Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Spoiler ahoy!)

[DarkSilver]

Dear jesus. Darksilver is... Micheal Bay!

My eyes nearly melted from so many improper uses of the word 'cue', by the way. But you're right, what they need is a rehash of the Armada Unicron storyline where Unicron is casually destroyed in a few panels by silliness. It'll fit right in with the current writing level.

Yes, well...you have to channel Bay in order to get the story just right. And well...Armada did it about to Bay levels with Unicron, only less explosions.

As in, complete lack of, and get the awesome explosions in.

The misuse of "Cue" was also deliberate, fits in with Bay's style I'd think.

[Oskuro]

So, in essence, Rise of the Silver surfer, but without the cocktease Galactus was.

[Lost Soal]

So, in essence, Rise of the Silver surfer, but without the cocktease Galactus was.

No, instead you get a cocktese Unicron. Plus you need to come up with a reason for why the Decepticons stay instead of just buggering off since the Allspark is gone, the Fallen is dead and the Energon creater is destroyed so they have no reason to risk their lives.

[Darth Yan]

Simple. Revenge. The autobots made them look like morons, and they are reasonably well off while the decepticons have jack shit. So at this point, they might just want the autobots to suffer

[Oskuro]

Closing scene - Prime does his speach thing, flip to scene of Megatron's deactivated body in Unicron, and deep, echoing voice saying "Arise....Galvatron" and Megatron's eyes light up and his body reformats.

Apparently, that has already happened:

When reviving the character, the writers chose not to rename him Galvatron so as to not confuse the general audience.

[Bounty]

I got round to seeing Transformers 2 today. It is a load of incoherent, loud, annoying shit. Like a lot of the fans.

So basically you have yet another unexplained McGuffin, or three, but one doesn't work without a fourth McGuffin, and it's never explained how or why any of this matters and it only works when you're Jesus. Then there's a global manhunt for a college kid who has the sort of relationship 'issues' most people grow out of around the third grade, and a guy gets tasered in the nuts, which is obviously a meaningfuls sequence requiring several minutes of setup and a reprisal later in the movie. A college comedy accidentally gets spliced into this part of the movie.

Meanwhile, army guys run around shouting QUANTUM CRYPTO and PACKAGE UNDERWAY while looking whistfully into the middle distance as they get out of their cars/trucks/whatever in super slow mo. Then a set of really white teeth attached to a set of really well supported boobies runs in slow motion and we're in Jordan (whoops, sorry, Egypt, let's hope nobody has seen Last Crusade!), where more people get into and out of cars in super slow mo. Also people shout a lot because they are about to die, which in this movie's universe appears to be a minor inconvenience. One sane man tries to ask what is going on but he gets thrown out of an airplane.

There's robots in there too. Some are good and don't really do anything except smell stuff. Others are bad and dryhump Megan Fox. There's a big one that transforms into a Hoover but he's not involved in any major scenes. Another robot knows roughly what is going on (or at least, this is what we are lead to believe) but he is senile and farts parachutes. Envied by much of the audience, he rips his guts out and mercifully leaves the movie by being dead.

There are chunks of movie where blurry charactars shout a lot, which I presume were supposed to look like fight scenes. I'd comment on them but they bored me.

In conclusion, I think I have seen this movie, but it may have just been the trailer on infinite repeat. I'd rate it but that's like giving the special kid a star for not pissing himself.

[Stark]

The misuse of "Cue" was also deliberate, fits in with Bay's style I'd think.

Well that depends. How many helicopters did you use?

[Xess]

I saw it on Sunday. I found it overall decent but I liked the first one more. The Twins were annoying as hell, too much juvenile humor in the movie, the roommate was completely unnecessary. The battles were fun though. I give it 3 out of 5.

[His Divine Shadow]

I liked the movie overall. The dislikes are the usual, those two annoying gangsta autobots first and foremost. Also I didnt much care for the invention of the Primes and the Fallen as plot lines, and then making the Fallen Megatrons master, I just wanted Megatron to be the big baddie, not some one-off for this movie only.

