Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Spoiler ahoy!)

[Stark]

I dunno, ask Alpha Trion.

Never takes long for nerds to bring up irrelevant stuff that somehow makes a point!

[Havok]

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See, that's where you went wrong.

Uh... Geeky conspiracy roomate/Sector 7 Jock strap/Presidential liaison.

Who stayed with the main character(s) throughout, unlike the hacking subplot in the first movie, which was basically self-contained.
How is this a subplot?
Again, a scene involving other main characters.

What the fuck are you talking about. There is an entire subplot about the military and ABs getting the shaft from Prez Obama because he, like everything else in this universe, is fucking stupid and sends in stereotypical douche Government Shit on Evereyone's Parade guy to "Shut 'Em Down!". He even got to relieve the guy from Vegas of command by ripping his patch off (Oooo how original) and then the guy from Vegas gets his revenge by dumping a completely helpless, unarmed, untrained, man all alone in the desert with no survival gear. Hate to break it to you, but guy from Vegas is not a main character.

Sector 7 Jock Strap and Geeky Conspiracy Roomate go off on their own with Eazy-E and Dr. Dre to fight Vaccumstator, which is like 15 minutes of the movie.

Seriously, wipe up, put your dick away, and pay attention to the movie.

[Oskuro]

Optimus doesn't really do anything in front of Jetfire that makes him stand out.

What, being dead doesn't count?

Despite the age-related jokes, I liked Jetfire, he did feel like a big stomping robot of DOOM, instead of an oversized ballerina with car pieces strapped on.

[Shroom Man 777]

Additional human characters were pointless, conspiracy room mate dude was annoying as fuck. I liked Simmons this time around, (for the most part, I really did not ever want to see his ass.) they should have just substituted him as "No. 3 human main" from the start. Instead, they tried to fix what wasn't broken.

Yeah, it would've been cool to have Simmons watching Sam and being all Secret Agent Man, out of some fastfood delivery truck - when he's REALLY delivering fast food because he's been fired!

Yeah, the fight scenes looked and played out wonderfully, especially Optimus's (inconsistent) one man show against 3 Decepticons in the forest. I'll just forget he couldn't even beat Megatron in a 1 on 1 last time. But cool fight scenes don't equal a good movie.

Optimus did spend the last two years ruining Decepticon shit and getting lots of practice. Megs spent that time being dead, before getting some shitpiece Decepticon's body parts grafted into his broken-ass robocorpse.

[Vympel]

Optimus did spend the last two years ruining Decepticon shit and getting lots of practice. Megs spent that time being dead, before getting some shitpiece Decepticon's body parts grafted into his broken-ass robocorpse.

Blasphemy. Megatron's clearly more bad-ass in TF2 than he was in TF1. He looks better, he's got a kick-ass one-armed fusion cannon, and he turns into both a jet and a Fucking Tank (TM). Triple Changers rule.

And he has tank treads for feet. How awesome is that?

Optimus getting practice is fine without impugning Megatron's mighty mightyness.

[VF5SS]

Megatron wasn't a tripple changer, he's literally a tank with wings. Also Optimus played a lot of God of War and Devil May Cry during the off season so he's got some awesome quick time even skills like slow-mo bullet and dual-wielding swords.

[ray245]

I was wondering if the sub-plot about Sam is even necessary at all. Sure, in the first movie, it's nice to see how a boy discover that his car is a giant robot and allow the audience to connect to the film characters.

However, Sam doesn't really serve a purpose in the second film. We don't really need Sam to connect with the audience and talk about his college life. It's not like it's going to be a movie about how owning a car matters when you are studying in college.

In my opinion, simply focusing on the relationship between NEST and the transformers is enough for people to relate to film.

[Kane Starkiller]

Saw it yesterday. Fun movie, better than TF1 in my opinion. The first one had a somewhat boring middle while this one was truly packed with action.
However I wouldn't mind if Bay stopped sucking US military cock so much. Kinda hard to take the Decepticons seriously when a single B-1B ruins their shit completely and then an Arleigh Burke effortlessly fucks up Devastator for good measure.

