Thanas wrote:
Good luck with that - you have no interdictor cruisers and all it takes is a simple hyperspace transmission. Or I just hyper into his territory. It is not like we don't know where it is.
Yes, we know where Thrawn is, if you mean "somewhere in the Unknown Regions." He effectively disappears for six years after Endor.
Plenty of time for one of the numerous people here who doesn't like the idea of you ratting out their location to Thrawn to track you down, and either set up an ambush while you're in a gravity well or buy/steal an interdictor.
Of course, if you can cite a specific date and location where you can locate Thrawn at the time of this scenario, I will immediately concede the point.
You could always go preemptively blow up/capture the Katana fleet.
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Thanas wrote:
Good luck with that - you have no interdictor cruisers and all it takes is a simple hyperspace transmission. Or I just hyper into his territory. It is not like we don't know where it is.
Yes, we know where Thrawn is, if you mean "somewhere in the Unknown Regions." He effectively disappears for six years after Endor.
Plenty of time for one of the numerous people here who doesn't like the idea of you ratting out their location to Thrawn to track you down, and either set up an ambush while you're in a gravity well or buy/steal an interdictor.
Of course, if you can cite a specific date and location where you can locate Thrawn at the time of this scenario, I will immediately concede the point.
Simple, just force Thrawn to come to you. Pay a visit to the Empire of the Hand on Nirauan and ask to see Thrawn or go to Honoghr and see if you can convince the Noghri to call Thrawn. I would try for Nirauan first. If anyone comes from you the Empire will most likely attack them.
Hawkwings wrote:You could always go preemptively blow up/capture the Katana fleet.
Hey now, I already called that I was grabbing the Katana Fleet (and Mount Tantiss) so by virtue of having posted that such a long time ago (comparatively) I have acted before any of you and the Fleet is mine.
Samuel wrote:Only everyone- for the clones for most, for the experiments for me.
Oh well. I'll just hope their are a few left. I never had any delusions of actually holding the world. I'll be content to make off with a few shuttles full if nothing else.
Of course, with that many out their saturating the market I probably won't be able to sell them for as much, but I can at least keep some fucking Dark-sider from mind-manipulating me or my men.
Samuel wrote:Only everyone- for the clones for most, for the experiments for me.
Oh well. I'll just hope their are a few left. I never had any delusions of actually holding the world. I'll be content to make off with a few shuttles full if nothing else.
Of course, with that many out their saturating the market I probably won't be able to sell them for as much, but I can at least keep some fucking Dark-sider from mind-manipulating me or my men.
Don't worry about it, our cloning facilities come complete with Ysalamiri so we should have several breeding colonies present near those sites considering the 1,000,000 clones a month capabilities of our tech. You won't actually need to run anywhere to get protection from the Force.
avatarxprime wrote: our cloning facilities come complete with Ysalamiri so we should have several breeding colonies present near those sites considering the 1,000,000 clones a month capabilities of our tech. You won't actually need to run anywhere to get protection from the Force.
The Romulan Republic wrote:Has anyone else called Mykyr? If not, I now have Ysalamiri.
Oh, and force Thrawn to come to you? Is Thrawn suddenly that easy to manipulate? Ask him politely and hope you're not beneath his notice, more likely.
Well, if you showed up in his space he'd probably take notice. Doesn't mean he'd take you seriously, however.
Heh. No, we know precisely the way to Chiss space. We also know where the UR are located. We also know where Thrawn's force was campaigning in the weeks up to Endor. So yeah, making contact is trivially easy.
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For now I have not a lot of good ideas, just exchanging my Lancers for Carracks. Now my force is this one:
Imperial I-class Star Destroyer Arcadia;
Acclamator-class transport Oberth, Goddard, Tsiolkovsky;
Carrack-class light cruiser (flak laser-equipped version) Kuwamel, Valkirye, Falmel, Camel, Swamel;
Carrack-class light cruiser (ion cannon-equipped version) Musai, Tokumel, Primus, Baromel, Remul.
