Stargate idea that was never explored but makes sense

[Bilbo]

I always thought it would add a nice tie-in between some of the storylines if at some point it had been learned that the Ancients had discovered the Goa'uld and used them for a bit before learning how dangerous they could become. There are lots of things that would make this fit into the storyline.

First off a symbiote is able to cure the plague that was ravaging the Ancients. Considering that the plague basically wiped out those Ancients who did not ascend it would make sense that the Ancients were willing to try anything to stave off the disease.

Second there are symbiots back on a homeworld that are completely feral as discovered by SG-1. This doesnt make a whole lof of sense for the Goa'uld to gain sentience but forget and ignore their own homeworld. It does make sense if the Ancients discovered the Goa'uld, brought a bunch offworld for medical use, possibly along with Unas for study.

Third a symbiote can control even an almost acended human. Baal's symbiote was able to control Adria. This would show the danger the symbiotes represented and why the Ancients stopped using them to cure the disease and why there are no Ancients still around.

What do you think? I feel it would have added to the story and explained how desperate the Ancients had gotten in attempts to survive the plague wiping them out.

[NecronLord]

I always thought it would add a nice tie-in between some of the storylines if at some point it had been learned that the Ancients had discovered the Goa'uld and used them for a bit before learning how dangerous they could become. There are lots of things that would make this fit into the storyline.

The places of legacy reacted negatively to symbiotes, though that might just be a general 'no head parasites' rule, it's possible that the later Ancients knew about the snakes. Used them, not so much: By the time they're likely to have encountered the snakes, they'd have been refugees from the Wraith, or too ascended to get their tentacles dirty.

Certainly Janus knew about them, when he'd rebuilt his time-jumper.

First off a symbiote is able to cure the plague that was ravaging the Ancients. Considering that the plague basically wiped out those Ancients who did not ascend it would make sense that the Ancients were willing to try anything to stave off the disease.

The plague was avoided millions of years before the goa'uld rose to any sort of prominence though. Though Atlantis' wonderfully paranoid (and therefore effective) biological precautions are probably its cultural legacy.

Second there are symbiots back on a homeworld that are completely feral as discovered by SG-1. This doesnt make a whole lof of sense for the Goa'uld to gain sentience but forget and ignore their own homeworld. It does make sense if the Ancients discovered the Goa'uld, brought a bunch offworld for medical use, possibly along with Unas for study.

If the RPG is to be believed, the homeworld was utterly devastated and rather mineral-poor anyway; Unas and goa'uld are still quite rare there, after the early goa'uld fucked up its environment and left.

Third a symbiote can control even an almost acended human. Baal's symbiote was able to control Adria. This would show the danger the symbiotes represented and why the Ancients stopped using them to cure the disease and why there are no Ancients still around.

What do you think? I feel it would have added to the story and explained how desperate the Ancients had gotten in attempts to survive the plague wiping them out.

The thing is, canonically they did survive the plague. While it was obviously a disaster, the tablet Daniel translated in Full Circle was obviously not the full story (obviously enough, as the full story hadn't been written, out of universe) - the Ancients survived as a mortal culture for millions after the plague. It might be their version of the Black Death, and highly traumatic, but they did overcome it with their science, and re-seeded the galaxy after overcoming it. (Dakara device).

While the goa'uld as some kind of cure-all device is an interesting notion, it's not really necessary, and would just make them another Ancient legacy of fuckup. No thanks.

[Zac Naloen]

The thing is, canonically they did survive the plague. While it was obviously a disaster, the tablet Daniel translated in Full Circle was obviously not the full story (obviously enough, as the full story hadn't been written, out of universe) - the Ancients survived as a mortal culture for millions after the plague. It might be their version of the Black Death, and highly traumatic, but they did overcome it with their science, and re-seeded the galaxy after overcoming it. (Dakara device).

It might be fair to say that the Plague turned the ancients from a galactic super power to a very advanced, but small in numbers civilisation living in small mobile colonies and outposts like Atlantis rather than permanent cities of the type seen at the beginning of season 7.

[Crazedwraith]

We don't know definitively that the Headgrabbers responded negatively to snakes. That was just the assumption the team made at the time. It could have just been an ATA gene problem. Also they assumed that the Four Races allaince was also the fight the goa'uld but later seasons also make that unlikely.

[Bilbo]

We don't know definitively that the Headgrabbers responded negatively to snakes. That was just the assumption the team made at the time. It could have just been an ATA gene problem. Also they assumed that the Four Races allaince was also the fight the goa'uld but later seasons also make that unlikely.

Was there ever any late episode mention of the headgrabber? I know its said that the thing only worked once, which is why SG-1 had to go find another one. But the place itself was just a room with the stargate, a symbol on the floor, and the headgrabber. No indication of what else there was at all.

[NecronLord]

We don't know definitively that the Headgrabbers responded negatively to snakes. That was just the assumption the team made at the time. It could have just been an ATA gene problem. Also they assumed that the Four Races allaince was also the fight the goa'uld but later seasons also make that unlikely.

It was ready to respond to Daniel Jackson.

A number of explanations are possible, right down to the Nox or Asgard maintaining a 'do not headsuck' list that gets distributed with correlative updates. We will likely never know.