Temp bans for Ted and Shep

[weemadando]

You're talking about someone who tried shooting a man in the back. He's never shown any problem with attacking people verbally or physically who can't defend themselves. This doesn't justify other people's behavior, but it does show the irony of the situation.

*whirrrrr d-d-d-d-d-d*

Another dagger in the back of a man who can't post back.

[Stormbringer]

You're talking about someone who tried shooting a man in the back. He's never shown any problem with attacking people verbally or physically who can't defend themselves. This doesn't justify other people's behavior, but it does show the irony of the situation.

*whirrrrr d-d-d-d-d-d*

Another dagger in the back of a man who can't post back.

Who cares? I got banned by his own actions so he can hardly complain if people think poorly of him.

And since when has Shep hesitated to stab (or shoot!) others in the back?

[weemadando]

Shep did NOT shoot anyone in the back. He shot an unarmed man in the front. Fair and square.

[Stormbringer]

Shep did NOT shoot anyone in the back. He shot an unarmed man in the front. Fair and square.

Oh, that's so much better.

And face it, Shep brought this on himself.

[The Dark]

Me either, but I think it's most likely jealousy. I know this sounds really egotistical and arrogant, but frankly I think anyone that "hates" New York without saying why is just jealous. Just like you said, there is nothing seriously wrong with New York. This is what leads me to the conclusion that it's just jealousy. The thing I don't like is how the city is run, but a lot of cities are like that. It's one of the biggest, most populous, most wealthy cities in the world. And they hate it. Hmm....why not hate Hong Kong or Seattle or San Francisco or Tokyo or Los Angeles or Mexico City or Chicago or any other city? Because New York gets the most attention. It's jealousy.

I personally don't like New York City, but that's just because I don't like big cities period. The only ones I'm comfortable in are DC and Philly. I'm from Philly, and DC is the most civil big city I've been in. Taxi drivers actually apologize for having their bumpers in the crosswalk. I've been in Atlanta, LA, San Diego, Pittsburgh, Miami, NYC, and don't like spending time in any of them. A day or two is fine, but I start getting jittery after that long. I'm more suburban than city or country, and I don't care for the high population densities or there being nobody for miles around.

[The Yosemite Bear]

I wish some of my Unfazability, and willingness to be open with just about anybody (Despite the fact I really do dislike people in general), would rub off.

I know, my horrible handwritting, my abilility to look at things from other people's POV, and my annoying insight into how things can happen, I Oughta work as a shrink. On the other hand that would not be a good idea....

I can be very cross when my temper is pushed to far....

[Sonnenburg]

Shep did NOT shoot anyone in the back. He shot an unarmed man in the front. Fair and square.

Yet he has deliberately shot at unarmed combatants who aren't involved in the debates just to try and goad those he's afraid to take on directly.

[Connor MacLeod]

Alright, now you are bashing Shep without giving him a chance to retaliate. That is somewhat cowardly, throwing punches while someone can't defend themselves.

You're talking about someone who tried shooting a man in the back. He's never shown any problem with attacking people verbally or physically who can't defend themselves. This doesn't justify other people's behavior, but it does show the irony of the situation.

Ahem. The only people that cannot defend themselves are Shep and Ted. Nothing is stopping anyone else from posting when one thier 'views' came into play. So, there is no irony here. Either way. I'm sure they can still read the boards and will be reading this regardless.

So? I'm sure people talk shit about me behind my back all the time. What the hell does that matter to me?

[Cal Wright]

That's not the point. The original point was that Shep was attacking people behind thier backs and attacking them when thier down. In that, there was irony with this thread. That this is exactly what is happening to them. However, my point was that there has never been an incident where they were attacking others like that. The only instances would be the temp/perm ban of Raycav and the select few. With that said, there is no irony. Not to mention Shep's masterful use of his sig line to flame another Denizen. I would almost applaud this, but it really shouldn't be done to begin with. Either way, all of this behind the back shit is ludicrous.

[Sonnenburg]

Alright, now you are bashing Shep without giving him a chance to retaliate. That is somewhat cowardly, throwing punches while someone can't defend themselves.

You're talking about someone who tried shooting a man in the back. He's never shown any problem with attacking people verbally or physically who can't defend themselves. This doesn't justify other people's behavior, but it does show the irony of the situation.