Here's hoping the third one won't entail a 3 hour footage of US military machine fucking up hordes of hapless Decepticon protoforms combined with US government officials fretting about the imminent invasion of an unstoppable super advanced enemy and the possible need of handing Sam over to them.


P.S. Isabel Lucas is hotter than Megan Fox. Sue me.

[NeoGoomba]

If the NEST piece of the Allspark was enough to revive Megatron who had been dead for 2 years, how come the one Sam had wasn't good enough for Optimus, not dead for days?

[Havok]

If the NEST piece of the Allspark was enough to revive Megatron who had been dead for 2 years, how come the one Sam had wasn't good enough for Optimus, not dead for days?

Shroomy cleared this up for me... Sam used his piece of the All Spark on Jetfire.

[neoolong]

Maybe it was something that only the Decepticons knew could work? So the Autobots and the humans never thought to try? The Fallen, who is older than the others (I think) could have known, but that knowledge got lost over the years to all but a few. That's all I got.

[NeoGoomba]

Shroomy cleared this up for me... Sam used his piece of the All Spark on Jetfire.

Yeah I know. As soon as Bumblebee knew they were going to revive an unknown Transformer with the Allspark, you'd think he would have put a stop to that bullshit and just fixed up Prime with it.

Of course, then the rest of the idiotic plot would have been meaningless...moreso.

[Anguirus]

^ To be fair, neither Sam nor anyone else knew that the Allspark fragment could be used to revive a dead Transformer. Jetfire wasn't dead, just inactive. Megatron appeared dead, but he got the Allspark jammed in him...certainly not a "traditional" death, and neither BB nor anyone else was familiar with the details of his resurrection.

Their initial goal was not to revive Prime. It was Jetfire who set up their motivation to try to resurrect Prime and informed them of a possible means to do so.

Finally, the last thing BB wanted at this point was to get Sam anywhere within sniffing distance of the authorities.

[NecronLord]

Got back from this today.

And I've got to say, I didn't find the final battle with Optimus rushed, or anticlimatic at all. I thought it was distinctly refreshing. The same old routine of the bad guy almost winning the fight was what I expected, instead, Optimus was just too badass for them, zoomed over, blew up their shit, smashed Megatron's face in and tore the Fallen's face off. To me, that was about the last thing I expected, and made the fight feel much more real and impressive because of it.

[FSTargetDrone]

I liked the movie just fine and I'll probably see it again. It may be silly, but my biggest problem was Bumblebee not talking. We got to hear a little of it at the end of the first film and there is no reason he couldn't have talked in the sequel, even mixing in radio speak if the desire arose on his part.

Also, I actually liked Simmons here too. He was a bit goofy, but that's okay. The twins didn't bother me much, but I could have used a little less of their antics.

[His Divine Shadow]

I can't believe I missed all these sector 7 videos they had for the first transformers movies marketing. Frankly I find the little glimpses we got from them more awesome than the movies we actually got.

[Vympel]

smashed Megatron's face in and tore the Fallen's face off.

Actually what happened is that Megatron tried to fire his fusion cannon at Optimus, but Optimus grabbed his arm and pointed it back in his face as it fired, blowing half of his own face off

Megatron wasn't a tripple changer, he's literally a tank with wings

Is there a clear look at Megatron's "jet" mode? I thought it looked different from his tank mode. Nowhere near his original alt-form from the first movie, but yeah, the DK book said he was a Triple Changer.

[Anguirus]

^ The DK book is wrong. It shows his movie 1 alt form as his third form. However, movie 2 Megatron flew to Titan as a "tank." Even if he had a jet form, he doesn't bother to use it.

[Vympel]

^ The DK book is wrong. It shows his movie 1 alt form as his third form. However, movie 2 Megatron flew to Titan as a "tank." Even if he had a jet form, he doesn't bother to use it.

Oh well. I didn't like his Cybertronian Jet mode that much anyway. Tank is cooler, and it's more Megatron / Galvatron.

