WALL E question

[FaxModem1]

In WALL E(a great film, btw), it it shown that the human race has left the planet because the Earth is unsustainable. The method of evacuation, was by getting a ticket on a Buy and Large cruise ship. My question is, how many people made it?

How many ships were there? How many people were there? How much were tickets? Were there any requirements for getting a ticket?

Course, we don't know the answer to any of these questions, but I figure if anyone can talk about this, its stardestroyer.net.

So, did BnL get everyone off the Earth, or are there mass skeletons that have since gone to dust when we see WALL E going about his day?

[Zor]

As the ad at the beginning of the film goes "We'll clean up the mess while your away". I allways interperated that as meaning that BnL's cleanup started after the relocation of humanity into space with no mass graves. They never say anything about "People left behind" in the Directors commentary, just that humanity moved into space to avoid garbage.

A REAL question that i was wondering about was the other ships, or more specificially did they return? One thing that I had thought about was what if AUTO said that all communications are Terminated, he managed to cut all long range ship to ship communication systems as his directive was to keep mankind from Earth, so even if EVE and WALL-E sucseeded the rest of the BnL fleet would not know its time to return and not return.

Finally, No Grimdarking up WALL-E, Goddamnit!

Zor

[FaxModem1]

Well, how many ships would that require to evacuate the total Earth's population? How many people were on board the AXIOM? How many did it sustain? Did they churn out cruise ships so fast that they had a fleet for the entire population?

[Shroom Man 777]

It would've been awesome if it turns out that WALL-E was also programmed to process biodegradable waste and that the first thing he did, before proceeding to compacting all sorts of inorganic junk into cubes, was to turn mass graves full of pilped up human corpses into tiny cube-sized compost chunks.

[Crossroads Inc.]

It would've been awesome if it turns out that WALL-E was also programmed to process biodegradable waste and that the first thing he did, before proceeding to compacting all sorts of inorganic junk into cubes, was to turn mass graves full of pilped up human corpses into tiny cube-sized compost chunks.

Wow...just, Wow shroom... I mean, now I have an image in my head of Cute little Walle with guts and compacted bones in his body.

[tim31]

Wicked, nothing like a little bit of Disney Gorn to start your working day

[lord Martiya]

Another question is what's happened to the BnL president. He appeared to have remained on Earth long enough to figure out they had fucked up too royally, did he left after sending his last message?

[tim31]

Inevitably. He seemed in a rush too; so some kind of immediate calamity must have been in progress.

[NecronLord]

It would've been awesome if it turns out that WALL-E was also programmed to process biodegradable waste and that the first thing he did, before proceeding to compacting all sorts of inorganic junk into cubes, was to turn mass graves full of pilped up human corpses into tiny cube-sized compost chunks.

There's something wrong with you.

Really now. Soylent Wall-E? You horrible little man.

[Gil Hamilton]

There's something wrong with you.

Really now. Soylent Wall-E? You horrible little man.

Why? Mass graves and streets strewn with bodies would almost certainly be within the mission of the WALL-Es on Earth to clear up. Frankly, if the WALL-Es composted human and animal corpses, they could probably start refining fuel from decomposition products, for emergency power to back up their solar power. At a certain point, rubbish is rubbish and it all ends up in a cube, whether its tin cans or humans who missed the boat.

[RedImperator]

A REAL question that i was wondering about was the other ships, or more specificially did they return? One thing that I had thought about was what if AUTO said that all communications are Terminated, he managed to cut all long range ship to ship communication systems as his directive was to keep mankind from Earth, so even if EVE and WALL-E sucseeded the rest of the BnL fleet would not know its time to return and not return.

If the other ships are launching EVEs, they'd be returning with more and more plants as Earth recovered. They wouldn't need the signal from Axiom to know they could go home.

[Oskuro]

Since it was meant as a kids movie, the disaster that rendered the Earth uninhabitable was designed as something silly a child might come up with, that is, the world being covered in trash. I guess the notion with the evacuation is pretty much the same, everyone made it out, and that's it, no room for kids going all sad about how many people died, and thus not paying attention to the robots.

I personally payed close attention to the recording of the BnL CEO issuing the "no return" order, due to the mask and how he was being hurried to leave, thus making me wonder how things were there.

I also guess the other BnL ships are supposed to return gradually, or maybe they thought a sequel might be about the search for said ships (although I don't really think Wall-E's story has room for a sequel)

[Shroom Man 777]

Hell, I think WALL-E would've been first programmed to process corpses and organic waste in order to PROMOTE the growth of plant-life in wasted Earth.

It would be a priority to create fertilizer that can be used to try and restore or promote plant-growth in Earth's wasted ecosystem. When that is done and they're waiting for plantlife, or when WALL-E's finished his original priority mission (of compacting rotting flesh and bones), then he goes to his secondary priority of prettying up the place and making it look nice and neat and orderly for the eventual resettlement effort that will rely on regrown plants cultivated by the sacrificial corpse of wasteland Earth's asphyxiated populace.

[NecronLord]

There's something wrong with you.

Really now. Soylent Wall-E? You horrible little man.