Ahem. The only people that cannot defend themselves are Shep and Ted. Nothing is stopping anyone else from posting when one thier 'views' came into play.

Shep has attacked people who aren't participating in the same way that the SB numbnut had that monkey pissing on Mike Wong's wife. In other words, he's attacked people who can't defend themselves against what he says.
And let me point out again: he tried to shoot an unarmed man in the back. Literally.

[weemadando]

Shep has attacked people who aren't participating in the same way that the SB numbnut had that monkey pissing on Mike Wong's wife. In other words, he's attacked people who can't defend themselves against what he says.
And let me point out again: he tried to shoot an unarmed man in the back. Literally.

Chuck, generally I like you, but you are being a total arse right now.

According to prosecutors, the elder Crierie agreed with his ex-wife that the guns would not be kept in her residence, where Ryan Crierie resides, which angered the teen-ager.

After the father threatened to destroy the teen's AR-15 rifle, Mike Crierie drove his son to the Rocking Spring Drive residence, where prosecutors say the teen pretended to retrieve bags from the back seat but got a shotgun out instead.

The teen-ager then ran to the back of a neighbor's home, where he loaded the gun, ran to the front of the house and fired a shot at his father as the man drove off, prosecutors said. Mike Crierie suffered a pellet wound to his eye and ear.

His son ran to a CVS store on Norbeck Drive, where he unloaded the shotgun and handed it to employees, telling them he had just shot his father, prosecutors said.

Get the facts before being fallacious. Hey, thats catchy.

[Stormbringer]

He shot his own goddamned father over a gun? Do you realize how fucking insane that is? How can you defend that nut case?

[IRG CommandoJoe]

I personally don't like New York City, but that's just because I don't like big cities period. The only ones I'm comfortable in are DC and Philly. I'm from Philly, and DC is the most civil big city I've been in. Taxi drivers actually apologize for having their bumpers in the crosswalk. I've been in Atlanta, LA, San Diego, Pittsburgh, Miami, NYC, and don't like spending time in any of them. A day or two is fine, but I start getting jittery after that long. I'm more suburban than city or country, and I don't care for the high population densities or there being nobody for miles around.

There's the difference between you and Shep. He wants to nuke NYC. The only reason I recall of why he hates New York is because "we" make fun out of Southern accents, "we" say that Southern people are all dumbshit rednecks and hicks, and because we are taking a long time to rebuild from 9-11. He basically bashes New York without giving a good reason why.

EDIT: I should add that just because a few people might have said some negative things about Southerners doesn't mean you should condemn the entire state to be a bunch of assholes.

[Sonnenburg]

Shep has attacked people who aren't participating in the same way that the SB numbnut had that monkey pissing on Mike Wong's wife. In other words, he's attacked people who can't defend themselves against what he says.
And let me point out again: he tried to shoot an unarmed man in the back. Literally.

Chuck, generally I like you, but you are being a total arse right now.

Yes, if I'd only just say we should nuke NY I'd be in with the in-crowd.

According to prosecutors, the elder Crierie agreed with his ex-wife that the guns would not be kept in her residence, where Ryan Crierie resides, which angered the teen-ager.

After the father threatened to destroy the teen's AR-15 rifle, Mike Crierie drove his son to the Rocking Spring Drive residence, where prosecutors say the teen pretended to retrieve bags from the back seat but got a shotgun out instead.

The teen-ager then ran to the back of a neighbor's home, where he loaded the gun, ran to the front of the house and fired a shot at his father as the man drove off, prosecutors said. Mike Crierie suffered a pellet wound to his eye and ear.

His son ran to a CVS store on Norbeck Drive, where he unloaded the shotgun and handed it to employees, telling them he had just shot his father, prosecutors said.

Get the facts before being fallacious. Hey, thats catchy.

Trying to shoot someone from behind is not the same as trying to shoot them in the back?

[weemadando]

He shot his own goddamned father over a gun? Do you realize how fucking insane that is? How can you defend that nut case?

I've never tried to defend him for shooting his father. Hell, even I find that a little worrying. What I am doing is making sure that certain people don't get away with what amounts to slander.

[weemadando]

Yes, if I'd only just say we should nuke NY I'd be in with the in-crowd.

Oh, indeed, I hear that military uniforms, big mo's and turbans are the hot thing this season.

