KrauserKrauser hyperventilating(Obama's Gates comment)

[Alyeska]

So again, some black guy gets fucked around with by cops, and as usual a horde of people (not surprising, one is Kamikaze Sith) leap to defend the cop against the "evil nigger with an attitude!"

Wow, it's nice to know that absolutely NO progress has happened AT ALL in that arena.

At this point, I've long since accepted that there are in fact some people who could watch a video of a man being literally raped by a police officer, who then looks at the camera and says "I'm raping a human being, and I'm doing it out of malice!", and they would still try and find a reason why it was the victim's fault somehow. Or say the victim had it coming because he's resisting somehow...or whatever.

So here we have one side saying "Maybe he was angry because he was in HIS FUCKING HOUSE and being dicked around with by some cops for no apparent logical reason" and the other side says "It's the victim's fault somehow, he had it coming because he was resisting". Of course, the evidence of this is the cop's word because they never lie, only their victims do.

Frankly this whole discussion is a non-starter. Kamikaze Sith, Krauser and the rest would rather cut off their dicks and eat them than admit a cop could EVER, EVER possibly do anything wrong. Oh they try and pretend like they could accept it as a possibility but it's as far from their minds as possible. And that is why black people get repeatedly fucked up by cops and NO ONE ever fucking tries to tie these people's hands so they can't do this shit anymore. Really has anything changed at all since Diallo got his brains shot out by some cops...no of course not. Because that was his fault too, right Krauser? Fucking nigger he should have known his wallet was gun shaped!

And don't fucking DARE tell me I'm over reacting you asswipes, this whole thing is about a bunch of white people over reacting to a black man in his own house, including this thread, so fuck you I'm damn well over reacting because you don't seem to absorb information unless someone pours it down your fucking throats. I'm sick of people who tell me that racism is some illusion I'm experiencing, why don't you go experience the illusion of choking to death on dick since dick is all you know about what racism is actually like...and I'm not even experiencing the worst of it just the tail end of some smug, stupid white college kids who think they're more enlightened then the people who blew Emit Till away because they one time shook a black guy's hand.

To be blunt, its clear you haven't read the thread at all and have started spouting off bullshit excuses for what you think they said. Do not misrepresent what other people have said, and do read a thread before jumping to conclusions.

[Ryan Thunder]

Yes, you are. After all, you just assumed that all of this ended "decades before [you were] even born". The fact is that old-school Anglo-Saxon racism persists; a person with an Anglo-Saxon name is much more likely to get called for a job interview than a person with an "ethnic" surname, even if their resumes are otherwise identical.

So fucking what? I have to ask my Indian boss to renew my contract when he gushes over the work I do for them. This is not unreasonable in and of itself, but he approaches my Indian coworker (who's pretty good at what he does, mind you, but he's said that he doesn't consider his skillset to be superior to my own at all) to ask him if he wants his contract renewed without prompting. Another Indian coworker is a grossly incompetent pathological liar, who has routinely failed to measure up to expectations, and yet still remains on payroll in spite of having been chewed out numerous times by my boss. I'm not going to test it, for obvious reasons, but if I were half this bad they'd fire my ass in a second.

The road runs both ways.

It's so easy for you to dismiss that whole history, isn't it? "Get over it", you say. That is precisely what makes you a smug white fucker.

Because it doesn't fucking work that way any more, goddamnit. Good fucking grief, what does it take to get that through your skulls? Racism is no longer protected by law, all that's left is a few old troglodytes who haven't got the message yet.

Hey, I used to get beat up by black kids in elementary school. Does this mean I get to have a chip on my shoulder about race and take out my frustration on every black male in earshot? Fuck no. You know what I do? I move the fuck on and get on with my life, now that we're past that.

I'm often the first person to say that a lot of black cultural attitudes in the US are logically counterproductive, but that doesn't mean I'm going to casually dismiss their anger or their resentment, the way a smug white fucker like yourself does.

How is it "casually [dismissing] their anger or resentment" when I hold him responsible for verbally assaulting an officer who was checking out his house to make sure nobody was carting off his stuff?

This is like me flipping out on a guy I met earlier because he's in a position where he could theoretically punch me, and then say it was because I got beat up by black kids when I was in Grade 7. That shit doesn't float and neither does this.

[CarsonPalmer]

Because it doesn't fucking work that way any more, goddamnit. Good fucking grief, what does it take to get that through your skulls? Racism is no longer protected by law, all that's left is a few old troglodytes who haven't got the message yet.

