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Irish church obsessively hid child abuse: report

By Andras Gergely

DUBLIN (Reuters) - Roman Catholic archbishops in Dublin obsessively covered up widespread sexual abuse of children by priests until the mid-1990s, a report commissioned by the Irish government said on Thursday.

One priest admitted abusing more than 100 children. Another said he had abused every two weeks for over 25 years, it said.

All archbishops in charge over the 1975-2004 period covered by the inquiry were aware of some complaints and the archdiocese was pre-occupied with protecting the reputation of the Church over and above protecting children's welfare, the report said.

It said the Church was "obsessively" concerned with secrecy and operated a policy of "don't ask, don't tell" about abuse.

"Unfortunately, it may be that the very prominent role which the Church has played in Irish life is the very reason why abuses by a minority of its members were allowed to go unchecked," it said.

The report, designed to show how the Church and state responded to charges of abusing children, said a representative sample of 46 priests against whom complaints were leveled at made it "abundantly clear" that abuse was widespread.

The inquiry, which came six months after a similarly damning report about Church-run industrial and reform schools, also accused state officials of abetting the cover-up.

The government acknowledged the errors of state agencies mentioned in the report, and Justice Minister Dermot Ahern told a news conference of his revulsion at the findings.

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"I read the report as justice minister. But on a human level -- as a father and as a member of this community -- I felt a growing sense of revulsion and anger," Ahern said.

"Revulsion at the horrible evil acts committed against children. Anger at how those children were then dealt with and how often abusers were left free to abuse."

The Church in Ireland has been plagued by sex scandals for at least two decades. The disclosures in May of floggings, slave labor and gang rape in much of Ireland's now defunct system of industrial and reform schools earlier in the 20th century shamed Ireland and further eroded the Church's moral authority.

"The Dublin Archdiocese's pre-occupations in dealing with cases of child sexual abuse, at least until the mid-1990s, were the maintenance of secrecy, the avoidance of scandal, the protection of the reputation of the Church, and the preservation of its assets," Thursday's report said.

"All other considerations, including the welfare of children and justice for victims, were subordinated to these priorities," added the report, which was published by the Justice Ministry.

More than twice as many complaints related to boys than girls, but the report also said it was "risible" when an archbishop defended one case by saying it arose merely from a priest's "'wonderment' about the female anatomy."

Similar abuse cover-up charges have dogged the Catholic Church in other countries, especially the United States. Seven dioceses there have filed for bankruptcy protection to shield themselves from law suits by abuse victims.

Pope Benedict has condemned sexual abuse by clergy and said wayward priests should be brought to justice. He met abuse victims during his 2008 visit to the United States.

Abuse cases have also been reported elsewhere, notably in Australia, Austria, Britain, Canada, France and Poland.

"What is of the utmost importance now is that we continue to pursue relentlessly the perpetrators of abuse to bring them to the justice they deserve," Ahern said.

Maeve Lewis, executive director of victims' group One in Four, said: "We ask the minister of justice to extend the investigations to all archdioceses in the country."

Work on the latest report, begun in 2006, finished months ago but publication was delayed until the High Court cleared it last week with some details removed because they could jeopardize criminal proceedings.

(Additional reporting by Padraic Halpin, Antonella Ciancio and Tom Heneghan, editing by Alison Williams)
But of course 'the Catholic Church is a force for good' :roll:

The Telegraph story on this had an interesting detail I hadn't heard before:
The inquiry, which was looking at a sample of 46 priests dating back to 1975 but took its review back as far as the 1940s, outlined an insurance scheme for victims set up by the Archdiocese in 1987.

Church files show at the time Archbishops McNamara, Ryan and McQuaid had, between them, information on complaints against at least 17 priests.

The Commission said it proved the hierarchy knew the sex abuse scandals would cost the Church dearly.

''The taking out of insurance was proving knowledge of child sex abuse as a major cost to the Archdiocese and is inconsistent with the view that archdiocesan officials were still 'on a learning curve' at a much later date, or were lacking in an appreciation of the phenomenon of clerical child sex abuse,'' it said.