Jetfires walking stick was also dumb, just how do robots age anyway? Ofcourse I got the impression Jetfire attributed aging to a lack of energon. The plot had too many holes, I agree with the above poster about the juvenile humor, I had to roll my eyes or groan a bit too much for my tastes now and then, despite it being a movie about giant kung fu robots.

Also if that star chart stuff with Orion was true, wouldn't it have been in a different position way back when the pyramids where made and thus would now point to the wrong place?

Despite all that though, I enjoyed the movie. Lets just hope the third one is less juvenile and shallow.

[Oskuro]

I was wondering, I got the impression that it was implied that Jetfire had been in stasis for centuries before being re-awakened, but in order to get his SR-71 alternate mode, he must have been active up to the sixties to the very least.

[McC]

One of the first scenes depicts Optimus Prime, as a truck, being hot-dropped out of a C-3 and transforming in midair. Anyone who says this movie is anything less than pure awesome is dumb and wrong.

Liked it way more than the first one (which I enjoyed immensely), mainly because it didn't have a completely worthless subplot like the first one (the whole Australian chick/fat black hacker guy/Secretary Jon Voigt thing). It stuck with the mains the whole way through, and was much better for it.

[TheMuffinKing]

One of the first scenes depicts Optimus Prime, as a truck, being hot-dropped out of a C-3 and transforming in midair. Anyone who says this movie is anything less than pure awesome is dumb and wrong.

Liked it way more than the first one (which I enjoyed immensely), mainly because it didn't have a completely worthless subplot like the first one (the whole Australian chick/fat black hacker guy/Secretary Jon Voigt thing). It stuck with the mains the whole way through, and was much better for it.

Nitpick: It was a C-17!

[McC]

Nitpick: It was a C-17!

Thanks. I knew I should've checked that before I posted it.

[Havok]

One of the first scenes depicts Optimus Prime, as a truck, being hot-dropped out of a C-3 and transforming in midair. Anyone who says this movie is anything less than pure awesome is dumb and wrong.

A 10 second scene which was pointless (why did Prime need to be airdropped, when none of the other ABs did) and served only fanboy fapping of this franchise does not negate the utter STUPID that was the rest of the movie.

Liked it way more than the first one (which I enjoyed immensely), mainly because it didn't have a completely worthless subplot like the first one (the whole Australian chick/fat black hacker guy/Secretary Jon Voigt thing). It stuck with the mains the whole way through, and was much better for it.

Uh... Geeky conspiracy roomate/Sector 7 Jock strap/Presidential liaison.

[McC]

<snip> pointless (why did </snip>

See, that's where you went wrong.

Uh... Geeky conspiracy roomate/Sector 7 Jock strap/Presidential liaison.

Who stayed with the main character(s) throughout, unlike the hacking subplot in the first movie, which was basically self-contained.
How is this a subplot?
Again, a scene involving other main characters.

[Beowulf]

One of the first scenes depicts Optimus Prime, as a truck, being hot-dropped out of a C-3 and transforming in midair. Anyone who says this movie is anything less than pure awesome is dumb and wrong.

A 10 second scene which was pointless (why did Prime need to be airdropped, when none of the other ABs did) and served only fanboy fapping of this franchise does not negate the utter STUPID that was the rest of the movie.

Keeping Prime airborne allows them to drop him in front of where the Decepticon is going, ensuring their most powerful unit is where he's needed.

[TheMuffinKing]

Nitpick: It was a C-17!

Thanks. I knew I should've checked that before I posted it.

That's okay, I used to work on them.

I liked this movie, but not as much as the first one. Transformers 2 seemed too crowded.

[Havok]

One of the first scenes depicts Optimus Prime, as a truck, being hot-dropped out of a C-3 and transforming in midair. Anyone who says this movie is anything less than pure awesome is dumb and wrong.

A 10 second scene which was pointless (why did Prime need to be airdropped, when none of the other ABs did) and served only fanboy fapping of this franchise does not negate the utter STUPID that was the rest of the movie.

Keeping Prime airborne allows them to drop him in front of where the Decepticon is going, ensuring their most powerful unit is where he's needed.

wHAT THE?!! A sensible answer that actually explains something and doesn't involve "OMG IT IS THE GREATEST MOVIE EVAR!!1 AWESOOME!!! A MILLION GOLD STARS!!! YOU ARE STUPID FOR HATING IT!!!!"??

