is trying to accomplish.

By Judson Berger

FOXNews.com

Wednesday, July 01, 2009

If there's a manual for politicians on how to survive a sex scandal, South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford has spit on it, torched it and spread the ashes somewhere along the coast of Myrtle Beach

In straying from the confess-and-take-cover approach of other wayward politicians, Sanford not only conducted a rambling and lengthy press conference last week explaining his torrid extramarital affair with an Argentinian beauty -- complete with hard-hitting questions from reporters -- but he granted days' worth of soul-baring interviews to The Associated Press.

In them, he confessed he "crossed lines" with other women besides his paramour, Maria Belen Chapur. He acknowledged he met up with Chapur more times than he originally said, and declared that the woman at the heart of the scandal is his "soul mate" -- but he would try to save his marriage anyway.

"Painful," is how Democratic consultant Chris Kofinis described the AP interviews.

Sanford's behavior has led political consultants and observers to scratch their heads and wonder what in the heck the two-term Republican governor is trying to accomplish.

Kofinis, who knows a thing or two about political sex scandals -- he's a former adviser to John Edwards -- is among those perplexed by Sanford's behavior.

"It's a strange strategy, to say the least," he told FOXNews.com.

Kofinis said it looks like Sanford is trying to salvage his career more than his marriage, by trying to appear honest and at the same time reveal so many details that the prying press doesn't have any more muck to rake.

"That may be the biggest problem with his approach," Kofinis said. "From a crisis management perspective he has to accept the fact that his political career is over, and that if he wants to salvage his personal, and maybe his professional, life in the long-term, the best thing he can do is resign and resign quickly."

But if honesty was his intent, Sanford muddied the waters Wednesday, saying he would not release financial records he earlier pledged to offer up to show how his trips to meet his lover were paid. Spokesman Joel Sawyer explained to the AP that the governor does not want to discuss personal matters in the media anymore.

The calls for Sanford's resignation have mounted rapidly in the past few days, particularly after the AP interviews, which were conducted over the course of three hours -- a stunning amount of time for a besieged public official to devote to the press.

A slew of state Republicans -- 14 out of 27 in the state Senate -- and at least six newspapers have called for Sanford to step down.

The South Carolina Democratic Party did the same on Wednesday. State Democratic Party Chairwoman Carol Fowler cited his "stream of confessions," saying it has distracted lawmakers from state business.

Given the backlash, it doesn't look like Sanford has done himself any favors.

South Carolina Republican Sen. Jim DeMint told FOX News that Sanford's post-confession strategy was "not a wise thing to do in this business."

"They say, when you are explaining, you are losing. And particularly on that subject, I think, he was," DeMint said, suggesting that he and other Republicans are urging Sanford to step aside.

"I'm concerned of whether or not he is in a position that he can continue to lead the state. And a number of us are talking to him quietly, and hopefully it will be resolved. But I have my concerns to whether or not he can continue," he said.

In every statement he gives, Sanford insists he wants to finish out his final term, despite appearing as if he's hell-bent on self destruction.

Meanwhile, he told The Associated Press he doesn't want to "blow up my time in politics" or his personal life, but that he's got "real" feelings in the way.

FOXNews.com Sexpert Yvonne Fulbright agreed with Kofinis that the governor is trying to value his political career over his personal life. And she said his personal life is only suffering further as a result of his behavior over the past week.

Fulbright said the problem for the shaken bond between Mark and Jenny Sanford is that the governor keeps talking about a strong emotional attachment to his mistress. She said studies have shown women find affairs more forgivable if they're done for sexual gratification -- they're less willing to forgive when the mistress is the husband's professed "soul mate." She gave the Sanford marriage about a 30 percent shot at surviving -- and only with intensive counseling.

"Usually the first step is letting people know the wife is the preferred partner," she said.

But no one's calling Sanford conventional.

"I don't remember any political figure or public figure reacting in this way," said Robert Oldendick, political science professor at the University of South Carolina.

He said Sanford is probably trying to wave reporters off the story of his affair by revealing as much detail as possible. But he said Sanford's revelations are just too damaging.

"With each piece of information that comes out, it just gets a little bit worse and a little bit worse, and that scale starts to tip," he said. "There's straws that keep getting added to the camel's back here."

[Vendetta]

Given Sanford's limitless stupidity and lack of tact, he's bound to do something that will get him back into the headlines once the Jackson hubub goes away. Anyways, it's also a golden opportunity for his political rivals. Now an adulterous affair (to say nothing of coming from the family values Republican crowd) is standard issue, but deserting his office and going to another country on the other side of the world is in a league of its own, so far.