You really don't get it, do you? You don't even realize the casual racism, unspoken and unnoticed, that still exists in such massive numbers throughout the United States, especially in the South and in the suburbs. Its more than just a few old troglodytes, you knucklehead.

Hey, I used to get beat up by black kids in elementary school. Does this mean I get to have a chip on my shoulder about race and take out my frustration on every black male in earshot? Fuck no. You know what I do? I move the fuck on and get on with my life, now that we're past that.

Did you really just compare being beat up by black kids in elementary school to being born in a system where everything, from drinking fountains to swimming pools, was used to make sure that the black folk knew that they were second-class citizens, that the worst white man was always better than the best black man? If you did, you're a complete and total idiot.

[Ryan Thunder]

Did you really just compare being beat up by black kids in elementary school to being born in a system where everything, from drinking fountains to swimming pools, was used to make sure that the black folk knew that they were second-class citizens, that the worst white man was always better than the best black man? If you did, you're a complete and total idiot.

Clearly my point went whistling right over your head. Then. is. not. now. Past abuse by people does not justify giving shit to people who have the misfortune to look like your past abusers. Because just like there was fuck all you could do to change your skin colour, there's fuck all I can do to change mine, and I refuse to accept responsibility, punishment, or attitude for something I didn't do, and would never do.

[Aaron]

You really don't get it, do you? You don't even realize the casual racism, unspoken and unnoticed, that still exists in such massive numbers throughout the United States, especially in the South and in the suburbs. Its more than just a few old troglodytes, you knucklehead.

He's Canadian and young, it's really hard to conceive for people up here just how bad it was for blacks because we never had problems with racism to the extent that the Americans did. So before people cover Thunder in shit keep in mind that he likely has no idea what it is still like South of us.

[Darth Wong]

So fucking what? I have to ask my Indian boss to renew my contract when he gushes over the work I do for them. This is not unreasonable in and of itself, but he approaches my Indian coworker (who's pretty good at what he does, mind you, but he's said that he doesn't consider his skillset to be superior to my own at all) to ask him if he wants his contract renewed without prompting. Another Indian coworker is a grossly incompetent pathological liar, who has routinely failed to measure up to expectations, and yet still remains on payroll in spite of having been chewed out numerous times by my boss. I'm not going to test it, for obvious reasons, but if I were half this bad they'd fire my ass in a second.

The road runs both ways.

You did exactly as I predicted. You started going on about "reverse racism" against the poor White Man. Based on personal anecdotes, of course.

It's so easy for you to dismiss that whole history, isn't it? "Get over it", you say. That is precisely what makes you a smug white fucker.

Because it doesn't fucking work that way any more, goddamnit. Good fucking grief, what does it take to get that through your skulls? Racism is no longer protected by law, all that's left is a few old troglodytes who haven't got the message yet.

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I await your concession, fucktard.

Hey, I used to get beat up by black kids in elementary school. Does this mean I get to have a chip on my shoulder about race and take out my frustration on every black male in earshot? Fuck no. You know what I do? I move the fuck on and get on with my life, now that we're past that.

Black kids also got beat up by black kids in elementary school, moron.

This is like me flipping out on a guy I met earlier because he's in a position where he could theoretically punch me, and then say it was because I got beat up by black kids when I was in Grade 7. That shit doesn't float and neither does this.

Do you have any idea what Gates' youth would have been like, you goddamned ignorant piece of shit?

[Ryan Thunder]

You did exactly as I predicted. You started going on about "reverse racism" against the poor White Man. Based on personal anecdotes, of course.

Your inane use of the term "reverse racism" implies that there's some kind of difference between "white" racism and racism directed by any other group, so I'm gonna say you're full of shit.

It's so easy for you to dismiss that whole history, isn't it? "Get over it", you say. That is precisely what makes you a smug white fucker.

Because it doesn't fucking work that way any more, goddamnit. Good fucking grief, what does it take to get that through your skulls? Racism is no longer protected by law, all that's left is a few old troglodytes who haven't got the message yet.

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I await your concession, fucktard.

You're gonna be waiting a while, then. The law is set up to compensate for that, because its assumed that all "white" people in positions of authority are either overtly or subconciously racist. Actually, no, sorry, its assumed that the vast majority of "white" people in general are either overtly or subconciously racist, because otherwise they'd have to, y'know, demonstrate that a particular establishment has racist hiring practices, instead of getting to assume they're guilty of it by default.

Note that they didn't look at the racial composition of the folks they forwarded the resumes to, either.

