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Dragon Age is actually quite awesome at the characters saying what they think is the truth and not having a direct pipeline to the truth.
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Xon wrote:Dragon Age is actually quite awesome at the characters saying what they think is the truth and not having a direct pipeline to the truth.
A lesson I should've learned before making that damn decision, indeed.

Oh well. I fully plan to play through the game six times.

And fuck the game is hard even on easy. Or at least, doing Redcliffe first even on easy is - those fucking Drakes in the mountain! Unbelievable! Insane!

Did anyone manage to save Murdock, the Mayor, in the battle near the beginning of the quest line?

I'm trying to have a balanced party of two warriors, a rogue and a mage but the rogue - Leliana - she's a bit shit, not much there in the way of damage. Zevran isn't much use because he doesn't have any lockpicking.

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Supposedly the new patch makes Easy a little easier.
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Vympel wrote:Did anyone manage to save Murdock, the Mayor, in the battle near the beginning of the quest line?
No, he bit the dust when I did that battle. I thought I'd screwed up since the battle didn't seem to want to end; I went back up the hill to where the Knights were and the undead kept streaming down. I thought I was going to have to reload, but decided to sweep the village one more time before reloading. I found a lone undead just chilling out down by the docks and as soon as I offed him the battle ended.

Thus far I've gotten the Dalish, Mages, and Redcliffe on my side, and I think I'm pretty close to getting the Dwarves on my side. I found the options for completing the Dalish quest line to be interesting.

Also, Spoiler
I think I'm on the "evil" side of the Dwarf quest, helping Harrowmort, I was going to help the Prince, but when I found out I could crack some skulls in the Arena for Harrowmort, my mind was made up.
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I too am having a band width problem with this, got to contact AT&T. Should have known better
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I playing as an elf mage and I'm have a (literal) blast. Level 14 now, with Arcane Warrior and Spirit Healer specialisations. I've gathered the assistance of all the areas now except Orzamar. My preferred party mix at the moment is two warriors and two mages. Plenty of tank, plenty of healing an explosions. Arcane Warrior is great - being able to open with the lightning storm & fireballs then wade in with the equivalent of 44 strength is pretty fun. Even better, being able to trade in silly hat and robes for plate armour is wonderful. I thought the fatigue penalty would hit hard but wearing a complete set of armour that lowers ability costs in combination with +stamina armour (gets added to mana instead) it's not so bad.
Vympel wrote:those fucking Drakes in the mountain! Unbelievable! Insane!

Did anyone manage to save Murdock, the Mayor, in the battle near the beginning of the quest line?
I came to redcliff third, so I don't know if that makes it easier or not, but I still had a hard time in some of the rooms. There was one in particular with an elite cultist mage/leader fellow that triggers a huge spawn of drakes as you enter the room. Anyway, if you think the drakes are murder I don't recommend you blow the leaders horn on the mountain top! If you do kill the High Dragon however you can an awesome suit of armour from the scales. Just remember to pay the extra fee if you can, it's worth it.

Also, I think I did manage to save the mayor during the battle, I had to cast some heals on him.
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Difficulty is a bit wonky. I found the High Dragon to be several times easier than the fruitcake cultist leader and his cronies. Arcane Warrior sadly overlooks something crucial, as I don't think Magic scales your chance to hit at all. As a result, I hit like a truck when I manage to hit, but I miss a lot.
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I'm trying to avoid spoilers, so pardon me if I go over a few things others have said. I've just done Redcliffe after going there first and appear hell-bent on the Maximum Heresy route with my Elf Mage Shapeshifter (And I certainly did not make a deal with a demon for Blood Magic. Mainly because it's a few levels off.) Morrigan is being slowly encouraged to heal while I layer Walking Bombs, Virulent Walking Bombs, Shocks and Tempests on anyone silly enough to get somewhat close. Alastair's there to stand and be hit, while Crazy French Priest Lady has been hired to open chests for us and shoot things with arrows. (Seriously, I can make a man violently exsanguinate so hard he maims his counterparts and righteously level small areas of countryside, but a lock somehow foils me?)