Then I just remembered that there's a race that may have superior propulsion technology. We can contact THEM and see if we can have their technology
A thought just occurred to me. Yes, we wouldn't know about 99% of the galaxy and its societies. But that really has no bearing on our effectiveness or lack thereof in command of a fleet. Fact is, any board members who get themselves blown up due to their own stupidity would have done so even if they had been natives. As long as we're not obvious fuck-ups, our crews wouldn't have any reason to mutiny, because in the Chair Force at least, the base commander really has little to do with 90% of the day-to-day happenings, and in fact spends a significant portion of his day running from meeting to meeting about the 10% that he does deal with. I don't see why the situation would be any different here.
The Romulan Republic wrote:Presuming that:
a) they can be breed in captivity, and
b) anyone knows how to do it.
Just being a pessimist.
Well, since we can sustain them in captivity, we should be familiar enough with their physiology to create a dedicated cloning facility for them. I'm hoping that somewhere on our 25 home worlds there will be a biologist with the know-how to set this up or at least get this project started.
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Well, since we can sustain them in captivity, we should be familiar enough with their physiology to create a dedicated cloning facility for them.
I love this. Breeding a species that cancels out the force. On the other hand, the force has shown to... react to things that threat it. What is the worse that can happen opposing a universe wide supermind?
Well, since we can sustain them in captivity, we should be familiar enough with their physiology to create a dedicated cloning facility for them.
I love this. Breeding a species that cancels out the force. On the other hand, the force has shown to... react to things that threat it. What is the worse that can happen opposing a universe wide supermind?
Well considering there is a planet full of them and the Force hasn't gotten around to convincing any random Sith to just up and destroy said planet we should probably be OK.
Well, since we can sustain them in captivity, we should be familiar enough with their physiology to create a dedicated cloning facility for them.
I love this. Breeding a species that cancels out the force. On the other hand, the force has shown to... react to things that threat it. What is the worse that can happen opposing a universe wide supermind?
Well considering there is a planet full of them and the Force hasn't gotten around to convincing any random Sith to just up and destroy said planet we should probably be OK.
One planet is different from 92075 worlds. Not to mention that they aren't the main lifeform on that planet while we will be making them like crazy.
Samuel wrote:One planet is different from 92075 worlds. Not to mention that they aren't the main lifeform on that planet while we will be making them like crazy.
That just seems like an inherently bad idea to me. We should be using the Ysalamiri on a limited basis, for cloning and other sensitive facilities. Making entire planets null zones in the Force is like asking for trouble. Luke did learn to sense Ysalamiri induced pockets of null Force quickly enough and I'm sure that a sufficiently large concentration on multiple planets would probably qualify as a disturbance in the Force since it would appear like life was being snuffed out.
Samuel wrote:One planet is different from 92075 worlds. Not to mention that they aren't the main lifeform on that planet while we will be making them like crazy.
That just seems like an inherently bad idea to me. We should be using the Ysalamiri on a limited basis, for cloning and other sensitive facilities. Making entire planets null zones in the Force is like asking for trouble. Luke did learn to sense Ysalamiri induced pockets of null Force quickly enough and I'm sure that a sufficiently large concentration on multiple planets would probably qualify as a disturbance in the Force since it would appear like life was being snuffed out.
We are cloning about 4 billion clones a month. I think that the amount just to cover the flash cloning would have a noticable impact.
GEH! NO CLones! where are you going to get the food to feed them? Armor to equip them? Guns to give them? Housing? barracks?
Anyone who actually starts using their magic cloning vats is in for a heap of toruble unless you've set up some serious manufacturing infrastructure.
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Thanas wrote:Heh. No, we know precisely the way to Chiss space. We also know where the UR are located. We also know where Thrawn's force was campaigning in the weeks up to Endor. So yeah, making contact is trivially easy.
Very well then. I'll concede that you could probably contact Thrawn.
