Gears of War - Jacinto's Remnant

[Mr. Sinister]

Question. Is this shit rampant throughout the entire comic series or just this one issue? Because I read some of the earlier comics and they seemed pretty decent. I just want to know if I should just avoid this issue like the plague or just drop the series all together.

[Peptuck]

Question. Is this shit rampant throughout the entire comic series or just this one issue? Because I read some of the earlier comics and they seemed pretty decent. I just want to know if I should just avoid this issue like the plague or just drop the series all together.

Issues 1-8 are actually decent. The one involving Tai - Issue 7 - has a little bit of tribal warrior wank but its otherwise really damn good, and Issue 8, the one about Johnathan Harper, is meh, but overall the series is pretty good.

The first part of "Barren" is Issue 9, and is complete and utter shit.

[Natorgator]

Okay, I'll admit I facepalmed about the breeding camp parts. There is only one line about it in the latest book so it wasn't something I really picked up on.

What do the comics cover, is it just backstories about each particular character?

[Peptuck]

1-6 is about Delta Squad between Gow and GoW2. It gives some insight into Corporal Jace Stratton, who appears briefly in GoW2 during the second act, and is a recurring character in the comics. It also has Barrick, a Gear who is suffering from rustlung who also has one of the most badass death scenes ever.

7 is about Tai, how he was recruited during the Pendulum Wars, and his thoughts and motivations when he commits suicide. Its probably the best one.

8 is about Johnathan Harper and how he was captured by the Locust and managed to escape. It's meh.

9 is....yeah.

[TheMuffinKing]

I picked up the book last night and I am really enjoying it. So far Traviss' characterizations seem very close to what was portrayed in game and almost seem like a natural extension of the character. There are some minor issues, but I can't remember them at the moment. So far it seems like quite an enjoyable read.

[Natorgator]

1-6 is about Delta Squad between Gow and GoW2. It gives some insight into Corporal Jace Stratton, who appears briefly in GoW2 during the second act, and is a recurring character in the comics. It also has Barrick, a Gear who is suffering from rustlung who also has one of the most badass death scenes ever.

7 is about Tai, how he was recruited during the Pendulum Wars, and his thoughts and motivations when he commits suicide. Its probably the best one.

8 is about Johnathan Harper and how he was captured by the Locust and managed to escape. It's meh.

9 is....yeah.

Cool. Was there any insight on what the Locust actually do to people to make them end up as mere shells of their former selves? Figured it had to be something pretty fucked up to make Tai step out and take his head off without a word.

[Stark]

They torture them. Are you fucking stupid? The change in their policies - linked the to rise of the Kantus monks politically - is EXPRESSLY STATED.

[Natorgator]

Well of course they fucking torture them, jackass. I always thought that it was something super fucked up that was never stated.

[Stark]

Yeah, no shit; they hang people from chains mounted directly into their flesh, remove areas of skin, beat them, starve them, keep them locked in boxe, slowly crush them with weights etc.

Are you some kind of torture fetishist?

[Natorgator]

Actually I was thinking it was something mental since it was turning people into veritable zombies. But thanks for your insinuation.

I got some of the comics, pretty good so far. Definitely an enjoyable read, although each seems to be pretty short.

[Setzer]

The whole point of emplyoing women in war related tasks was to free men up for the front lines. If the COG can afford to keep women in one role and one role only, then the situation is nowhere near as desperate as the games would have us think.

[Havok]

The whole point of emplyoing women in war related tasks was to free men up for the front lines. If the COG can afford to keep women in one role and one role only, then the situation is nowhere near as desperate as the games would have us think.

Except that the games are the source material, not the novels, which apparently are crap.

[loomer]

If they can keep former soldiers in prisons were the inmates are sometimes tortured to death, and feed them well (Fenix's state at the beginning of the first game does not indicate malnutrition), then the situation must also not be as desperate as it would appear.

Every man who can fight, in such straits, could be employed in a far better role than to rot in a prison, guard the prisoners, feed the prisoners, oversee the prison's operations, maintain a standard of medical treatment for the prisoners... For even a hundred prisoners we're looking at five or six support staff - all of whom could be better used fighting the war.

Give the prisoners nothing but sidearms and knives and send them in as shock troops in a human wave, at gunpoint. Instead of consuming food and giving nothing back, they help soften the impact of Locust forces in an area that way. Cut their rations down to the bare minimum if you MUST keep them incarcerated, and supplement it with the corpses of dead inmates - or even export that to the populace as a whole.

Yeah, still rehashing my earlier point of 'if you go grimdark, go all the way'.

[Stark]

Yeah it turns out the novels suck balls? Try saying it more, you might feel smarter.

[Setzer]

I mainly meant it as emphasis on how the novel and comic writers seem to be playing a different game from everyone else.

[Stark]

They are. They're playing the EU game, which is always like this - a subset of obsessive completionist brandslaves will buy it, everyone else won't. Not only are the books crap but Epic obviously doesn't consider them even remotely canon, so what's the point?

Brandslave completionism. I forgot.

[Setzer]

Oh great. EU crap is what ruined Star Wars for me. I'm glad I've only played the games. It seems looking at anything else will only end in a pile of shit.

[CaptHawkeye]

It's been said before , but it's clear from the games that Jacinto is the last SANCTUARY, not the last human surface area. We know how big Jacinto is now, and it ain't big enough to sustain the military they've got.

Ergo, Hawx and I are smarter than Karen Travis.

Their was a grand total of, what, 3 skyscrapers in that city? Spread over an area maybe 1-2 miles wide? No fucking way the COG was maintaining an Army like the one they had off that dinky little town.

Their was also no spaceport or visible airfields. How the hell do they maintain the Hammer of Dawn Grid without that? Answer? They don't. Jacinto just isn't the last human civilization center. Hell it's clearly stated in the games even! Their are millions of people who live beyond Jacinto in the broken ruins of older human cities. These cities can clearly be attacked by the Locust, but the humans living there are still alive. So clearly the Locust do NOT dominate the surface like the fan nerds would have us believe.

Jacinto was simply the last major human city that was largely untouched by the war. It's loss will hurt morale, but it will hardly mean the end of days for COG.