Also, note that they had to do a goddamned study of the issue to even notice that anything was amiss.

Hey, I used to get beat up by black kids in elementary school. Does this mean I get to have a chip on my shoulder about race and take out my frustration on every black male in earshot? Fuck no. You know what I do? I move the fuck on and get on with my life, now that we're past that.

Black kids also got beat up by black kids in elementary school, moron.

Which is totally beside the point, and you know it. Abuse is abuse.

Do you have any idea what Gates' youth would have been like, you goddamned ignorant piece of shit?

Probably not. But that doesn't matter, because the officer had nothing to do with it.

Are we gonna let folks who happen to be Jewish abuse police officers who happen to be German because the Nazis had death camps thousands of miles away in Europe, sixty fucking years ago? Because that's even more recent than slavery.

Oh and what if the officer's mother was "black" and his father was "white"? Does this guy get a free pass to verbally assault him, too, or is he off limits?

Is Thanas a "smug German fucker" if he doesn't want to put up with shit from Jews for being German because he's, y'know, not a Nazi bastard?

How can you not see how ridiculous this rapidly becomes when applied to anything else?

[Darth Wong]

Your inane use of the term "reverse racism" implies that there's some kind of difference between "white" racism and racism directed by any other group, so I'm gonna say you're full of shit.

Oh that's good, ignore the point because of word choices. Logic fallacy #1.

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I await your concession, fucktard.

You're gonna be waiting a while, then. The law is set up to compensate for that, because its assumed that all "white" people in positions of authority are either overtly or subconciously racist. Actually, no, sorry, its assumed that the vast majority of "white" people in general are either overtly or subconciously racist, because otherwise they'd have to, y'know, demonstrate that a particular establishment has racist hiring practices, instead of getting to assume they're guilty of it by default.

Note that they didn't look at the racial composition of the folks they forwarded the resumes to, either.

None of your weaseling bullshit changes the fact that racism is widespread and pervasive, as proven by this study, you dishonest little shit. All you've provided by way of evidence is your own personal claims, while I have provided an actual study, which proves that if you have the wrong name, you are far less likely to get a callback. Your idiotic claims about the death of racism are quite simply WRONG, and you are squirming about trying to avoid conceding the obvious.

Also, note that they had to do a goddamned study of the issue to even notice that anything was amiss.

Again you demonstrate your stupidity. They had to do a study to prove what they already suspected. Why the fuck do you think they did this study if they weren't expecting anything? And what the fuck does it say about you, that you have this study shoved in your face and you will STILL repeat your asinine claim that racism is history?

Hey, I used to get beat up by black kids in elementary school. Does this mean I get to have a chip on my shoulder about race and take out my frustration on every black male in earshot? Fuck no. You know what I do? I move the fuck on and get on with my life, now that we're past that.

Black kids also got beat up by black kids in elementary school, moron.

Which is totally beside the point, and you know it. Abuse is abuse.

Truly, your stupidity knows no bounds. You don't even understand the point I was making, do you?

Do you have any idea what Gates' youth would have been like, you goddamned ignorant piece of shit?

Probably not. But that doesn't matter, because the officer had nothing to do with it.

Don't change the subject, asshole. You claimed that Gates had no right to feel the way he felt about the situation, because racism is a thing of the past. You're wrong, and wrong. We're not arguing about the police officer; we're arguing about Gates, and your idiotic notion that Gates has no special reason to have a chip on his shoulder about racism.

Are we gonna let folks who happen to be Jewish abuse police officers who happen to be German because the Nazis had death camps thousands of miles away in Europe, sixty fucking years ago? Because that's even more recent than slavery.

Oh and what if the officer's mother was "black" and his father was "white"? Does this guy get a free pass to verbally assault him, too, or is he off limits?

Is Thanas a "smug German fucker" if he doesn't want to put up with shit from Jews for being German because he's, y'know, not a Nazi bastard?

How can you not see how ridiculous this rapidly becomes when applied to anything else?

Again, you resort to assuming that racism against visible minorities is a thing of the past, despite evidence being produced to falsify this assumption. Your behaviour in this thread is veering toward "wall of ignorance" bullshit. Either address the evidence and incorporate that revelation into your argument, or concede the fucking claim instead of mindlessly repeating it.