Trying to shoot someone from behind is not the same as trying to shoot them in the back?

Behind? Behind? Where the hell did that say anything about behind. And how the hell do you get pellet wounding to the face when you've been shot from behind?

Do we have our very own Warren Commission senator Sonnenburg?

[weemadando]

There's the difference between you and Shep. He wants to nuke NYC. The only reason I recall of why he hates New York is because "we" make fun out of Southern accents, "we" say that Southern people are all dumbshit rednecks and hicks, and because we are taking a long time to rebuild from 9-11. He basically bashes New York without giving a good reason why.

EDIT: I should add that just because a few people might have said some negative things about Southerners doesn't mean you should condemn the entire state to be a bunch of assholes.

Actually I think the big thing is that he's jealous that there aren't any good sitcoms set in Maryland.

[Connor MacLeod]

Ando, chuck, lets knock it off. I hate Shep alot for what he did too, but lets not startt another flame war over it (if nothing, think of the stress it puts on the mods for having to deal with us. Or at least poor Mike.)

[Stormbringer]

He shot his own goddamned father over a gun? Do you realize how fucking insane that is? How can you defend that nut case?

I've never tried to defend him for shooting his father. Hell, even I find that a little worrying. What I am doing is making sure that certain people don't get away with what amounts to slander.

For what? Saying he's a homophobic, racist, physcopath? That isn't news to anyone with their eyes open.

[weemadando]

Ando, chuck, lets knock it off. I hate Shep alot for what he did too, but lets not startt another flame war over it (if nothing, think of the stress it puts on the mods for having to deal with us. Or at least poor Mike.)

Ahah! An appeal to authority and sensibility!

I shall never surrender! Your arguement is fallacious and biased!

[/sarcasm] <- just for those of you who CAN'T tell.

[Cal Wright]

Shep has attacked people who aren't participating in the same way that the SB numbnut had that monkey pissing on Mike Wong's wife. In other words, he's attacked people who can't defend themselves against what he says.
And let me point out again: he tried to shoot an unarmed man in the back. Literally.

Just because someone was NOT participating doesn't mean they couldn't defend themselves. Nothing, I reiterate, nothing is stopping them from posting on this board. However, the temp ban is preventing Shep and Ted from posting. While that may not be in the back, it's sure as hell while they're down.

[Sonnenburg]

Okay, fine. Here's the real deal on Shep.

As an aside, I've taken the opportunity to purchase
a couple of those cheap rats from a pet store, and have
named them Luke and Max, and whenever I get depressed
over ASVS, I take them outside and bat them around, before
getting bored.

To make the point clear (Max and Luke are the names of my then two-year old sons), he stated this:

I would be cheering if a escaped rapist killed you, sodomized your kids mercilessly before killing himself as the cops closed in.

Even if you want to argue semantics with me about the shooting, it should be obvious that he's perfectly willing to attack people who aren't there to defend themselves. And that's just what I can recall off the top of my head.

[weemadando]

He shot his own goddamned father over a gun? Do you realize how fucking insane that is? How can you defend that nut case?

I've never tried to defend him for shooting his father. Hell, even I find that a little worrying. What I am doing is making sure that certain people don't get away with what amounts to slander.

For what? Saying he's a homophobic, racist, physcopath? That isn't news to anyone with their eyes open.

No, but saying that he shot someone in the back is.

Especially when all evidence points to the contrary. In fact, I remember the days when evidence meant something in debates on this board.

[Sonnenburg]

Shep has attacked people who aren't participating in the same way that the SB numbnut had that monkey pissing on Mike Wong's wife. In other words, he's attacked people who can't defend themselves against what he says.
And let me point out again: he tried to shoot an unarmed man in the back. Literally.

Just because someone was NOT participating doesn't mean they couldn't defend themselves. Nothing, I reiterate, nothing is stopping them from posting on this board.

Being unable to read is certainly going to stop them.

[Sonnenburg]

Ando, chuck, lets knock it off. I hate Shep alot for what he did too, but lets not startt another flame war over it (if nothing, think of the stress it puts on the mods for having to deal with us. Or at least poor Mike.)

I'm not interested in a flamewar, but I'm not going to in essence be called a liar and not defend my position. Unless someone can tell me how you can shoot at someone driving away from you and not be aiming at their back, I'm not going to just back down.