The crowning thing now would be for him to admit to having committed adultery in his home state of South Carolina.

Which is illegal, and carries up to six months in prison.

Mark Sanford signed that into law, by the way.

[The Yosemite Bear]

is it bad taste that the google ad has the invention that Thomas Jefferson used to hide his underaged slave fucking as the "featured item"?

The ads are different every time, what are you referring to?

The wall mounted hideaway bed of course.

[KroLazuxy_87]

I just can't get enough of this wacko... After Jackson died all he had to do was shut up, but he gave another interview and all this crap keeps going.

It reminds me of the how the Congressman(can't remember his name) was being investigated over the suspicious disappearance of his secretary, then September 11th, 2001 rolled around and he was off the front page. He kept his damned mouth shut and I have no idea how that turned out.

If Sanford had been in that position I'd have expected him to come out on the thirteenth and tearfully announce he was in love with his secretary, even though he'd never crossed "That ultimate line..."

[Pelranius]

Gary Condit and his intern was Chandra Levy. He sort of dropped off the national media radar but lost his primary bid for reelection, IIRC.

[Simon_Jester]

Eight years later, they accused a Salvadorean illegal immigrant of the murder. Don't know how good the evidence is.

Condit himself was never actually accused, but there was so much suspicion it gutted his career.

[Pelranius]

I thought the reason his career went down the tube was because of misleading if not outright lying statements that he made during the investigation into Ms. Levy's disappearance.

[The Yosemite Bear]

oooh, The FBI has confirmed that there's something else to take the heat off of the Govenor. South Carolina is confirmed to have an operating serial killer on the loose. (unless that's REALLY what the Gov's been up too, which means that all my Ted Bundy / Gacy jokes are in really bad taste....)
Daily Record UK

Hunt for serial killer launched after five people killed in US town in just six days
Jul 6 2009

A SMALL town has been gripped in terror after a serial killer struck five times in six days.

And residents of Gaffney, South Carolina, have armed themselves with guns for their own protection.

The town has witnessed three separate attacks.

The latest victims were found in their furniture and appliance shop on Thursday.

Stephen Tyler, 45, was killed, along with his 15-year-old daughter Abby, who fought for her life for two days in hospital before dying on Saturday.

Tyler's wife, his older daughter and an employee found them, county coroner Dennis Fowler said.

The killing happened seven miles from where family members found the bodies of 83-year-old Hazel Linder and her 50-year-old daughter Gena Linder Parker a day earlier. The were bound and shot in Hazel's home.

The killing spree began the previous Saturday about 10 miles from the Tylers' shop. Peach farmer Kline Cash, 63,was found shot in his home.

Investigators have not established if the victims are linked or if they knew the killer.

So far, all they have is a sketch of a suspect and a possible getaway vehicle.

Sheriff Bill Blanton said: "Yes, we have a serial killer but there's no evidence of a hitlist.

"There's no evidence he knows the victims. There's no evidence the victims are connected."

[Darth Wong]

The crowning thing now would be for him to admit to having committed adultery in his home state of South Carolina.

Which is illegal, and carries up to six months in prison.

Mark Sanford signed that into law, by the way.

What the hell kind of brain-damaged Bible thumping population actually approves of making it such a harsh criminal offense to commit adultery? Just how fundie is SC anyway?

[CaptainChewbacca]

The crowning thing now would be for him to admit to having committed adultery in his home state of South Carolina.

Which is illegal, and carries up to six months in prison.

Mark Sanford signed that into law, by the way.

What the hell kind of brain-damaged Bible thumping population actually approves of making it such a harsh criminal offense to commit adultery? Just how fundie is SC anyway?

South Carolina decided to seceede from the union... TWICE. They founded confederate culture.

[CarsonPalmer]

What the hell kind of brain-damaged Bible thumping population actually approves of making it such a harsh criminal offense to commit adultery? Just how fundie is SC anyway?

I went into a book store in South Carolina on vacation last summer, and the best-seller table had on it, next to each other: Jerome Corsi's hatchet job on Barack Obama, and a book entitled The South Was Right, which claims to dispel all the myths of the Civil War. Every other book, with the exception of one on college football, was either religious, hyper-conservative or pro-Confederate. A few years ago, they still flew the Confederate flag over their statehouse, and it was a huge issue to make them take it down. The place is damn crazy; a lot of them, I think, still think that its 1860.