Jesus Camp
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Jesus Camp
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Wow, I just watched this film and wow.
This movie is all the more disturbing in the modern context of the Obama presidency and the right-wing rage machine. These people are the face of the enemy, plain and simple.
I noticed that there are no black children in this film (likely the result of simple geography more than anything else) and that most of the families and kids would rarely if ever interact with a black person. Now try and picture the amount of fervor they had for the President Bush cutout. Now imagine how broken their brains are by a black president.
Also, I went to a private Christian school (in supposedly progressive Southern California) for most of elementary/some high school, and I am noticing a lot of similarities in attitudes from this movie. I had flashback to when the school held its weekly hour-long service during school hours in the gym, and the singing/arm raising/tears is all the same. And make no mistake, if you are a child in a place like that it is understood- You are allowed not to sing, but you will fucking sing. It is a disturbing culture that does require conformity, or the appearance of it. (BTW, any questions from the "inside" of something like this place?)
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Wow, I just watched this film and wow.
This movie is all the more disturbing in the modern context of the Obama presidency and the right-wing rage machine. These people are the face of the enemy, plain and simple.
I noticed that there are no black children in this film (likely the result of simple geography more than anything else) and that most of the families and kids would rarely if ever interact with a black person. Now try and picture the amount of fervor they had for the President Bush cutout. Now imagine how broken their brains are by a black president.
Also, I went to a private Christian school (in supposedly progressive Southern California) for most of elementary/some high school, and I am noticing a lot of similarities in attitudes from this movie. I had flashback to when the school held its weekly hour-long service during school hours in the gym, and the singing/arm raising/tears is all the same. And make no mistake, if you are a child in a place like that it is understood- You are allowed not to sing, but you will fucking sing. It is a disturbing culture that does require conformity, or the appearance of it. (BTW, any questions from the "inside" of something like this place?)
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"It was cut because an Army Ordnance panel determined that a weapon that kills an enemy soldier 10 times before he hits the ground was a waste of resources, so they scaled it back to only kill him 3 times."-Anon, on the cancellation of the Army's multi-kill vehicle.
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Seeing this old thread pop up has made me want to watch this. I'm already four minutes into it and I'm shaking my head and saying WTF?
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On a side note that camp closed soon after filming when someone sprayed graffiti on it. I guess "THIS MEANS WAR!" was all well and good till a counter attack came. Also the film is interesting to see now as the Evangelicals are a dying breed of Christian now.
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Not that it really matters, but if you go back to the carboard Bush worshipping, you'll see one black child.
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The great thing about Jesus Camp is that fundamentalists will watch it and nod their heads, thinking that it's perfectly normal. My wife watched it, and she thought it was a fairly accurate representation of the fundamentalist youth culture (sans the speaking in tongues); I watched it, and thought it was generally crazy, except the speaking in tongues, which sounded normal to me.Darth Lucifer wrote:Seeing this old thread pop up has made me want to watch this. I'm already four minutes into it and I'm shaking my head and saying WTF?
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Evangelicals are a dying breed of Christian? Since when?Invictus ChiKen wrote:On a side note that camp closed soon after filming when someone sprayed graffiti on it. I guess "THIS MEANS WAR!" was all well and good till a counter attack came. Also the film is interesting to see now as the Evangelicals are a dying breed of Christian now.
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Seriously, even if you don't count mormons in them (and mormons are brother to the evangelical movement), evangelicals are one of the few groups of christians that actually aren't losing members over time. They're in fact slowly growing, even as the average person grows more secularised (or perhaps because people are more secularised)
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Dying influence, we hope.Surlethe wrote:Evangelicals are a dying breed of Christian? Since when?Invictus ChiKen wrote:On a side note that camp closed soon after filming when someone sprayed graffiti on it. I guess "THIS MEANS WAR!" was all well and good till a counter attack came. Also the film is interesting to see now as the Evangelicals are a dying breed of Christian now.
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Please understand I mainly hear this on Catholic boards so it could be wishful thinking. But here is one article LinkSurlethe wrote:Evangelicals are a dying breed of Christian? Since when?Invictus ChiKen wrote:On a side note that camp closed soon after filming when someone sprayed graffiti on it. I guess "THIS MEANS WAR!" was all well and good till a counter attack came. Also the film is interesting to see now as the Evangelicals are a dying breed of Christian now.
BTW for those like me raised around evans. Is it just me or was the girl that wanted to catch so many drops of rain on her tongue able to freak out her mother because it sounded superstitious, which equals occult like, which equals Wicca? (According to there logic.)
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You're right, it is wishful thinking. There's no evidence at all in that blog post, just a series of assertions strung together. Evangelicalism is in decline because it has embraced the consumer culture? Please, that doesn't follow at all.Invictus ChiKen wrote:Please understand I mainly hear this on Catholic boards so it could be wishful thinking. But here is one article LinkSurlethe wrote:Evangelicals are a dying breed of Christian? Since when?Invictus ChiKen wrote:On a side note that camp closed soon after filming when someone sprayed graffiti on it. I guess "THIS MEANS WAR!" was all well and good till a counter attack came. Also the film is interesting to see now as the Evangelicals are a dying breed of Christian now.
A Government founded upon justice, and recognizing the equal rights of all men; claiming higher authority for existence, or sanction for its laws, that nature, reason, and the regularly ascertained will of the people; steadily refusing to put its sword and purse in the service of any religious creed or family is a standing offense to most of the Governments of the world, and to some narrow and bigoted people among ourselves.
F. Douglass