Few nBSG questions

[RedImperator]

One million light years is the longest jump we saw. It took place in the final episode and involved blackholes and rock music and angels.

No way. As early as the end of season 3 they were in the same arm of the galaxy as Earth 2. Jump drives appear to have limited range (they never leave the Milky Way) but the more important limit seems to be navigational and computational (it's risky to jump "beyond the red line").

The dialogue said they cleared one million lightyears. Considering they jumped near a blackhole with mystical bullshit ritual involving enchanted ftl computers, music and angels that just might be what happened. It would also explain why the Cylons never bothered them again. They went away so far that no basestar could ever catch up.

Um, no? First of all, we know for a fact Real Earth is in the same galaxy as the 12 Colonies, Kobol, Fake Earth, the Algae Planet, and every other location seen in the series. There's a shot at the end of Season 3 where the camera zooms out from the fleet until the entire galaxy is in view, then zooms in again on Earth. A million light-year jump would take them halfway to Andromeda. Adama was exaggerating.

As for why the Cylons never bothered them again, did you notice the part where their colony fell into a black hole? After they'd already lost the resurrection hub and all their females in the civil war? The answer is obvious: their civilization collapsed and the survivors died of old age without leaving any descendants.

[Anguirus]

Also, the Cylons had no method of FINDING the Colonials, outside of a brute-force search of every star system in the general vicinity, which is implied to be well beyond their capacity. It's even worse because the Cylons don't even know where the Galactica jumped from in order to attack the Colony, so they don't know where the Colonial fleet jumped from to get to Earth2 (or THAT they did so at all). The technology in the Galactica-verse seems to make it utterly impossible to find one particular habitable star system in the galaxy. Hell, it's rare that they find ANY inhabitable star system.

[RedImperator]

Also, the Cylons had no method of FINDING the Colonials, outside of a brute-force search of every star system in the general vicinity, which is implied to be well beyond their capacity. It's even worse because the Cylons don't even know where the Galactica jumped from in order to attack the Colony, so they don't know where the Colonial fleet jumped from to get to Earth2 (or THAT they did so at all). The technology in the Galactica-verse seems to make it utterly impossible to find one particular habitable star system in the galaxy. Hell, it's rare that they find ANY inhabitable star system.

Well, if their civilization survived, then it's possible they could have expanded through the galaxy until they found RealEarth by accident. They had 200,000 years to try.

Makes you wonder what happened to the red stripes, though at least with them, there's a plausible reason for them to leave Earth alone. For all we know, some red stripe post-singularity machine god is watching over and protecting Earth.

[Sarevok]

Personally I think one million light years was an example of writing having no idea about consistency. Its a persistent problem with last two seasons. On the other hand without putting real earth at least beyond the reach of cylons makes it very hard to explain why they never came back. Not without turning them into bigger morons than they already are. Remember skinjobs still have a few years to live. Colonial FTL has shitty range so number of star systems they can go in one jump is very tiny even with vodoo magic. They can visit them all quickly. Even after the skinjobs die there is the Centurions. The skinjobs can cut them loose after their death approaches.

[Anguirus]

Personally I think one million light years was an example of writing having no idea about consistency.

What part of IT WAS FUCKING HYPERBOLE IN CHARACTER DIALOGUE do you not understand?

It was also just explained to you why the Cylons can't just "find" Earth2, the same way the Colonials didn't "just find it" at some earlier date when it would have solved all their problems.

The universe is consistent on this. If you don't like it, more power to you, but don't say it's inconsistent because you can't put a few simple facts together.

[RedImperator]

Personally I think one million light years was an example of writing having no idea about consistency. Its a persistent problem with last two seasons. On the other hand without putting real earth at least beyond the reach of cylons makes it very hard to explain why they never came back.

No, it's not. It's only hard to understand if you're an idiot.

Not without turning them into bigger morons than they already are. Remember skinjobs still have a few years to live. Colonial FTL has shitty range so number of star systems they can go in one jump is very tiny even with vodoo magic.

Now you're just making shit up. I'd love to see some numbers for this "tiny range". Don't forget your episode citations.

They can visit them all quickly.

You have no idea how big space is, do you? Even if Colonial jump ranges are relatively small, there could be thousands of stars within that envelope. And on top of that, you're assuming the Cylons have the same knowledge the viewer does. Why? They have no idea Galactica jumped to Earth II, where Earth II is, or even that Earth II exists. They don't know how badly damaged Galactica is, and anyway, even if they did, the Colonials have the rebel basestar, so they can afford to abandon Galactica. The Cylons have totally lost the fleet and have no idea where to start looking, and they hardly have the assets left to start a brute force search of the immediate neighborhood of the black hole.

Incidentally, in real life, there are no black holes with bright accretion disks like what we saw in the finale anywhere near Earth. The nearest is 3500 light years away, and there's no fucking way 200,000 years ago it could have been substantially closer (in the same time span, the Sun has moved about 150 light years in its orbit around the center of the galaxy). So yeah, so much for your tiny range jump drives.

Even after the skinjobs die there is the Centurions. The skinjobs can cut them loose after their death approaches.

What makes you think the Centurions would give a single solitary shit about humanity? We know what happens when Centurions are "cut loose"--they kill Cavill's faction as revenge for enslaving them. Same goes for the hybrids and the raiders--without skinjobs to guide them, we have no idea what they would care to do with their lives (we do know that the Cylons' fanatical drive to exterminate humanity came from the skinjobs, led by Cavill, not from leftover grudges from the First Cylon War--and anyway, it seems like all of the surviving original toasters got sucked into the black hole).

[tim31]

The dialogue said they cleared one million lightyears. Considering they jumped near a blackhole with mystical bullshit ritual involving enchanted ftl computers, music and angels that just might be what happened. It would also explain why the Cylons never bothered them again. They went away so far that no basestar could ever catch up.

1.) 'million light years' was an off-the-cuff remark by Adama. It had to have been; it can't be rationalized ay other way.

2.) maybe the centurions were just sick of all the bullshit and left well alone?