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Psychopaths have faulty brain connections: study

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Kinda obvious really...
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LONDON (Reuters) - Psychopaths who kill and rape have faulty connections between the part of the brain dealing with emotions and that which handles impulses and decision-making, scientists have found.

In a study of psychopaths who had committed murder, manslaughter, multiple rape, strangulation and false imprisonment, the British scientists found that roads linking the two crucial brain areas had "potholes," while those of non-psychopaths were in good shape.

The study opens up the possibility of developing treatments for dangerous psychopaths in the future, said Dr Michael Craig of the Institute of Psychiatry at King's College London, and may have profound implications for doctors, researchers and the criminal justice system.

"These were particular serious offenders with psychopathy and without any other mental illnesses," he told Reuters in an interview.

"Essentially what we found is that the connections in the psychopaths were not as good as the connections in the non-psychopaths. I would describe them as roads between the two areas -- and we found that in the psychopaths, the roads had potholes and weren't very well maintained."

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The scientists cautioned against suggestions the study could lead to screening of potential psychopathic criminals before they are able to commit crimes, saying their findings had not established how, when or why the brain links were damaged.

"The most exciting question now...is when do the potholes come -- are people born with them, do they develop early in life, or are they a consequence of something else?"

Psychopathic extremes have been portrayed in Hollywood blockbusters by characters like the serial killer and cannibal Hannibal Lecter. Psychopaths often violate social norms, are manipulative, impulsive and sensation-seeking, and appear to feel no empathy or remorse.

Craig, who conducted the study, published in the journal Molecular Psychiatry with colleagues Declan Murphy and Dr Marco Catani, stressed that the numbers in the brain scan study were small, with only nine psychopaths analyzed and compared with nine non-psychopaths.

"Trying to get people of this particular type to take part in a study, and also then deal with all the security you need to get them into a brain scanner, is not an easy feat," he said.

The study used new brain imaging technology to further analyze psychopaths' brains after previous studies found that the amygdala part of the brain, which processes emotions, and orbitofrontal cortex, which handles impulses and decisions, are structurally and functionally different in psychopaths.

"Up until recently the technology hasn't been available to look at the connections between those two brain areas in any meaningful way," Craig said.

But a new technique, called diffusion tensor magnetic resonance imaging (DT-MRI), allowed the researchers to look at the white matter tract linking the two key brain areas.

As well as finding clear structural deficits in the tract in psychopathic brains, they also found the degree of abnormality was significantly linked to the degree of psychopathy.

"As for the moral significance for society, and how society wants to deal with these things, that is a little premature," said Craig. "This is a small study and the important thing it raises is that more research needs to be done."

(Editing by Kevin Liffey)
Absolutely fascinating, and if it bored out with a wider cross-section, it raises many possibilities.


Obviously, Psychopaths are dangerous, and the very definition of violent offender. Should we use a more conclusive study for grounds for checking out criminials brains to see if they are a danger or not?

Can these 'pot holes' be repaired? What causes them?

A more interesting question; Do all people with these potholes become psychopaths? If so, should be be screening people to keep them under observation? Especially say, children?
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But ... but ... wasn't it clearly established that psychopaths do evil things because they are influenced by SATAN? This neurology study must be wrong! Or perhaps ... the researchers are trying to COVER UP the evidence of SATAN!!!!
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Darth Wong wrote:But ... but ... wasn't it clearly established that psychopaths do evil things because they are influenced by SATAN? This neurology study must be wrong! Or perhaps ... the researchers are trying to COVER UP the evidence of SATAN!!!!
it's okay Mike, the nutty-religious types won't listen anyway...
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Darth Wong wrote:But ... but ... wasn't it clearly established that psychopaths do evil things because they are influenced by SATAN? This neurology study must be wrong! Or perhaps ... the researchers are trying to COVER UP the evidence of SATAN!!!!
I'm just wondering how long until the paranoid nutters start spinning this to say that "evil atheist scientists" are trying to use this new knowledge to try and change people's brains so they become docile and subservient to their government masters.
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In a study of psychopaths who had committed murder, manslaughter, multiple rape, strangulation and false imprisonment,
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stressed that the numbers in the brain scan study were small, with only nine psychopaths analyzed and compared with nine non-psychopaths.
Is that a large enough sample? This just seems to be confirmation of the obvious. Now, when they have a couple hundred and they have the exact parts and how to change them... well, England might have a chance to permanently deal with its anti-social behavior problem.

Does anyone know if sociopaths prefer being sociopaths- how much resistance do people have to having their personalities fundamentally altered?
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Samuel wrote:
In a study of psychopaths who had committed murder, manslaughter, multiple rape, strangulation and false imprisonment,
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I would expect crimes like kidnapping and restraining someone against their will (ropes and such) fall under the "false imprisonment" definition, not that they're necessarily falsely imprisoned themselves.
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General Zod wrote:I'm just wondering how long until the paranoid nutters start spinning this to say that "evil atheist scientists" are trying to use this new knowledge to try and change people's brains so they become docile and subservient to their government masters.
Ahhh, wonder how long until someone develops such a technology, but advertises it as turning people into devout believers, thus earning the support of conservatives worldwide. Hmmmm, maybe I should add this to my list of World Domination Schemes.