Why? Mass graves and streets strewn with bodies would almost certainly be within the mission of the WALL-Es on Earth to clear up. Frankly, if the WALL-Es composted human and animal corpses, they could probably start refining fuel from decomposition products, for emergency power to back up their solar power. At a certain point, rubbish is rubbish and it all ends up in a cube, whether its tin cans or humans who missed the boat.

I hereby issue this chit for one humour detector. You are required to retrieve this item from supplies immediately.

[TheMuffinKing]

Shroom's grimdark interpretation of this really makes me want to watch Wall-E. I'll try it both with my grimdark detector on and off. Even better, I'll have my wife watch this with me and explain the gruesome possible outcome of a failure to evacuate! She'll love it!

[Wing Commander MAD]

Haha, in the grim darkness of the far future, there is only WALL-E.

Seriously though, did they ever give a population for the Axiom? Was it ever hinted at in any directors interviews or anything just what happened to prevent the return? LordOskuro makes a very good point. Now that I think about it the final message from the CEO had a rather tense feel to it, like there was some kind of immediate danger.

[FaxModem1]

Haha, in the grim darkness of the far future, there is only WALL-E.

Seriously though, did they ever give a population for the Axiom? Was it ever hinted at in any directors interviews or anything just what happened to prevent the return? LordOskuro makes a very good point. Now that I think about it the final message from the CEO had a rather tense feel to it, like there was some kind of immediate danger.

Maybe it was Raiders. Either that or Super Mutants.

But one way you could do a headcount for the Axiom is count the number of individuals in the plant room at the end of the film. Every single one of the passengers and crew(minus the captain) was taken there for the plant to be inserted into the device.

[Bedlam]

I think its actually mentioned either in the film itself or the extra's on the DVD where there's the guide to the ship 10,000 people springs to mind but I'm not 100% sure about it.

From the president wearing a respirator and in a hurry to leave I assume that the atmosphere was no longer capable of sustaining humanity at the point where he calls off the recolonisation although this seems to have been fixed by the time the Axion gets back. Given the lack of a bio sphere presumably whatever was poisonous in the atmosphere either cleared out via non biological means of it was something like particulates and they settled out, although this would seem unlikely given the massive dust / sand storms that seemed to be a fairly frequent occurance.

To me it seems unlikely that the whole world could be evaculated, given than Buy and Large seems to be a consumer society to the max I was assume a massive gap between the haves and have nots with only the riches making it out into space, although I supose society on earth could have been like the society on the Axion which looked post scarcity with Robots doing everything. I would have assumed the enviromental degredation on earth would have taken place over the long term and the human population was probably dropping off for a long time before the evacuation with the exidus only occuring when the final few percent of the planet where the rich guys lived was full of rubbish as well.

[phred]

I would assume there are several ships out there. At the very least 2 or 3 per continent. There's just no way they got the entire human race on that one ship. Of course, I am sort of assuming that there were more than a couple thousand left when they decided to pack up and leave.

The question I had was, how do they resupply, since they're dumping their garbage? It seems like a massive waste of resources and air to me. Unless they can go somewhere and pick up more.

It would've been awesome if it turns out that WALL-E was also programmed to process biodegradable waste and that the first thing he did, before proceeding to compacting all sorts of inorganic junk into cubes, was to turn mass graves full of pilped up human corpses into tiny cube-sized compost chunks.

I gotta say, Shroomy is probably my favoritest person here.

[Stark]

Since they can build mega-ultra FTL ships, they clearly had space travel. The deterioration of Earth should have led to people leaving over a long period of time; the idea they'd have a fuckoff-huge FTL drive just sitting around to evacuate during a 'disaster' and not have colonies is absurd.

Of course, the GalCom Federation would have returned, but dead Earth has become a myth to them and the Nerva beacon was sabotaged by aliens.

[Oskuro]

Maybe it was Raiders. Either that or Super Mutants.

Probably the Vault Dweller was about to ruin their shit.

[Molyneux]

I figured that the other ships would be a nice sequel hook, if they ever chose to grab it - what better use to put the ship to after they had Earth running smoothly again than to go looking for their lost brethren, after all?

[avatarxprime]

I always got the impression that the BnL President was on Earth managing the evacuation process and then the initial WALL-E deployment. Remember, they thought it would only take a couple of years to do the clean up. As things continued to get worse he sent out the order not to return to Earth and he and the other BnL staff still on Earth hightailed it out of there.

[dragon]

Maybe a large portion of the population was placed in cold storage as they couldn't afford the tickets But in honesty if they had cryogenics then you could store alot of people in a small area and they wouldn't use up many of your resources. Hell they could have built a cold storage facility on the moon powered with solar power.

Also if they could build large shelf contained ships with a type of FTL drives seems like they could have built large self contained colonies on the moon and mars, or colonized other systems.

[Havok]

A REAL question that i was wondering about was the other ships, or more specificially did they return? One thing that I had thought about was what if AUTO said that all communications are Terminated, he managed to cut all long range ship to ship communication systems as his directive was to keep mankind from Earth, so even if EVE and WALL-E sucseeded the rest of the BnL fleet would not know its time to return and not return.

If the other ships are launching EVEs, they'd be returning with more and more plants as Earth recovered. They wouldn't need the signal from Axiom to know they could go home.

That raises the question of if the other ships A.I. will be successful at suppressing the findings. With out Wall-E and EVE helping, I don't see the humans on the other ships ever getting back to Earth.