Needless to say, on easy and with Friendly Fire off. God forbid I ever let my mage loose on anything above that.

Having fun at the moment though, some interesting choices thus far and hopefully many to come. I'm not really going for any particular moral stance or anything, just seeing what happens next. So far just picking the first thing that comes to mind had been amusing to say the least.
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I'm playing a Dwarf Commoner. He's got a perpetual grumpy scowl, a huge bright red beard, and a hammer nearly as big as he is.

I've even found him a helmet with horns on.

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Stofsk wrote:Supposedly the new patch makes Easy a little easier.
When is this patch due? I'm at the Archdeamon and I can't get it down past 1/4 health before I get taken down by swarms of Darkspawn.
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Stofsk wrote:Has anyone chosen anything other than Human Noble Warrior? I am thinking of playing a Dalish Elf Rogue with Ranger in mind (I like bows).

How useful have people been finding skills? Especially ones like Coercion?
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Stofsk wrote:Supposedly the new patch makes Easy a little easier.
When is this patch due? I'm at the Archdeamon and I can't get it down past 1/4 health before I get taken down by swarms of Darkspawn.
I assume that it's patch 1.01, which was released a few days ago. I downloaded and ran it, and it promptly broke my game, I had to download some C++ security update or somesuch (don't remember the exact name) to get the game running again. You can find the information on the patch and its issues and fixes here.

Also, I just finished the Dwarven line and got them to support me against the Darkspawn, and all I can say is what an annoying series of boss fights.
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I think I buggered up and missed the Blood Mage specialisation. Spoiler
The only mage I had in my party when I had to send someone into the Fade was Wynn; I wasn't expecting she'd scupper my chance to get the Blood Mage by being all FUCK YOU DEMON YOU'RE GONNA DIE. Should've expected it with her goody-two-shoesishness. Oh well.
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I would imagine it's similar to Wynne's power to raise the dead; there are no automatic ways to set her to resurrect someone that has died, that I can see.

It sounds like it'd be similar for Shale (though I wouldn't know personally, because the DLC is being an utter fucking pain.)

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Darth Quorthon wrote:Also, Spoiler
I think I'm on the "evil" side of the Dwarf quest, helping Harrowmort, I was going to help the Prince, but when I found out I could crack some skulls in the Arena for Harrowmort, my mind was made up.
Read at your own risk:
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I played through the dwarf noble origin this morning on a friend's computer, and suffice to say, Harrowment would have to be Stalin for the traitorous, lying, slimy little bastard Behlen to be the 'good' option. On the other hand, I imagine it wouldn't be impossible for Harrowment to be playing the 'game', given that being a dwarf noble pretty much entails being a backstabber as a matter of course: the number of times the option comes up to assassinate or conspire to assassinate other dwarves is staggering. :)
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This is annoying. It seems the Death Syphon and Death Magic talents don't actually do anything when you're in combat; they only use corpses to restore your health/mana outside of combat. The normal health/mana regen outside of combat is fast enough to make these two talents close to useless. It would've been really nice if their descriptions had actually mentioned this.

The descriptions of quite a few talents are bit lacking actually; mostly just because there are some sustained abilities that don't work with other ones, but nothing to actually tell you this until you put a point into it and find out. Maybe if they had spent more time on writing the information related to gameplay rather than ten thousand codex entries about Andraste's left nostril this wouldn't have happened.

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Coaan wrote:I would imagine it's similar to Wynne's power to raise the dead; there are no automatic ways to set her to resurrect someone that has died, that I can see.