Of course, your intentions of turning over everyone's ships to Thrawn pose a considerable problem for me. Guess I'll just jump to some random corner of the Galaxy, lay low, and hope that I'm beneath Thrawn's notice for a while.
Can I just say that I think the Ysalamiri are the dumbest fucking idea in the entire dumbfuck EU? "The Force is an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us and penetrates us. It binds the galaxy together. The power to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force. It informs the entire underlying mythology of the story--frankly, it is the underlying mythology of the story. Oh, and it can be nullified by the Plot Slugs from Planet Nowhere." Christ.
As for this thread, the pages added since my last comment have done nothing to convince me this would be anything less than a total clusterfuck and we'll all be lucky to be alive by the end of it. The most likely outcome would probably be the grownups in the group agreeing on some kind of leadership structure; maybe based in part on the board hierarchy, but to be blunt, I'm not going to take orders from someone just because he was a big shot on an internet forum and I doubt anyone else will, either, so if there's going to be any organization at all the most competent had better rise to the top and quickly. Then comes the inevitable fighting to bring the loose cannons under control, and after that the civil war between the factions that want to restore the Empire (either under Palpatine or Thrawn or somebody else) and those that don't. The carnage will only be limited by the number of people who've fallen into the Maw or lost their fleet intervening in somebody's brushfire war or somesuch damnfool thing. Bonus hilarity for when someone from outside our little bubble pokes his nose in and gives us a solid thrashing despite our superior numbers, because, hey, it turns out watching movies and reading novels doesn't actually teach you how to effectively conduct a space battle.
So yeah, total clusterfuck. I'm definitely with the Mess: selling the fleet and retiring to Space Tahiti seems like the best possible option for my own personal well-being.
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Can I just say that I think the Ysalamiri are the dumbest fucking idea in the entire dumbfuck EU?
Technically, the superweapon that freezes ships in space would be the single dumbest- this is a close second.
So yeah, total clusterfuck. I'm definitely with the Mess: selling the fleet and retiring to Space Tahiti seems like the best possible option for my own personal well-being.
Good look. Space Tahiti gets leveled by the Vong, a random warlord or the NR- or you might end up having your money confiscated to pay for the infghting and drafted into service.
This thread has convinced me that at this point some of the participants wouldn't deserve any command, let alone a command of an entire fleet of warships. Pillaging and burning planets? How come that hasn't raised any ethical concerns?
Furthermore, to all those who expressed desire to ally themselves with Palpatine's regime, maybe jo help the galaxy repel the Vong invaders, have you considered the fact that Palpatine IS an evil man? The Vong might not invade if Palpatine's (or the Empire's) position is strong enough, but then again you would be replacing a barbaric invasion force with a bloody and sociopathic tyrant and his corrupt regime. Even with Thrawn there are some concerns, since he was quite willing to let a bunch of Dark Jedi loose on the galaxy (by cloning the unstable Joruus C'baoth) and even let a dangerous, maniacal Dark Jedi off from a distant planet.
All in all, I would probably support the Mess's decision. It's certain I wouldn't try anything with a bunch of un-trained people who most likely would be utterly incapable of holding a real command for any length of time (and might turn upon each other).
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Samuel wrote:Good look. Space Tahiti gets leveled by the Vong, a random warlord or the NR- or you might end up having your money confiscated to pay for the infghting and drafted into service.
I'll take my chances.
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Pillaging and burning planets? How come that hasn't raised any ethical concerns?
Are you refering to rule 1 of piracy or something different?
Furthermore, to all those who expressed desire to ally themselves with Palpatine's regime, maybe jo help the galaxy repel the Vong invaders, have you considered the fact that Palpatine IS an evil man?
He is dead, remember? We have the clones to deal with... but that can be taken care of.
^Yeah, you'll be perfectly able to take down the imperial starfleet around Byss and Byss itself....remind me where you got a dozen Star Dreadnoughts?
This is beyond idiotic.
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