Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Spoiler ahoy!)

[Oskuro]

Saw it last night. It was entertaining, but felt disjointed, specially compared to the first one, which felt a lot tighter both in plot and structure, even with the hacking side-plot annoyance.

There really isn't much to say that hasn't been said already, except for the one thing that got me to cringe and I can't get over: Devastator's Iron BALLS. Were those really necessary?

[SAMAS]

Actually, they're cooler, IMO, than if they combined. And Word Of God says she/they died? Bah. I'm choosing to ignore that. OK, she took a shot to the face in the final battle, but so did plenty of the Transformers. In the absence of actual dismemberment, I'm choosing to believe she survived (and possibly ended up as Mikaela's bike, but that's not really important).

TF Wiki says there's a good chance Arcee and "Moonracer"(let's go with that for now) both survived.

There really isn't much to say that hasn't been said already, except for the one thing that got me to cringe and I can't get over: Devastator's Iron BALLS. Were those really necessary?

No, but they were funny as hell. The whole theater cracked up on that one.

[Darth Tanner]

If you remember back to the first movie it was clearly explained that in that universe all of earths integrated circuit technology was reverse engineered from studying Megatron. Thus they all obviously turn into Decepticons when you give them sentience, because all of their components were based on Decepticon derived technology to begin with.

What? Its a robot civil war, Megatron uses the same technology Optimus does. Also how the hell does say a toaster that may have been designed using technology inspired through the analysis of a captured frozen robot result in that machine knowing its an evil decepticon and that it should go after that kid with the shard.

Even though the thought of them covering up a fight between an artic and a huge unicycle in the middle of Shangai is ridiculous.

Hey atleast it was at night and they had evacuated the immediate area with a gas leak story. In the last film they covered up a running battle on a major highway and through a major city.

I have to admit I did laugh when I saw the US military being deployed in China, yey for the token Brit and Canadians too.

[Shroom Man 777]

I found the fembot Alice to be really hot. Even with the nasty tongue action.

[The Grim Squeaker]

I found the fembot Alice to be really hot. Even with the nasty tongue action.

She and Megan Fox didn't live up to their hotness potential (motorbike scene aside). Too much airbrushing, tanning and eyebrow maskara.

I enjoyed parts of the movie. The good scenes were awesome (everything with Optimus Prime, Jetfire and even latter Bumblebee scenes), but there was a lot of crap (the final fight just dragged on and on and on, when it should have ended in half the time. It was fucking boring, and that's ignoring the endless scenes of "slow motion jiggle walk"), most of which has already been mentioned, and which should have been shortened too.

Also, whatever happened to the Autobots and the Decepticons being evenly matched/two sides in the equal civil war? It's more like "The dozens of Decepticons, the Cybertronian space military, the unborn robot armada and the ancient fallen vs a dozen autobots in total".

[andrewgpaul]

I have to admit I did laugh when I saw the US military being deployed in China, yey for the token Brit and Canadians too.

I missed the token Canuck - he must have had an even smaller part than the Brits - did he even get to scream before he got blown up?

[Darth Tanner]

did he even get to scream before he got blown up?

LOL worse than that, he's already in a coffin with the Canadian flag draped over when we see him. Us Brits had actual lines! And from a guy who apparently survived the film. Brought a tear to my eye.

[Oskuro]

Is it me, or do the Transformers in this movie feel weaker? In the first movie it took a bit of punishment (Brawl, Blackout, Scorponok) to bring them down, yet on this movie they are squished easily. And what's with all that fluid? From Starscream's drooling to all the glowy bleeding when shot, they felt more like meatbags than Robots (unlike the first movie, where Optimus could take a full blast from Megatron, and it only scorched his armor plates).

On TF1 they make mention of the Transformers having energy shielding (When they are reviewing the images from Blackout in the desert), wich could explain why they are so resilient to projectiles and have to use hand-to-hand combat. Apparently that notion has been farted out of existance.

[NeoGoomba]

I thought they played the Megatron/Starscream relationship very well. And as almost everyone has mentioned, the scenes with Optimus Prime were supremely badass. His rescue of Sam and the battle in the forest were everything I hoped this movie would be. I wonder if Peter Cullen has some magic aura that not even Michael Bay can fuck up. Unfortunately, he was only in the movie for about 20 minutes, which made the two hours and change remaining painful.

The rest of the movie was so terrible, I think it gave me cancer.

[neoolong]

Is it me, or do the Transformers in this movie feel weaker? In the first movie it took a bit of punishment (Brawl, Blackout, Scorponok) to bring them down, yet on this movie they are squished easily. And what's with all that fluid? From Starscream's drooling to all the glowy bleeding when shot, they felt more like meatbags than Robots (unlike the first movie, where Optimus could take a full blast from Megatron, and it only scorched his armor plates).

Well, in terms of human on transformer combat, they know the weak spots and most effective weapons now so would have an easier time of it than in the first movie.

The fluid was odd as hell. The glowy bleeding was in the first movie with Blackout, but it was toned up a heck of a lot more for this movie.

[Ford Prefect]

Is it me, or do the Transformers in this movie feel weaker?

