Different kinds of 'Space'

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » 2003-02-10 08:18pm

How many different 'Spaces' have the stupid ST writers introduced? I'll start it off with two of my favorites:

Fluidic Space: The wonderful home of Species 8472

UnderSpace: Saw it in a Voyager episode. Can't quite remember what it was because the episode was so bad, I gave myself a lobotomy so I could forget it.

Any others?

Darth Garden Gnome · Post by **Darth Garden Gnome** » 2003-02-10 08:23pm

My goodness, you've forgotten the infinate pool of energy that isSUBSPACE!Tack this word onto any regular term and it instantley becomes Trekifyed.

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » 2003-02-10 08:27pm

Darth Garden Gnome wrote:My goodness, you've forgotten the infinate pool of energy that isSUBSPACE!Tack this word onto any regular term and it instantley becomes Trekifyed.

Hmmm, let me try.
<sarcasm>
Microwave oven? Naw, too simple.

Subspace oven? Now that sounds good!!
</sarcasm>

Post by **Kuja** » 2003-02-10 09:54pm

The Subspace lawn chair. Ahhhh, comfy.

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2003-02-10 11:01pm

Triaxilating subspace vibrator with covariant waveguide flux.

jaeger115 · Post by **jaeger115** » 2003-02-10 11:28pm

There's also "antispace".

I think I remembered it from one TNG episode in which the Enterprise ran into an temporal anomaly.

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2003-02-10 11:43pm

No, you're thinking of "anti-time".

Raxmei · Post by **Raxmei** » 2003-02-11 12:09am

They had an episode with chaotic space.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-02-11 12:38am

Uraniun235 wrote:No, you're thinking of "anti-time".

Yes, and that makes it make sense.

Utsanomiko · Post by **Utsanomiko** » 2003-02-11 12:40am

Raxmei wrote:They had an episode with chaotic space.

Is that anything like Wild magic, ala post Time of troubles?

Captain tycho · Post by **Captain tycho** » 2003-02-11 03:48am

Raxmei wrote:They had an episode with chaotic space.

I though Trek was set in chaotic space.

Zoink · Post by **Zoink** » 2003-02-11 08:27am

The voyager episode last night had "nullspace"

Enola Straight · Post by **Enola Straight** » 2003-02-11 09:19am

The one with the nullspace catapult?

Null Space was first used in TNG when Riker fell in love with an androgynous Jenai; null space was like a black hole, sucking in energy. Everything inside whas bright white

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I think in the first season Geordi bade one passing reference to Hyperspace

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Admiral Johnason · Post by **Admiral Johnason** » 2003-02-11 04:34pm

So many spaces, so little intelligence left in the producers.

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2003-02-11 08:26pm

Enola Straight wrote:The one with the nullspace catapult?

Null Space was first used in TNG when Riker fell in love with an androgynous Jenai; null space was like a black hole, sucking in energy. Everything inside whas bright white .

I think in the first season Geordi bade one passing reference to Hyperspace .

He was telling a joke. The punchline was something like "So she says to him, 'let's see you try that in hyperspace!'"

Data, of course, didn't get it. Though neither did anyone in the audience.

Enola Straight · Post by **Enola Straight** » 2003-02-11 10:52pm

In tthe TNG episode "Coming of Age" there is mention of the Hyperspace Physics Test for those wishing to join Starfleet Academy.

jaeger115 · Post by **jaeger115** » 2003-02-11 11:17pm

In tthe TNG episode "Coming of Age" there is mention of the Hyperspace Physics Test for those wishing to join Starfleet Academy.

"Okay, cadets," the instructor told everyone in the room. "Here's the Hyperspace Physics Test. It consists of two dots which you must connect. Maximum time is 3 weeks."

Admiral Johnason · Post by **Admiral Johnason** » 2003-02-12 06:01pm

Prehaps Starfleet knows of hyperspace but hs never been able to use it.

Eframepilot · Post by **Eframepilot** » 2003-02-13 02:03am

Hyperspace is just subspace with dimension n-1.

Sektor31 · Post by **Sektor31** » 2003-02-13 06:59pm

let me clear this up

hyperspace is a plane beyond normal space, think four-dimensions.

subspace is a plane...under normal space? my guess there.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-02-13 07:14pm

Hyperspace is just multidimensional space beyond three spatial, and one temporal dimension.

Hyperspace in SW refers to the universe observed from the perspective of a tachyon.

ST (RL) and SW Hyperspace are two different things.

Publius · Post by **Publius** » 2003-02-14 08:04pm

Actually, according to Mr Gene Roddenberry, in Chapter Eleven of The Motion Picture:

Almost a century ago, the first successful quantum leap of a starship into warp drive made hash of all those theories based on too narrow or unimaginative an interpretation of Einstein's work. That first starship and those aboard her did not become pure energy. What happened, of course, was that when the starship reached the threshold of light speed, it also reached that boundary between "normal" space and hyperspace. That boundary was time, making it appear to those first travelers into hyperspace that the universe around their starship had suddenly begun to shrink in size. Beginning with warp one and increasing geometrically, the higher the warp speed, the "smaller" the universe and the closer together the points within it became.

The United Federation Starfleet not only uses hyperspace, it does so on a regular and routine basis.

Admiral Johnason · Post by **Admiral Johnason** » 2003-02-14 08:10pm

Well, now, in St, what he was talking about is called subspace. He happened to use the same term as the one in SW. the same situation happened when the Klingons had "ion cannons" on their Neah'Vars.

Publius · Post by **Publius** » 2003-02-15 02:28pm

Admiral Johnason wrote:Well, now, in St, what he was talking about is called subspace. He happened to use the same term as the one in SW. the same situation happened when the Klingons had "ion cannons" on their Neah'Vars.

What Mr Roddenberry was talking about is called "hyperspace" in Star Trek, as he was writing a Star Trek novel at the time he described the basic mechanism of warp drive. Subsequent additions to the canon -- in both the Roddenberry canon and the Paramount Pictures canon -- have substituted "subspace" for "hyperspace", but the canonical fact remains that warp-driven starships involve "hyperspatial" phenomena.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-02-15 03:26pm

I know Publius. ST uses the RL definition of hyperspace. 4th dimensional space time with additional spatial dimensions above that known as hyperspace.

The universe viewed from the perspective of a tachyon (SW Hyperspace) is completely unrelated.'

Mike remarked that subspace might be a catch-all term for hyperspatial phenomenon.