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A new medal is awarded for the first time

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The Cross for Bravery is awarded the first time
Many Germans prefer to think of their army, the Bundeswehr, as a defensive army that shuns combat. The position is hard to reconcile with a new military award that honors exceptionally courageous action in the field.

For the first time since World War II, Germany has officially honored the courage of its soldiers with a newly minted medal. On Monday, Chancellor Angela Merkel and Defense Minister Franz Josef Jung (both of the Christian Democratic Union) presented the award to four Bundeswehr sergeants who risked their lives to help wounded soldiers and children during a suicide attack in Afghanistan.

The medal -- a small golden cross that hangs on a black, red and yellow ribbon decorated with oak leaves -- has been the source of much controversy. While some see it as a long overdue means to honor outstanding military service and an expression of "positive patriotism," others warn of a revival of German militarism.

Jung justified the creation of a "cross of honor for bravery," which President Köhler agreed to in October of last year, with the heightened level of danger that Bundeswehr soldiers are exposed to abroad. The medal is the fifth and highest distinction in the Bundeswehr. According to the decree that created it, the new cross honors "exceptionally courageous deeds" that go beyond what is expected "within the framework of the performance of duty."

While the four other Bundeswehr distinctions are awarded to soldiers who have served more than four months abroad and demonstrated loyal service or fulfilled their duty in an exemplary way, the new award insists on extraordinary accomplishment.

For the 130 years leading up to 1945, exceptional courage in German military service was honored with the Iron Cross. The medal was abolished at the end of World War II, during which it was awarded roughly 2.6 million times -- 2.3 million Second Class Iron Crosses and 300,000 Frist Class Iron Crosses. For many, that medal has come to symbolise the atrocities of the Third Reich.

Last March, the chairman of the Bundeswehr's reserves, Reinhard Beck, proposed reinstating the Iron Cross, but the suggestion met loud opposition in parliament and among Jewish groups.

The four soldiers that were honored on Monday were witness to a suicide attack by Taliban militants on Oct. 20, 2008 southwest of Kunduz. Two German soldiers were killed and two wounded in the attack. Five Afghan children were killed, one injured. Although the German's armored vehicle was on fire and munitions were exploding, the four soldiers, aged 28 to 33, rushed to the scene to try to help.

At the presentation in the chancellery, Jung called the soldiers "models for their comrades in their dedication to justice and freedom." Merkel called the soldier's action "an incentive not only for their comrades, but for us all." She defended the creation of the new award, saying that Germany's soldiers deserve "more recognition" for their service.

The medal is part of a larger push by the governing CDU to raise the profile and public appreciation of the Bundeswehr. This fall, a memorial to honor Bundeswehr soldiers who have died in service will be inaugurated in Berlin. It will be the first of its kind in Germany's post-war history.

Since the Bundeswehr entered Afghanistan in 2002, 35 soldiers have been killed. Last October, Jung began referring to the casualties as the "fallen". The rhetorical subtlety reflects the need to generate more public support for the Afghanistan mission.

According to a recent survey by Forsa, 61 percent of Germans favour an immediate withdrawal of the Bundeswehr from Afghanistan, whereas in 2002, 62 percent stood behind the mandate.

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The whole thing at first made me wonder. I'm 27 years old and yet I absolutely have no problem at all with all that stuff that come with military, including calling a war a war (something our minister of defense still avoids like the plague), speaking of fallen soldiers and giving medals for bravery.

But then I remembered that less than twenty years ago there were groups that would have screamed at you that you were a Nazi for simply showing the national flag, so I have a good guess from where all this screaming is now coming from. While it's gotten better it will be still some way before total normality sets in (although the first signs are already there). That they needed 50 years before actually creating a medal for bravery, that says it all...

Oh, this is the cross for bravery:
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Actual medal looks pretty good, though the cross is going to draw some Nazi iron cross comparisons.
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The Iron Cross wasn't really a Nazi award: it was created way before the Nazi Party even existed, though of course it swiftly found its way into Third Reich symbology, and became the award given to soldiers who burned down half of Europe. It sucks, since I really liked the design.

That cross is pretty benign, though. The only thing remotely resembling the Iron Cross is the shape, but that's rather minor. It's certainly overdue.

And hey, if somebody calls a soldier a Nazi because he got an award for saving wounded children...well, that's their problem. The soldier doesn't have anything to be ashamed of.
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That the shape of the iron cross is thought of as a nazi symbol just goes to show how utterly fucking ignorant people are of history.
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Well that is nice I suppose, but it sure isn't the Iron Cross.

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Why the cross is Nazi? Half of Europe uses a cross for the medals. Hell, Russia used it. Orders of Georgiy and of Vladimir both are cross-shaped. Russia still uses the Georgian cross

People who think the cross is somehow a Nazi symbol are just dumb.
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Julhelm wrote:That the shape of the iron cross is thought of as a nazi symbol just goes to show how utterly fucking ignorant people are of history.
To be completely honest, the award was granted a lot in WWII, so it's no wonder it became associated with the Wehrmacht.

None of the symbols associated with the Third Reich were actual Nazi symbols: the uniforms were established way before the Nazi party, the swastika was stolen from Hindu symbolism, etc.

It doesn't actually make glorifying them any less tasteless. Symbols can acquire a nasty context after they are created.
Stas wrote:Why the cross is Nazi? Half of Europe uses a cross for the medals. Hell, Russia used it. Orders of Georgiy and of Vladimir both are cross-shaped. Russia still uses the Georgian cross

People who think the cross is somehow a Nazi symbol are just dumb.
I'd argue that the shape is meaningless, but people who associate the Iron Cross (the particular award) with the Wehrmacht do have a point.
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There is a point. Then again, this isn't an Iron Cross redux but a distinctly different cross. Hence why I brought up Georgian cross, etc.
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Stas Bush wrote:There is a point. Then again, this isn't an Iron Cross redux but a distinctly different cross. Hence why I brought up Georgian cross, etc.
Yep, this cross has nothing to do whatsoever with the Iron Cross. Hell, its shape is almost identical to the Virtuti Military and a million other designs :D
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Julhelm wrote:That the shape of the iron cross is thought of as a nazi symbol just goes to show how utterly fucking ignorant people are of history.
To be completely honest, the award was granted a lot in WWII, so it's no wonder it became associated with the Wehrmacht.

None of the symbols associated with the Third Reich were actual Nazi symbols: the uniforms were established way before the Nazi party, the swastika was stolen from Hindu symbolism, etc.
Actually, the swastika has been in use in Europe even during roman times - it just got coopted by the Nazis and rose from being something of minor to a more prominent position.
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That medal kind of reminds me of the Navy Cross.
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The Navy Cross is probably further away from this than most medals with a cross design:

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I think this is pretty cool and a decent thing for the German's to do for their troops, only four other medals (non campaign stars) all of them basically "thanks for coming out" awards? It's about time they got some recognition for their work.
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Yeah, I was just thinking that America has a couple of cross-shaped awards that look very similar to that as well.

Bravo, Germany and the German troops who earned this.

Boo to the ignorant knee-jerk whiners.

Too bad about the historical baggage that accumulated around the old Iron Cross. That was a kick-ass looking award, but I can understand the reluctance about that.
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I agree it's high time german soldiers receive recognition for their peacetime efforts.

On the subject of controversy, Our Airforce flight school flag looks like this. flag

It did cause some ruckus here few years back. I'm glad they didn't change it. The swastika has been a symbol for good luck specially to the air force since day one.

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