Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Spoiler ahoy!)

[Stark]

They can only use trypticon if they use the line from War Within.

'No offence, but who designed you? what are you even supposed to BE?'

Turns out War Within has both better designs and better jokes that are meta as fuck? Roffle.

BTW it's no surprise they ditched the aircraft carrier.

[Molyneux]

They can only use trypticon if they use the line from War Within.

'No offence, but who designed you? what are you even supposed to BE?'

Turns out War Within has both better designs and better jokes that are meta as fuck? Roffle.

BTW it's no surprise they ditched the aircraft carrier.

...Why exactly is it "no surprise"?

[RogueIce]

BTW it's no surprise they ditched the aircraft carrier.

...Why exactly is it "no surprise"?

What use is a Decepticon aircraft carrier, exactly? How would they "slip in" and replace a real carrier with nobody noticing? Plus, by the time they'd hit the carrier in the movie, the Fallen had already done his "fuck this blending in shit" and so the need for an actual aircraft carrier is even less...it's not like the flying Decepticons need it to base from or anything. They all seemed to get around just fine.

EDIT: Sure for an OOU thing it's be awesome to see for some. But IU...why would the Decepticons bother?

[Molyneux]

BTW it's no surprise they ditched the aircraft carrier.

...Why exactly is it "no surprise"?

What use is a Decepticon aircraft carrier, exactly? How would they "slip in" and replace a real carrier with nobody noticing? Plus, by the time they'd hit the carrier in the movie, the Fallen had already done his "fuck this blending in shit" and so the need for an actual aircraft carrier is even less...it's not like the flying Decepticons need it to base from or anything. They all seemed to get around just fine.

EDIT: Sure for an OOU thing it's be awesome to see for some. But IU...why would the Decepticons bother?

Er...to be able to stomp Autobots and assorted buildings beneath his massive feet, of course? I'm not sure I understand the question.

[MKSheppard]

Saw an open captioned version of it this morning. Fortunately, the projector lamp did not burn out like yesterday's attempt to see it.

And I have to say it was a pure pile of win -- who cares if it had the plot consistency of swiss cheese; I got my $7.50 dollars worth of entertainment from this film.

[Havok]

They can only use trypticon if they use the line from War Within.

'No offence, but who designed you? what are you even supposed to BE?'

Turns out War Within has both better designs and better jokes that are meta as fuck? Roffle.

BTW it's no surprise they ditched the aircraft carrier.

...Why exactly is it "no surprise"?

Because you would need a Decepticon the size of an aircraft carrier in the first place to take the form of it.

[VF5SS]

Or several smaller ones that combine into an aircraft carrier.

[Havok]

Or several smaller ones that combine into an aircraft carrier.

Several? Dude... how many Decepticons would it take to displace 100,00t? If you had that many, you wouldn't need to hide them all as a carrier in the first place.

[MKSheppard]

I'm interested in the B-24 picture briefly shown by ex-Agent Simmons of a possibul Transformer.

[Oskuro]

Several? Dude... how many Decepticons would it take to displace 100,00t? If you had that many, you wouldn't need to hide them all as a carrier in the first place.

The real question is, who cares? It'd be awesome! And despite the full disclosure, I reckon the Decepticons can still use their alternate modes to avoid being shot at on sight.

And let's be serious, they must get Unicron for the next installment. Something as puny as an aircraft carrier is hardly worth discussing

[Ford Prefect]

And let's be serious, they must get Unicron for the next installment.

When the dude gave to 'if God made man in his image, who made him?' in reference to Optimus, my thought was 'yeah, about that'.

[RogueIce]

Er...to be able to stomp Autobots and assorted buildings beneath his massive feet, of course? I'm not sure I understand the question.

That's an argument for "Big Ass Decepticon" though. There's really no reason, even if they had one that big or enough that would combine, to actually take the form of an aircraft carrier. It's not exactly going to blend in.