PS. Germans actually do accept certain restrictions because of their national history. For example, Nazi speech is illegal; their freedom of expression has an explicit exception written into it. And any German who told a Jewish Holocaust survivor to just "get over it" or who argued that any Jew with a chip on his shoulder about Germany is a douchebag would indeed be a smug German prick. In fact, anyone who said something like that would probably come under instant suspicion for being a Nazi sympathizer.

[Ryan Thunder]

None of your weaseling bullshit changes the fact that racism is widespread and pervasive, as proven by this study, you dishonest little shit. All you've provided by way of evidence is your own personal claims, while I have provided an actual study, which proves that if you have the wrong name, you are far less likely to get a callback. Your idiotic claims about the death of racism are quite simply WRONG, and you are squirming about trying to avoid conceding the obvious.

Because I'm not a goddamned racist. But I am a member of a visible majority, which seems to mean that I should say it's A-OK for people to hate me for things I have nothing to do with and cannot affect, much less control.

Which sort of means that I have a choice between A) denying that the things I can't control are a problem and B) taking the heaps of shit thrown at me with a smile.

For the record, fuck option B...

[Samuel]

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I await your concession, fucktard.

This would be a better example:

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[Darth Wong]

None of your weaseling bullshit changes the fact that racism is widespread and pervasive, as proven by this study, you dishonest little shit. All you've provided by way of evidence is your own personal claims, while I have provided an actual study, which proves that if you have the wrong name, you are far less likely to get a callback. Your idiotic claims about the death of racism are quite simply WRONG, and you are squirming about trying to avoid conceding the obvious.

Because I'm not a goddamned racist. But I am a member of a visible majority, which seems to mean that I should say it's A-OK for people to hate me for things I have nothing to do with and cannot affect, much less control.

YOU STILL BENEFIT FROM THEM, YOU GODDAMNED PIECE OF SHIT What part of this do you not understand? If you have an Anglo-Saxon surname, you have an automatically increased likelihood of getting a job interview than someone with my surname. And don't tell yourself this advantage doesn't extend into the interview process as well; if people consistently discriminate on the callbacks, they probably discriminate on the interviews too.

[Ryan Thunder]

YOU STILL BENEFIT FROM THEM, YOU GODDAMNED PIECE OF SHIT What part of this do you not understand? If you have an Anglo-Saxon surname, you have an automatically increased likelihood of getting a job interview than someone with my surname. And don't tell yourself this advantage doesn't extend into the interview process as well; if people consistently discriminate on the callbacks, they probably discriminate on the interviews too.

Yeah, so what the fuck do you want me to do about it?

I have no control over this. But I should accept that people hate me for it anyway? What the fuck?

No. I'm not going to accept that any more than you'd accept some mouth-breather hating you because your last name is "Wong".

[Darth Wong]

I have no control over this. But I should accept that people hate me for it anyway? What the fuck?

No, you stupid cunt. You're supposed to accept that visible minorities have a right to be pissed off about it. How goddamned stupid are you, that I have to lead you by the hand to such a simple fucking conclusion?

That's the whole fucking subject of our dispute, remember? The fact that visible minorities do have a right to be pissed off about race relations, in a way that a smug white asshole like yourself does not understand. The fact that I had to beat you over the head with evidence of racism before you would even slightly back off is proof of this.

Not every white person is a smug white fucker. But you certainly are.

[Kamakazie Sith]

YOU STILL BENEFIT FROM THEM, YOU GODDAMNED PIECE OF SHIT What part of this do you not understand? If you have an Anglo-Saxon surname, you have an automatically increased likelihood of getting a job interview than someone with my surname. And don't tell yourself this advantage doesn't extend into the interview process as well; if people consistently discriminate on the callbacks, they probably discriminate on the interviews too.

Yeah, so what the fuck do you want me to do about it?

I have no control over this. But I should accept that people hate me for it anyway? What the fuck?

I think he wants you to concede that it is possible for Gates, and african americans in general, to be justified in having a chip on their shoulder. He's not saying that gives them free license to act like complete assholes. He even stated earlier in this thread that he thought Gates was acting stupid by being so confrontation with Crowley.

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This is also why I hold Crowley mostly responsible for allowing the situation to go down the road it did. I mean responsible in the sense that he didn't have to book Gates into jail for such a small issue. Crowley in effect created the media feeding frenzy.

[Kamakazie Sith]

I tend to agree, there is also the matter of the police report not only contradicting Gates account, but also the public statement of the witness that made the call.