It sounds like it'd be similar for Shale (though I wouldn't know personally, because the DLC is being an utter fucking pain.)
Bugger. The lack of a Target:Ally:Dead criteria is annoying also, but it's easy enough to quickly switch to her and cast it; it's not like you're not going to notice one of your party dieing.
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Manus Celer Dei wrote: With my Arcane Warrior...
Damn, Im bent on getting Arcane Warrior specialization, I liked the Eldritch Knight class in NWN2. Can you drop a small spoiler on where to find a trainer for this?
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Spoiler
Head over to the Elven forest with the unmemorable name. Churn through the quests there until you end up in the dungeon area, and poke around. You learn it from what's left of an elf's mind who's solidly stuck inside a rock.
Fair warning, I do good damage, but I miss all the TIME. Magic scales damage, but doesn't do shit for your attack roll, which is an annoying oversight if you didn't pre-plan Arcane Warrior
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White Haven wrote: Fair warning, I do good damage, but I miss all the TIME. Magic scales damage, but doesn't do shit for your attack roll, which is an annoying oversight if you didn't pre-plan Arcane Warrior
Thanks, I found it a few hours after I posted this. Actually I DID pre-plan my Arcane Warrior (as best as I could with scarce knowledge of the finer points of the game mechanic) by investing into strength, dexterity and constitution.

By the way, how does it work exactly? It says in the description that it uses magic for strength. What determines chances of hitting tho?
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I stumbled across a FUCKING AWESOME glitch last night.

Return to Duncan with the 3 vials of tainted blood, but not the treaties and he'll give you the XP for that portion of hte quest, but the treaties part will stay open.

I then wanted to ask him more about the treaties and where they might be, but it went through the same scene of returning the blood. And then ended with the quest completion and XP award again.

And again.
And again.
And again.
And again.

You can do this pretty much until the cows come home it would seem. So if you wan to power-level early, here's a way to do it.
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Cheater :P
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Stofsk wrote:Cheater :P
It was unintentional the first time. The second time was to check that it was what I thought it was. The next two or three - yeah, that was probably a bit low.

I am however playing a goddamn rogue, so it's in character.
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Im having a blast playing a rogue duelist. Though some parts of this game is insanly hard when you have such a crappy NPC AI. I have lost count of the number of time that damn AI has fu*** up my perfecly layed plan.

Oh well, next level I will also gain the Assassin tree.. that will be helpful.

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Haha, oh man, I just finished Shale's quest in the deep roads to find out more about his origin. Spoiler
He was a woman before he was turned into a golem. It's like Fawkes from Fallout 3 all over again. It's extra-hilarious if your player character is a woman.

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I'm having a blast with this game, too, despite it's mainly minor flaws. Playing as a human rogue right now going for mostly good options, but I'm already seeing a second playthrough as a greedy violent dwarfen bastard :D It's nice that there's no real "evil" options in most cases, just "and what would helping you profit me", which is more sane than the Sith route of "you dare asking for my help, DIE" (I've never played NWN nor BG, so KOTOR is what I compare this game to).

Using pause in combat a lot is a must for me, because while the whole "tactics" menu is nice, it doesn't work 100% in some cases. For example I'm using Alistair as tank and I've set him to attack enemies going for my healer Wynne as first priority, with going for lowest health as second, but it seems he NEVER breaks off attacking whatever he saw first, and even when that enemy goes down, he doesn't head to Wynne if she is in trouble. Everyone else in my party is set to "engage Alistair's target", but they won't do that sometimes either. And everybody going for different targets is death, so micromanaging it is. It's not that bad, because combat is still fun, it just means that playing in "realtime" is no option. You have to place rogues behind enemies and use many abilities/spells manually, anyways. Combat can still be rather hard on normal, like when with a bit of bad luck a pack of wolves slaughters you within seconds. What works well is luring enemies to your stationary party instead of running towards them.

I'm growing a bid tired of Carth Atton Alistair and his whining, though. I think I'll try HK47 Shale for a tank later, and I'm looking forward to replacing him entirely with my player character on a second playthrough. Although I'd also like to go for a dual-wield warrior killing things with axes to mirror my champion in LotRO, anyone played a dw warrior yet? How does damage hold up against rogues?


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