One of the mook Decepticons actually takes a hit from an M1 in the final battle, from memory in the face, and takes basically cosmetic damage and falls over. It's probably dead, but its hugely impressive, given that it doesn't end up with a huge glowy hole through it or its head coming off. Megatron takes a hit from and M1 and it knocks him around a little - he takes more damage from one of Optimus' guns earlier in the film. This is actually an improvement fromt he first movie, where Devastator actually gets glowing chunks taken out of him by magical super hot SABOT rounds fired from grenade launchers.

[Old Plympto]

Us Brits had actual lines! And from a guy who apparently survived the film. Brought a tear to my eye.

Wasn't he the sniper merc from Rambo? Looks like him. Off to IMDb!

[neoolong]

Yes, it was him. Way too underutilized. He could at least have gotten to snipe a decepticon considering that Lennox does order the snipers to do stuff.

[Vympel]

$363 million world wide, in five days

Viewership by female demographic up from 40% for the first movie to 46% for this one.

[Shroom Man 777]

I mean, shit, logically and objectively the movie could be construed to be a creative atrocity but subjectively and deep down in my fleshling pee-pee I thought it was the most goddamn awesomest thing on this planet.

I can agree with everything Ebert says, but man what a load of great fun!

The best thing ever since sliced whores!

[SylasGaunt]

Is it me, or do the Transformers in this movie feel weaker? In the first movie it took a bit of punishment (Brawl, Blackout, Scorponok) to bring them down, yet on this movie they are squished easily.

Well in this instance we had decepticon mooks who are of course much more expendable than the ones with names. They're also being subjected to a lot more firepower this time and are being drawn into a confrontation that plays to the strengths of the humans and not to them. In the first movie Lennox's team for instance wasn't armed with anything bigger than a 40mm GL. Here they're armed with missile launchers and rifles I assume are designed for anti-TF work and are being backed up by tanks, IFVs, and all manner of aircraft.

Another thing I noticed is that most of the decepticons we see aren't as big as the ones in the first film. In the first film the only autobot who was of comparable or larger size to most of the decepticons (specifically frenzy and barricade) was Optimus.

And what's with all that fluid? From Starscream's drooling to all the glowy bleeding when shot, they felt more like meatbags than Robots (unlike the first movie, where Optimus could take a full blast from Megatron, and it only scorched his armor plates).

The fluid was in TF1. You can see it most prominently when Brawl and Blackout go down.

[Vympel]

The fluid's lubricant (remember Bumblebee peeing on Simmons?). It's a no-brainer when you think about it for more than two seconds.

[JointStrikeFighter]

Except why would hyper tech liquid metal nano pew pew robots need lubricant?

[wautd]

Perhaps they resurrected Blackout off screen and he was one of the signatures coming back up?

Apparently, that wasn't Blackout at all. His name was Grindor.

Huh, so they brought in a random decepticon that transforms in a MH-53 as well? I also saw Bonecrusher driving in the desert (although not doing actual fighting). It would have made more sense that they revived some TF1 Decepticons together with Megathron imo.

Except why would hyper tech liquid metal nano pew pew robots need lubricant?

Some Decepticons look more like cyborgs than robots (Megathron and Starscream in particular)

[Stark]

Some Decepticons look more like cyborgs than robots (Megathron and Starscream in particular)

Since they can change their appearance at a whim, I'm not sure how important that is.

[Ford Prefect]

Except why would hyper tech liquid metal nano pew pew robots need lubricant?

To deal with friction, of course.

[dragon]

My wife and I saw it finally and my wife got a kick out of it. She found the twins to be funny yet stupid, and she laughed her ass off at the sight of the metal balls. I thought the S7 guy did a decent job. Even though why the primes even started building the device on Earth when they knew it had life was a bit of a plot hole.
Also go Navy with the rail gun kill shot.

But as jetfire mentioned that he had a mother and a father and we saw baby transformers and that Optimus is a descendant I'm wondering how the life cycle of the bots works. Also wasn't the bots in the comics millions of years old verse the few thousands in the movie?

[Lost Soal]

My wife and I saw it finally and my wife got a kick out of it. She found the twins to be funny yet stupid, and she laughed her ass off at the sight of the metal balls. I thought the S7 guy did a decent job. Even though why the primes even started building the device on Earth when they knew it had life was a bit of a plot hole.

They didn't build it. They landed with it.

[xerex]

I think the problem with TF2 is that it had too much plot and not enough character. IMHO this should have been two movies with TF2 being revive Megatron ending with the Forest Fight and TF3 being revive Optimus. i think this would have allowed everyone to get some decent character building.

oh and does anybody really think Pres obama would be authorizing that beauracrat guy ? he was completely pointless. They could have had the air drop be completely above board and still have the same outcome..

[DarkSilver]

the NSA guy was pretty much pointless and annoying as hell. I mean, shit, one of his first actions were to insult the Autobots because they wouldn't share weapons tech with the US.

Oh, and apparently if the US denies the Autobots asylum....what's to stop them from going to say...Canada? Mexico? Great Britain? France? Russia? China? Iran? North Korea? Just about anywhere else? Why would the Autobots leave the planet because lil jerkoff with a bloated head told them GTFO?!