[Shroom Man 777]

Blasphemy. Megatron's clearly more bad-ass in TF2 than he was in TF1. He looks better, he's got a kick-ass one-armed fusion cannon, and he turns into both a jet and a Fucking Tank (TM). Triple Changers rule.

And he has tank treads for feet. How awesome is that?

Optimus getting practice is fine without impugning Megatron's mighty mightyness.

Come on. In TF2007 Megs was all like "KAPLAH!" and "GIVE ME THE CUBE BOY!" and "SO UNWISE!" and proceeded to ruin Optimus' shit and would've so killed him dead if it weren't for those goddamn F-22s and maybe Starscream, and that goddamn cube.

In Revenge of the Fallen, Megs can't even slap Optimus around one by one and has to get Starscream and Blackout Jr. to help him out! What the hell, mang?! And even then he has to sneak up behind Optimus to ruin his shit, unlike last time where he could just punch Optimus in the face to make Optimus consider eating the cube himself. The only time he screamed anything was when he screamed "STARSCREAM!" and that was totally AFTER he got his ass kicked and his face blown off. MANG!

Sure, he did stomp on Starscream, but mang. Back in the first movie, he was goddamn UNSTOPPABLE.

ALLSPARK! MINE!

[Trogdor]

I liked the movie just fine and I'll probably see it again. It may be silly, but my biggest problem was Bumblebee not talking. We got to hear a little of it at the end of the first film and there is no reason he couldn't have talked in the sequel, even mixing in radio speak if the desire arose on his part.

The way Bee didn't speak once the whole movie struck me as weird, too, but I found the way he communicated with the radio charming enough to let it pass. Seriously, in his response to Sam's "if you hate me I'll understand" BB was far more endearing than the twins were for the entirety of the movie.

[Pint0 Xtreme]

Come on. In TF2007 Megs was all like "KAPLAH!" and "GIVE ME THE CUBE BOY!" and "SO UNWISE!" and proceeded to ruin Optimus' shit and would've so killed him dead if it weren't for those goddamn F-22s and maybe Starscream, and that goddamn cube.

In Revenge of the Fallen, Megs can't even slap Optimus around one by one and has to get Starscream and Blackout Jr. to help him out! What the hell, mang?! And even then he has to sneak up behind Optimus to ruin his shit, unlike last time where he could just punch Optimus in the face to make Optimus consider eating the cube himself. The only time he screamed anything was when he screamed "STARSCREAM!" and that was totally AFTER he got his ass kicked and his face blown off. MANG!

Sure, he did stomp on Starscream, but mang. Back in the first movie, he was goddamn UNSTOPPABLE.

ALLSPARK! MINE!

It seems like they moved that role of "unstoppable villain" from Megatron to the Fallen. I admit, Megatron seemed more intimidating in the first film in terms of "unstoppability".

[dragon]

I wonder how the real NEST team feels about the movie. For those that don't know.

The Nuclear Emergency Support Team (NEST) is the National Nuclear Security Administration’s program for preparing and equipping specialized response teams to deal with the technical aspects of nuclear or radiological terrorism. NEST capabilities include search and identification of nuclear materials, diagnostics and assessment of suspected nuclear devices, technical operations in support of render safe procedures, and packaging for transport to final disposition.

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[neoolong]

I don't know, fighting giant robots sounds more exciting than that. Does the real NEST get to use grenade launchers and ride around in trucks that transform into robots?

[Old Plympto]

I liked the movie just fine and I'll probably see it again. It may be silly, but my biggest problem was Bumblebee not talking. We got to hear a little of it at the end of the first film and there is no reason he couldn't have talked in the sequel, even mixing in radio speak if the desire arose on his part.

The way Bee didn't speak once the whole movie struck me as weird, too, but I found the way he communicated with the radio charming enough to let it pass. Seriously, in his response to Sam's "if you hate me I'll understand" BB was far more endearing than the twins were for the entirety of the movie.

There was a clip of that scene that they released a few weeks before the movie. I think it was the Showest footage - should be on Youtube somewhere. Bumblebee did speak a line or two with Sam before Sam left the garage. Seems they cut the bit out of the final edit.