The public statement released by Whalen's attorney is weird to me. The focus of Whalen and her attorney as her attorney put it "to clear my clients name" was to make sure everyone knew she didn't mention the color of skin. Why is that such a big deal? When you're giving a good suspect description you help police do their job. You're not being racist when you say that there are two black people wearing such and such attempting to break into this home using their shoulders you're simply reporting what you see.

[General Zod]

I tend to agree, there is also the matter of the police report not only contradicting Gates account, but also the public statement of the witness that made the call.

The public statement released by Whalen's attorney is weird to me. The focus of Whalen and her attorney as her attorney put it "to clear my clients name" was to make sure everyone knew she didn't mention the color of skin. Why is that such a big deal? When you're giving a good suspect description you help police do their job. You're not being racist when you say that there are two black people wearing such and such attempting to break into this home using their shoulders you're simply reporting what you see.

I could see a defense attorney trying to twist the words involved to mean that the color of their clients skin was the primary reason the police were called as opposed to anything else. Making sure that it wasn't mentioned means they don't have wiggle room.

[Ryan Thunder]

I have no control over this. But I should accept that people hate me for it anyway? What the fuck?

No, you stupid cunt. You're supposed to accept that visible minorities have a right to be pissed off about it. How goddamned stupid are you, that I have to lead you by the hand to such a simple fucking conclusion?

That's the whole fucking subject of our dispute, remember? The fact that visible minorities do have a right to be pissed off about race relations, in a way that a smug white asshole like yourself does not understand. The fact that I had to beat you over the head with evidence of racism before you would even slightly back off is proof of this.

No, my statements should make it pretty obvious that I thought we were arguing over whether it was OK for them to direct their anger at "white" people in general regardless of whether or not they were actually racist because of past racism by other "white" people.

Of course they have a right to be pissed off by it. Just... not at me...

[Kamakazie Sith]

I could see a defense attorney trying to twist the words involved to mean that the color of their clients skin was the primary reason the police were called as opposed to anything else. Making sure that it wasn't mentioned means they don't have wiggle room.

Even if racism was the prime factor police still have to respond when 911 is dialed *see example* and it's the officers job to determine the facts and make an arrest if a crime has been committed. If it happened enough or there was probable cause to show that this caller was calling in fake emergency calls then we could cite that person for abuse of emergency services.

Basically, what I'm trying to say is even if the inital caller was head of the KKK if the subsequent investigation showed that the two suspects were in a home that they didn't belong it wouldn't matter what the callers reasoning was because it is the police who made the arrest. I understand what you're saying though.

Example - All cell phones can call 911 even if they aren't attached to an account. We respond to thousands of misdialed "I let my kid play with my "deactived" cell phone calls" per week even though nothing was said or heard by the dispatcher and it's obviously a deactivated phone.

[Darth Wong]

This is also why I hold Crowley mostly responsible for allowing the situation to go down the road it did. I mean responsible in the sense that he didn't have to book Gates into jail for such a small issue. Crowley in effect created the media feeding frenzy.

The big problem I have with Crowley is that he knew he had stopped and questioned an older black man in his own home. An honest mistake, but the guy teaches racial sensitivity, right? If that's the case, he should damned well know how a black man might be prone to fly off the handle at being questioned by cops on his own property (cops who were still suspicious enough even after seeing his ID that they had to call the Harvard security staff to confirm it; imagine what Gates is thinking while they're making that call). So why didn't he just walk away? I'm guessing that he just had a case of the "you shouldn't be disrespecting me" attitude.

[Darth Wong]

No, my statements should make it pretty obvious that I thought we were arguing over whether it was OK for them to direct their anger at "white" people in general regardless of whether or not they were actually racist because of past racism by other "white" people.

Of course they have a right to be pissed off by it. Just... not at me...

White people (including you) get special bonuses in life that they don't get, you fucking idiot. Just because you're white. And you actually have the gall to tell black people to get over it, because racism is all ancient history. Why shouldn't they be pissed off at you? You even tried to compare Gates' history growing up as a black man in the south to an incident when you got beat up by some black kid in school. Black people have every right to be pissed off at YOU in particular. You're exactly the sort of twat who complains about "reverse racism" and acts as if white men are under siege.

[Kamakazie Sith]

The big problem I have with Crowley is that he knew he had stopped and questioned an older black man in his own home. An honest mistake, but the guy teaches racial sensitivity, right? If that's the case, he should damned well know how a black man might be prone to fly off the handle at being questioned by cops on his own property (cops who were still suspicious enough even after seeing his ID that they had to call the Harvard security staff to confirm it; imagine what Gates is thinking while they're making that call). So why didn't he just walk away? I'm guessing that he just had a case of the "you shouldn't be disrespecting me" attitude.