The other forms they probably could snatch away and destroy a model of whatever they're replacing and go take their place in the flight line, motor pool, or wherever. You can't really do that with an aircraft carrier. Heck, Starscream was probably tricky managing that with an F-22. A CVN is just...impossible, really.

[Stark]

And let's be serious, they must get Unicron for the next installment. Something as puny as an aircraft carrier is hardly worth discussing

Shoehorning in stupid crap from old continuities (like the Fallen, resurrection, etc) isn't going to help the franchise. Unicron is probably one of the stupider ideas G1 threw out; beaten only by things like transformation cogs and hate viruses.

It literally makes me laugh out loud to imagine the contrived bullshit they'd cook up to allow Megan Fox to kill Unicron (since the movie guys lack giant cybertron-based defences, the Matrix, Primus, starships, and a new toy line to herald in or even magic robot-killing mutants). Some bits of Allspark dirt in her buttcrack means she can ... something... and thus Unicron is dead. He can't even really show up without worldwide devastation, which will be 'covered up'. Maybe he'll use the power of the No-Spark to create Super Energon and unleash the combiner wars after Prime and Megatron are lost through a space bridge and Shockwave takes command! Grimlock can be king and throw Blaster into space! Trawling old continuities for stupid crap is easy!

What they really need to do is bring in the targetmasters. An utterly retarded idea that nobody remembers that will do nothing. AMAZING!

[Shroom Man 777]

Aw, fuck man. My classmates were going for a second viewing of Revenge of the Fallen, and when I looked at the SMS message and called 'em, they were already in the theater! Fuck!

[Gil Hamilton]

Saw it today.

Well, the giant robot action was good, but every other scene in the entire movie that didn't have one robot shooting at or punching or stabbing another alien robot was terrible. The plot was retarded, I hated every human character in the movie, it relied too much on Komedy (really, dogs humping and Transformers with testicles?), and even if the plot was retarded, it was about as well organized and consistant as throwing a deck of cards off your roof.

Really, it was just about the most purile thing I've ever seen. I don't care that people go "LOLZ GIANT ROBOTZ BRAWLZING AND MEGAN FOX'S TITS! IN SLOW MOTION!", that doesn't excuse the fact that it was a damn poorly put together movie. You can have awesome action scenes, tits, and even a squishy soft campy scifi movie and still have it be well put together; we call this the Fifth Element (which had all three, though to be fair, Milla Jovovich isn't known exactly for her chest, so I suppose "tits" has an asterisk). This movie seemed like it was made by a committee of giggling fourteen year old boys trying to design the MOST SUPAR AWSHUM MOVIE EVAR!

I love 18's retarded logic by the way; he just proved that the best hamburger in the world is the McDonald's quarter pounder with cheese, since he suggests that quality is derived from lost of people buying the product. After all, millions upon millions of McDonald's quarter pounders with cheese are consumed every year, vastly more most burgers on the planet. Therefore, according to 18, it must, in fact, by a really good burger, much better than any gourmet burger that any other resturant serves which don't sell a fraction of the volume that McDonald's does.

[Havok]

Uh oh. Becareful Gil. Throw a "fanboy jerkoff" in there and it's off to the HoS with you.

Yeah, once again... this movie is fucking stupid. Only the fact that I was expecting that going in, I am a HUGE Megan Fox fanboy jerkoff (at least twice a week ) and the robot fights were fun, give it any redeeming value for me.
You are a little harder on it than I am though, just because I didn't think Sam and Mikela where quite that bad. (I wish the Decepticons would have turned Sam's parents, Sector 7 Jock Strap and nerd roomate into fucking lubricant.)

But yeah, plot, dialogue, geography... completely fucking lame. It was visually impressive, and conveyed a nice grand scale, but man... what a fucking terd. The more I think about it, the less the good points have any bearing for me. On top of the designs still sucking from square one a movie ago.

