killing stuff

Grog · Post by **Grog** » 2003-02-09 04:48pm

when is it justified? and why. and I dont mean just humans. what do you think?

jaeger115 · Post by **jaeger115** » 2003-02-09 04:51pm

When someone with out-of-whack evil ideas rallies up an entire state and begins invading all the neighbors, like Hitler.

POKE.

Grog · Post by **Grog** » 2003-02-09 04:53pm

jaeger115 wrote:When someone with out-of-whack evil ideas rallies up an entire state and begins invading all the neighbors, like Hitler.

POKE.

bah I've been here longer than you newbie

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-02-09 04:55pm

I`m all for killing parasites like pidgeons and rats but thanks to idiots like PETA we can`t do it

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-02-09 05:00pm

For animals: when they are tasty.

Grog · Post by **Grog** » 2003-02-09 05:10pm

It is the why part of my question which I would like to be answered. I mean we could decrease the amount of killing and still survive? Don’t get me wrong I eat meat and squash bugs that bug or try to suck blood from me and know that war is sometimes required. But I want people’s opinions

jaeger115 · Post by **jaeger115** » 2003-02-09 05:41pm

bah I've been here longer than you newbie

Well, I've posted far more than you in a shorter time and that counts more than just being here.

Exonerate · Post by **Exonerate** » 2003-02-09 05:49pm

jaeger115 wrote:
bah I've been here longer than you newbie
Well, I've posted far more than you in a shorter time and that counts more than just being here.

Well, yeah, but using your logic, Mike_6002 would be senior to almost all of us had he continued posting...

Post by **Colonel Olrik** » 2003-02-09 05:53pm

jaeger115 wrote:
bah I've been here longer than you newbie
Well, I've posted far more than you in a shorter time and that counts more than just being here.

No it doesn't. Seniority counts equally, if not more. There was a thread about this a while ago.

Following a similar reasoning, a member who doesn't post often but posts cleverly is respected. One who posts a lot but only spams is not.

jaeger115 · Post by **jaeger115** » 2003-02-09 06:04pm

Well, yeah, but using your logic, Mike_6002 would be senior to almost all of us had he continued posting...

I take that back. Sorry I didn't think before posting.

salm · Post by **salm** » 2003-02-09 06:49pm

killing animals is justified when there made into food.
reason: we want good, healthy food and meat belongs into this category if the amount is right.

killing animals is justified if they´re annoying little bugs which dont have any purpose but to annoy you, dont have a nerve system that allows them to enjoy the pleasure of pain. reason: they´re annoying

killing animals is justified if they are carierrs of deceases such as mice and rats. reason: they spread deceases which might harm humans or important animals.

killing animals is justified in case they are plagues that eat up food that is meant to be eaten by us, e.g. locusts, mice, rats.
reason: they can cause hunger or at least be a financial disaster.

killing animals is justified if they are attacking you and if it´s capable of hurting or killing a human. for example, you can shoot a bear or a dog if it´s about to rip you appart. reason: obvious

killing humans is justified if it´s a hard case of self defence or if you´re a soldier killing enemy soldiers. reason: obvious as well

abortion is also justified even though i cant say if that can be considered killing a human. reason: woman is supposed to able to chose what happens to her body.

MAHOK!

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-02-09 06:55pm

Killing non endangered animals that are wild or your property is fine all the time as far as I'm concerned. Engaged creatures need to be protected so we can kill them later.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-02-09 07:01pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:Killing non endangered animals that are wild or your property is fine all the time as far as I'm concerned. Engaged creatures need to be protected so we can kill them later.

Actually I think that even if they are endangered, if they pose a clear and present danger to somebody's life, they should be killed as a last resort.

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2003-02-11 03:10pm

"survival" covers it pretty well.

Zoink · Post by **Zoink** » 2003-02-11 03:36pm

Animals: Not endangered, and are tasty or make usefull clothing.

Humans: Self defense; or are tasty and lost in the Andes.

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2003-02-11 04:29pm

Well suicide is ok if it is justified, like someone has a terminal disease or something.

Killing part of a group to save the rest of a group is also ok.

meNNis · Post by **meNNis** » 2003-02-11 08:40pm

Durran Korr wrote:For animals: when they are tasty.

that goes for people too.

mmmm.... babeh. get in mah belly!

Grog · Post by **Grog** » 2003-02-12 01:36am

Pu-239 wrote:Well suicide is ok if it is justified

Embracer Of Darkness · Post by **Embracer Of Darkness** » 2003-02-12 11:13am

I believe killing is completely justified when attacked or hungry.

People might disagree, they can eat their own dick.

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2003-02-12 12:35pm

salm wrote:killing animals is justified when there made into food.
reason: we want good, healthy food and meat belongs into this category if the amount is right.

killing animals is justified if they´re annoying little bugs which dont have any purpose but to annoy you, dont have a nerve system that allows them to enjoy the pleasure of pain. reason: they´re annoying

killing animals is justified if they are carierrs of deceases such as mice and rats. reason: they spread deceases which might harm humans or important animals.

killing animals is justified in case they are plagues that eat up food that is meant to be eaten by us, e.g. locusts, mice, rats.
reason: they can cause hunger or at least be a financial disaster.

killing animals is justified if they are attacking you and if it´s capable of hurting or killing a human. for example, you can shoot a bear or a dog if it´s about to rip you appart. reason: obvious

killing humans is justified if it´s a hard case of self defence or if you´re a soldier killing enemy soldiers. reason: obvious as well

abortion is also justified even though i cant say if that can be considered killing a human. reason: woman is supposed to able to chose what happens to her body.

MAHOK!

Euthanasia. For both humans and animals
Other than that, I agree with all those...

(PS - post 1000)

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2003-02-12 04:10pm

Durran Korr wrote:For animals: when they are tasty.

Or if they are threatening your (or others) well-being.

But it's better if they're just tasty.

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2003-02-12 09:44pm

DPDarkPrimus wrote:
Durran Korr wrote:For animals: when they are tasty.
Or if they are threatening your (or others) well-being.

But it's better if they're just tasty.

I think it goes without saying that self-defense or defense of others is always a justifiable reaon.

Admiral Johnason · Post by **Admiral Johnason** » 2003-02-12 09:46pm

Hunting rocks you hippies who don't agree with me. Go eat your damn PETAs. Sorry, I just had to say that. If I offened anyone, I am sorry and glad.

SyntaxVorlon · Post by **SyntaxVorlon** » 2003-02-12 10:08pm

I could start an ethical debate over whether or not it is alright to kill other human beings in war. I understand that WWII was justifiable, but Dresden?
Personally I find our conduct as a species aborrant and would not be surprised if we were judged unfit to live by galactic forces.
Death is as inevitable as time, and just as annoying an issue. PETA-people that think that all killing of animals should be stopped, are afraid of death and think, subconsciously, that if no one tries to kill the cute little rabbit it won't die out. PETA exists mainly to keep humans from abusing animals and harming them during their short lives. Since most raised animals are going to be euthanised and served or skinned, a process which would probably put any carnivore on a vegitarian diet with raw fish on the side. Some PETA people would demand that all animals be allowed into human society with equivalent rights. These are dodoheads. A lot of them just don't want to hear about how chickens are kept in cramped dirty cages, spreading diseases and shitting on top of eachother, or the pits of pig feces that some farmers keep on their property because they can't dispose of it properly.