As for the OP, if the anomalies can eventually be fixed, I reckon it'll be tough for the ex-psycho to handle the idea of what he did or what he was. Although it might also bring some insight into how such minds work, as he might be able to remember his state of mind before the operation.
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General Zod wrote:
Samuel wrote:
In a study of psychopaths who had committed murder, manslaughter, multiple rape, strangulation and false imprisonment,
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I would expect crimes like kidnapping and restraining someone against their will (ropes and such) fall under the "false imprisonment" definition, not that they're necessarily falsely imprisoned themselves.
Maybe it's a commentary on the faults of the penal system being caused by a mental disorder on the part of the judges? Wouldn't suprise me in some cases. :)
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General Zod wrote:I'm just wondering how long until the paranoid nutters start spinning this to say that "evil atheist scientists" are trying to use this new knowledge to try and change people's brains so they become docile and subservient to their government masters.
Ahhh, wonder how long until someone develops such a technology, but advertises it as turning people into devout believers, thus earning the support of conservatives worldwide. Hmmmm, maybe I should add this to my list of World Domination Schemes.

As for the OP, if the anomalies can eventually be fixed, I reckon it'll be tough for the ex-psycho to handle the idea of what he did or what he was. Although it might also bring some insight into how such minds work, as he might be able to remember his state of mind before the operation.
We can already do that with drugs and indoctrination. We can't make sociopaths care about other human beings... yet.
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Suppose it can't be fixed. What do we do with them if they do commit a crime? Lock them all up for life?
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Bellator wrote:Suppose it can't be fixed. What do we do with them if they do commit a crime? Lock them all up for life?
Well, if they can't be fixed or at least brought under control by medication, that seems the logical and ethical thing to do. Institutionalize them due to having an untreatable brain disorder that makes them dangerous. Letting them run loose would be foolish, and executing them ethically questionable ( and I don't really like the death penalty anyway ) if they have a brain malfunction that impairs their judgement.
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I glossed over the paper, and it looks like they're on to something interesting here.

There's definitely a flawed connectivity between the amygdala and the OFC, and they think it may actually correlate with more than just psychopathic behavior - for example, dysfunction of that connection is also noted in "children showing impulsive traits after early severe socio-emotional deprivation" and "impulsive aggressive borderline personality-disordered patients".

It also appears they haven't quite figured out why this connection degrades, either - whether it's a cause in itself, or just an effect of other factors (like a dysfunction elsewhere, or possibly something in their history such as drug abuse or institutionalization).

Apparently they also had some difficulties arranging to put dangerous psychopaths in the MRI, since the sample was pretty small - only 9, with a control group of 9 normal people.

Still, interesting stuff there. Definitely a target for more research.
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For those who don't know, the amygdala is where many emotional reactions and memories get processed. People who are missing their amygdala have shown an inability to recognize fear. Research on the orbital frontal cortex (OFC) has shown that it seems to be responsible in social behavior, response suppression and decision making. A person with an impaired OFC might therefore have impaired social behavior.

Interestingly, there was a video about this very topic I saw recently, although it is a bit short. It's definitely an area I would love to look into further.

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Fire Fly wrote:People who are missing their amygdala have shown an inability to recognize fear.
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Bellator wrote:Suppose it can't be fixed. What do we do with them if they do commit a crime? Lock them all up for life?
Well, if they can't be fixed or at least brought under control by medication, that seems the logical and ethical thing to do. Institutionalize them due to having an untreatable brain disorder that makes them dangerous. Letting them run loose would be foolish, and executing them ethically questionable ( and I don't really like the death penalty anyway ) if they have a brain malfunction that impairs their judgement.

Only if they've first committed a crime, though. Some psychopaths/sociopaths can internalize the cost/benefit analysis which will tell them that they will be more successful by obeying the law. In short, amoral bastards who've taught themselves that the police would catch them if they ever did anything illegal. These people will never be healthy and will honestly live sad lives, but we have no right to institutionalize them based on their brain structure alone.
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Lord of the Abyss wrote:
Bellator wrote:Suppose it can't be fixed. What do we do with them if they do commit a crime? Lock them all up for life?
Well, if they can't be fixed or at least brought under control by medication, that seems the logical and ethical thing to do. Institutionalize them due to having an untreatable brain disorder that makes them dangerous. Letting them run loose would be foolish, and executing them ethically questionable ( and I don't really like the death penalty anyway ) if they have a brain malfunction that impairs their judgement.

Only if they've first committed a crime, though. Some psychopaths/sociopaths can internalize the cost/benefit analysis which will tell them that they will be more successful by obeying the law. In short, amoral bastards who've taught themselves that the police would catch them if they ever did anything illegal. These people will never be healthy and will honestly live sad lives, but we have no right to institutionalize them based on their brain structure alone.
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What about relatively minor crimes, that would still warrant jailtime? Do we still put them away for life? Where do we draw the line?
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Bellator wrote:What about relatively minor crimes, that would still warrant jailtime? Do we still put them away for life? Where do we draw the line?
If they show the capacity to limit themselves even with altered brain function, I don't see how you can admit them clinically for life. Kind of a catch-22. If they can't moderate themselves with their impairments, then chances are that they do something illegal and thus you put them away. If they can, you have really no reason to lock em up.
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Assuming psychopathy is caused by genetic or other physiological factors, I wonder what effect it will have on the rate of violent crime when/if we figure out a way to cure it biochemically.
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Mental illness can't be cured, it can be treated with medication, but yeah. If you use genetic engineering, there's still the whole nature-versus-nurture thing going on. Even if they're engineered to be perfectly sane and sound, if they're raised in a fucked up environment they can still end up being insane and unsound individuals.
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