[Darth Fanboy]

For TF 3 I'd like to see a live action take on the plot from G1's "The Ultimate Doom". A kick ass prolonged duel between Prime and Megatron with Cybertron hanging in Earth;'s Sky wrecking the entire damn planet isn't too much to ask for is it? It seems too soon to bring in Unicron.

[Havok]

Didn't they cite Cybertron as being destroyed a few times now?

[Darth Fanboy]

Wrecked, ravaged, possibly dead, but I don't think it was necessairly blown up ala Alderaan.

[Havok]

Yeah but Cybertron in G1 wasn't any of those, they just couldn't get back to it. What would be the point of bringing a dead planet into Earth's orbit... something which would surely wreak havoc and possibly destroy both planets in the precess.

Besides, Cybertron doesn't seem to be the point of what the Decepticons are doing, but keeping the species alive. At least the Decepticons. The Autobots seem content with letting their species die out.

[TheLostVikings]

For TF 3 I'd like to see a live action take on the plot from G1's "The Ultimate Doom". A kick ass prolonged duel between Prime and Megatron with Cybertron hanging in Earth's Sky wrecking the entire damn planet isn't too much to ask for is it? It seems too soon to bring in Unicron.

Pfft, exchange Cybertron hanging uselessly in the sky with Unicron looming ominously, continuously drawing ever closer while preparing to devouring us all. And because of [inert plot macguffin here], the only thing that could possibly save us is resting on the outcome of the epic fight between Prime and Megs!

Now that would be raising the stakes.

[Havok]

Raising the stakes from blowing up our Sun?

[SAMAS]

Sort of. It goes from callousness to deliberate.

[DarkSilver]

Idea for the third movie to include unicron:

Use what the Fallen was suppossed to be - use the Heralds of Unicron.

Queue into a scene where some form of the Sweeps are in space, scouting for new life bearing planets (or Cybertron) for Unicron to devour (since he is a Chaos god and all that...but he is hungry). The Sweeps locate a planet teeming with advanced life, and signal their Master. Queue fuck off big Unicron casting a shadow, blocking out the sun as it nears the planet, planet has all sorts of natural disasters as Unicron's own gravity comes into play and wrecks havoc. Planet gets eaten in a suitably awesome fashion.

Queue up a scene in NASA or some such, where they note that a planet some several hundred light years away just stopped throwing out radio signals they had been tracking. Scenes of Autobots still hunting down Decepticons, but since it's in the public sight thanks to the Fallen last movie....no more big secrecy needed. It's a state of war with the Autobots having allies, and so now do the Decepticons.

Back in space, the Sweeps pick up the signal Prime sent out at the end of the last movie....and track the Transformers down to Earth. Queue search for MacGuffin #3, with the Autobots and Decepticons working together to stop Unicron. Queue chase for MacGuffin, fight scenes the Sweeps vs the Autobots and Decepticons, Optimus and Megatron are brought MacGuffin by humans and Autobots, Prime and MEgatron ride up into the belly of the beast as it where. Prime and Megatron fight their way through Unicron's "Antibodies", only to reach where the MacGuffin should be used...to find Cyclonus. Prime and Megatron have a pitched battle, in which they finally defeat Cyclonus - Prime uses MacGuffin - Unicron is defeated.

Prime and Megatron have huge fuck off final battle inside belly of now deactivated Unicron, Prime Wins, flies back to Earth.

Closing scene - Prime does his speach thing, flip to scene of Megatron's deactivated body in Unicron, and deep, echoing voice saying "Arise....Galvatron" and Megatron's eyes light up and his body reformats.

Queue credits.

[Stark]

Dear jesus. Darksilver is... Micheal Bay!

My eyes nearly melted from so many improper uses of the word 'cue', by the way. But you're right, what they need is a rehash of the Armada Unicron storyline where Unicron is casually destroyed in a few panels by silliness. It'll fit right in with the current writing level.