"We can't kill all the Muslims"
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Re: "We can't kill all the Muslims"
No shep is entirely right. You could effectively kill all the muslims with nuclear strikes on muslim countries and military combing operations in muslim areas in non muslim countries. The point is that it is not feasible in current geo political climate. But it does not mean that it can not be done if the will existed. Keeping a realistic view of ones weaknesses is important. Many muslims dont realise just how defenseless and backward muslim countries are when they bluster about attacking evil westerners. This is a very bad and self defeating thinking.
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You do realize that some of those non-Muslim countries also have nuclear weapons? And what makes you think that we'd be in any shape to do any "combing" when our economy crashes after the rest of humanity unites against us instead of trading with us?Sarevok wrote:No shep is entirely right. You could effectively kill all the muslims with nuclear strikes on muslim countries and military combing operations in muslim areas in non muslim countries.
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Only Pakistan has nuclear weapons and they have a handful of them. It is not known for sure if any of their nuclear devices are advanced enough to be delivered via missiles. And even if they have some small enough to fit missiles their missiles have very limited range. Even if they somehow do manage to launch missiles their handful of obsolete missiles would be easy pickings for any ABM shield. So the muslim worlds ability to retaliate against nuclear aggression is very limited. That is the point in a nutshell. The muslim world is virtually defenseless should the war islamic extremists day dream about materialize for real.Lord of the Abyss wrote: You do realize that some of those non-Muslim countries also have nuclear weapons?
The west has survived second world war. Damage to economy is survivable when the other side is barely shooting back.And what makes you think that we'd be in any shape to do any "combing" when our economy crashes after the rest of humanity unites against us instead of trading with us?
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What makes you think "humanity" will unite and stop trading with us? Did they stop trading with Hitler? Besides, who's this "humanity" that will unite against the West, anyway?Lord of the Abyss wrote:You do realize that some of those non-Muslim countries also have nuclear weapons? And what makes you think that we'd be in any shape to do any "combing" when our economy crashes after the rest of humanity unites against us instead of trading with us?Sarevok wrote:No shep is entirely right. You could effectively kill all the muslims with nuclear strikes on muslim countries and military combing operations in muslim areas in non muslim countries.
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Indeed. Consider rising economic powers like China and India for instance. India does not like muslims much and neither does China. They would not care about stopping trade because people causing trouble inside their own borders ceased to be a problem anymore. The whole "kill all the infidels" line of thinking has not earned islamic extemists any powerful allies.
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Those countries might, however, take exception to any attempts to eradicate the Muslims within their borders. China might be heavy-handed with Uyghur and Hui rioters and separatists, but they're not about to go and genocide them all either. They quite pride themselves on being a multi-ethnic country.
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It's also not a "non-muslim country". Russia for example isn't "the West", has plenty of nukes, Muslims and wouldn't welcome a foreign army of extermination regardless of their target. Nor would they like breathing fallout from thousands of nukes being dropped near their borders.Sarevok wrote:Only Pakistan has nuclear weapons and they have a handful of them.Lord of the Abyss wrote: You do realize that some of those non-Muslim countries also have nuclear weapons?
Hitler didn't do nearly as much damage. The Holocaust and WWII were minor by comparison. Europe, after all, is still there. And even if Hitler had killed every last person in Europe it would have been a smaller atrocity. Perhaps if he'd killed two Europes.fgalkin wrote:What makes you think "humanity" will unite and stop trading with us? Did they stop trading with Hitler?
Everyone who thinks they might be next on the massacre list and knows how much we need trade. Which...would probably be everyone.fgalkin wrote:Besides, who's this "humanity" that will unite against the West, anyway?
I expect they'd care when they thought about the massive amounts of fallout that would cross their borders. And they'd probably care about Pakistan lashing out with what nukes they have within range. For that matter, I doubt India would like losing thirteen percent of its population even before counting non-Muslim casualties.Sarevok wrote:Indeed. Consider rising economic powers like China and India for instance. India does not like muslims much and neither does China. They would not care about stopping trade because people causing trouble inside their own borders ceased to be a problem anymore.
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I'm sure France and Britain would be rather displeased with any army trying to wipe out their Muslim populations and they have nukes to boot. While one could argue that they wouldn't fire on their primary ally, one could counter-argue that they wouldn't expect that ally to go crazy and start going on a slaughter-spree of unprecedented proportions, either.
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This thread has ventured off into the land of the fucking retarded. You might as well be debating if nuking the moon into obliteration is a viable option.
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Can we also talk about the systemic atomic annihilation of other ethnicities and demographics, please? Would anyone else want to see a discussion on the wholesale slaughter of other races that are likewise pathologically disliked? Or would that be naughty? ![Wink ;)](./images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
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