Crowley could have taken Gates remarks as deeply offensive and felt obligated to defend himself, but yeah basically we come back to the "you shouldn't be disrespecting me" attitude. I think Obama put it best when he said that you have two good people letting the situation get the best of them.

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I don't know what is on his ID but a lot of people don't maintain their current address so it is possible that they contacted Harvard police because they would keep a current roster. However, that's stretching it because had I been there I'd just ask for a piece of mail with his name on it and the house address if for some reason I wasn't able to verify that from his ID.

[Ryan Thunder]

(cops who were still suspicious enough even after seeing his ID that they had to call the Harvard security staff to confirm it).

Well that sounds like a massive fuckup on their part...

White people (including you) get special bonuses in life that they don't get, you fucking idiot. Just because you're white.

It'd be nice if I actually got to see any of these bonuses myself. It sounds like they'd be pretty handy.

But individuals never vary from the norm, I guess.

[ArmorPierce]

You really don't get it, do you? You don't even realize the casual racism, unspoken and unnoticed, that still exists in such massive numbers throughout the United States, especially in the South and in the suburbs. Its more than just a few old troglodytes, you knucklehead.

He's Canadian and young, it's really hard to conceive for people up here just how bad it was for blacks because we never had problems with racism to the extent that the Americans did. So before people cover Thunder in shit keep in mind that he likely has no idea what it is still like South of us.

I believe in former post he actually stated that he lives in the United States as well and goes back and forth.

You did exactly as I predicted. You started going on about "reverse racism" against the poor White Man. Based on personal anecdotes, of course.

Your inane use of the term "reverse racism" implies that there's some kind of difference between "white" racism and racism directed by any other group, so I'm gonna say you're full of shit.

There is a big difference between racism from the group in power and racism from the group that is opressed.

It's so easy for you to dismiss that whole history, isn't it? "Get over it", you say. That is precisely what makes you a smug white fucker.

Because it doesn't fucking work that way any more, goddamnit. Good fucking grief, what does it take to get that through your skulls? Racism is no longer protected by law, all that's left is a few old troglodytes who haven't got the message yet.

You're gonna be waiting a while, then. The law is set up to compensate for that, because its assumed that all "white" people in positions of authority are either overtly or subconciously racist. Actually, no, sorry, its assumed that the vast majority of "white" people in general are either overtly or subconciously racist, because otherwise they'd have to, y'know, demonstrate that a particular establishment has racist hiring practices, instead of getting to assume they're guilty of it by default.

Note that they didn't look at the racial composition of the folks they forwarded the resumes to, either.

Also, note that they had to do a goddamned study of the issue to even notice that anything was amiss.

Did you seriously dismiss the issue as not being that great because they needed a study to prove that people's notions that white men were the most discriminated group is a load of shit and it's the other way around?

Yes, there are laws and things such as affirmative action to counter it. Apparently, it isn't completely effective. It doesn't matter what the racial composition of the folks that they forwarded the resumes to.

[Darth Wong]

White people (including you) get special bonuses in life that they don't get, you fucking idiot. Just because you're white.

It'd be nice if I actually got to see any of these bonuses myself. It sounds like they'd be pretty handy.

But individuals never vary from the norm, I guess.

You just won't concede the point, will you? A study is produced which shows widespread pervasive racial selection bias in interview callbacks, and you just wave your hand and say that you don't personally benefit from this at all. Bullshit. I would love to have an instant 50% bonus increase in my likelihood of getting called back on resumes.

[ArmorPierce]

White people (including you) get special bonuses in life that they don't get, you fucking idiot. Just because you're white.

It'd be nice if I actually got to see any of these bonuses myself. It sounds like they'd be pretty handy.

But individuals never vary from the norm, I guess.

You just won't concede the point, will you? A study is produced which shows widespread pervasive racial selection bias in interview callbacks, and you just wave your hand and say that you don't personally benefit from this at all. Bullshit. I would love to have an instant 50% bonus increase in my likelihood of getting called back on resumes.

The problem is that racism is so hard to prove because people could just wave their hands and have different cause to it like saying black people are just uppity or that they don't know how to act. This is one of the few instances where you can statistically prove it with no hand waving. Let me add that even the people that conducted the research expected to find that "reverse-racism" was in play and that white people were disadvantaged.

Since racism is so common in the job selection process, it would be prudent to assume that this extends to other avenues of life.