Beowulf, you may be in the wrong thread.

[CaptHawkeye]

Saw it, I didn't hate it but it was ultimately a very underwhelming film. Like the Matrix Reloaded, it just tried waaay too hard. Attempting to needlessly complexify the plot which succeds in little more than distracting from the characters and wittling away the attention span of the viewers. Besides that, guys like Hav have pointed out that it didn't even make any sense. Sam has to die to make the stupid Autobot Matrix work, but Fallen can literally just walk away with it.

Sure it starts out just fine, why they needed to add all this wierd stuff with the Fallen and "zomg linked human/robot history lol" is just strange. Megatron ended up spending most of the movie a complete pussy, having his strings pulled by some geezer on Cybertron or some shit. I don't want to see that. I want to see Megatron, leader of the Decepticons, calling the shots and killing the AB's. I want to see his rivalry with Optimus Prime like it was in the first movie. In this movie he just takes the sideline.

Worst of all, the humor went down the figurative and literal toilet. The scriptwriting and humor in the first film was like, half the movie's charm. Now it's...jockstraps, robot testicles, and inner city robots? Thanks for nothing.

Additional human characters were pointless, conspiracy room mate dude was annoying as fuck. I liked Simmons this time around, (for the most part, I really did not ever want to see his ass.) they should have just substituted him as "No. 3 human main" from the start. Instead, they tried to fix what wasn't broken.

Yeah, the fight scenes looked and played out wonderfully, especially Optimus's (inconsistent) one man show against 3 Decepticons in the forest. I'll just forget he couldn't even beat Megatron in a 1 on 1 last time. But cool fight scenes don't equal a good movie.

[Stark]

Wow just when you think people can't be any more simpleminded!!

Hawx, did you feel this movie was mre focused than the first? The first was quite all over the place, but listenng to Chairman and Hav talk about this it sounds worse, less due to plot-switching and more due to poorly communicated travel.

Apologies in advance to those who can't understand what I just said.

[Bounty]

There is no focus whatsoever. It's just a string of things happening.

[CaptHawkeye]

The first movie was disorganized and messy. This movie just adds lots of needless side plots without fixing the organization issues from the first movie. So what you get in the end is a bigger mess all of it designed specifically to provide convenience for X or Y fight scene. The movie doens't just ignore coherency half way through the plot, it literally feels like a different movie every 5 minutes.

I'd say the plot's issues come from poor communication between the scenes rather than the dialouge. This wouldn't be so stupid if it wasn't for adding all of the variables to the plot. I heard rumors during production that Bay was taking in lots of "fan input". I guess he never heard of Master's of Orion 3?

[Stark]

That's what I mean yeah; listening to people talk (during games of Gears, lol) it sounds like things and people move and happen as necessary to provide the next fight without it really making any sense, and people are suddenly somewhere else when the plot requires it with no explanation.

Clearly these are meaningless intellectual concerns.

[SAMAS]

Jetfires walking stick was also dumb, just how do robots age anyway?

I dunno, ask Alpha Trion.

[VF5SS]

At one point Jetfire talks about how a lack of Energon slowly kills a Transformer. Man, re-watching this movie made me realize that I liked Jetfire. He seemed to be the only robot with genuine character (not to mention meaningful screen time). Maybe there was some actual magic watching a SR-71 (in a museum no less) transform into what was essentially a giant RAF pilot complete with the accent. If anything, Jetfire succeeded where Bumblebee utterly failed at because he could actually talk to the audience and let us know who he was. But man does he go out in the worst way. He basically gets attacked by Scorponok (who was the lamest Transformer out of all of them) and is somehow incapacitated by the same move Scorponok did for the freaking trailer of the first movie. And I don't even get why Jetfire is so infatuated with "a living Prime." Optimus doesn't really do anything in front of Jetfire that makes him stand out. Maybe Sam should have just given Jetfire the Matrix so it could de-age him back into a proper GLORIOUS Jetfire.

Jetfire you were the only good thing in this movie. Even if you did fart out a drag chute.