"The Archdiocese was pre-occupied until the mid-1990s with maintaining secrecy, avoiding scandal, protecting the reputation of the Church and preservation of assets.
So contrary to their ridiculous denials the church leadership knew what they were doing was illegal (how they managed not to understand it to be immoral is another matter) and took steps to try and protect the church from the financial fall out of their enabling of paedophile priests whilst continuing to enable paedophile priests.
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This is news, how? Regardless of whether the Catholic Church in Ireland acknowledged the abuse, virtually everyone else in Ireland has acknowledge it. For example, The Magdalene Sisters came out in 2002 and there wasn't a whole lot of "it's all lies!" type of criticism.
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More than twice as many complaints related to boys than girls, but the report also said it was "risible" when an archbishop defended one case by saying it arose merely from a priest's "'wonderment' about the female anatomy."
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SancheztheWhaler wrote:This is news, how? Regardless of whether the Catholic Church in Ireland acknowledged the abuse, virtually everyone else in Ireland has acknowledge it. For example, The Magdalene Sisters came out in 2002 and there wasn't a whole lot of "it's all lies!" type of criticism.
Hows about you try actually reading the OP before kneejerking.
The article quote in the op which you clearly didn't read wrote:"Roman Catholic archbishops in Dublin obsessively covered up widespread sexual abuse of children by priests until the mid-1990s, a report commissioned by the Irish government said on Thursday."
Furthermore the Magdalene Sisters is about the church's ill-treatment of adult women who were effectively enslaved by it, this report is about it's enabling paedophile priests to rape children with impunity for decades.
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Plekhanov wrote: But of course 'the Catholic Church is a force for good' :roll:
It amuses me how some apologists can claim it was an aberration even though the cover up extended quite high up in the Catholic hierarchy or claim they somehow get a free pass because they opposed the USSR.
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no,no because the Magdelene Sisterhood also enslaved Jewish women to save them from the deathcamps back in the 40s all should be forgiven....

yeah, unfortunatly this is very old news, and part of why I have nasty arguements with my mom's catholic family.
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I thought this report already came out earlier in the year. Or is this a different report than the one about the Christian Brothers?
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no the earlier report was about the mistreatment of orphens and teen parents for the last 60 years. Basically enslaving women, and abusing them physically for the sin of getting pregnant early on, and also abusing and mistreating their children (who incidentally were seperated from their mothers). Connelly would probably roll over in his grave, that this kind of stuff is still going on...

but then he was a damn dirty socialist/communist amoung the easter risers...
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CarsonPalmer wrote:I thought this report already came out earlier in the year. Or is this a different report than the one about the Christian Brothers?
The previous report was the Ryan Report, this one is the Murphy Report. The Ryan Report was about the children living under the care of the Church, this Murphy Report is about the diocese of Dublin more specifically and related more to abuse suffered by the likes of altar boys and in youth schemes run by priests.

Quite frankly it's about time the Catholic Church was properly reamed for the atrocities they visited to Ireland. This latest report shows account of parents being told to keep quite about it, fuck only know what sort of evil was visited upon the orphans and abandoned children that the Church was trusted to look after.

To this day Catholic Church refuses to even name the dead priests involved let alone this still active in the community and who could very well still be offending and destroying young childrens lives.
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And of course as a half Irish Catholic, half German Jewish agnostic I have been paying attention for years, and am thus very angered about this.
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The BBC wrote:Vatican 'snubbed Ireland church abuse inquiry'

The inquiry into sex abuse by Catholic priests in Ireland has disclosed that the Vatican ignored formal requests for information.


The inquiry asked for details of reports on abuse sent to the Vatican by the Dublin archdiocese in 2006.

The Vatican did not reply but told the Irish Foreign Affairs department the request "had not gone through appropriate diplomatic channels".

The inquiry condemned church leaders for covering-up abuse for decades.

The Report of the Commission of Investigation into the Catholic Archdiocese of Dublin, which was published on Thursday, covered a period from 1975 to 2004.

The commission said it was independent of the government and therefore did not regard it as appropriate to use diplomatic channels when seeking information.

A request for information from the Papal Nuncio also was ignored.

In February 2007, the commission wrote to the Dublin-based Papal Nuncio asking him to forward all relevant documents in his possession.

It also requested that he confirm whether he had any such documents but the Papal Nuncio did not reply.

Ashamed

Earlier this year, the commission again failed to receive a reply after sending the Papal Nuncio extracts from its draft report which referred to him and his office, as it was required to do.

The Vatican told The Irish Times it "was a matter for the local church involved".

A senior Vatican spokesman said diplomatic practice required that outside requests made to the governance of the Vatican pass through diplomatic channels, in this case the Department of Foreign Affairs in Dublin and the Irish Embassy to the Holy See in Rome.

The leader of the Catholic Church in Ireland has said he is deeply sorry and ashamed by the child abuse the report had revealed.

Cardinal Sean Brady also apologised for the way the Church covered-up the crimes.

The report also found that on occasions senior police officers colluded in the cover-up.

The commissioner of the Irish police, Fachtna Murphy, apologised for the police failure to protect victims.

Victims groups are now calling for a similar inquiry to take place in every diocese in Ireland.

However, the Auxiliary Bishop of Dublin Eamonn Walsh has said he does not believe that should happen.

He said it would be better for the Church to use its "time, energy and money" to improve child protection measures.
For all it's supposed apologies it's clear that nothing has changed, so long as it thinks it can get away with it the Catholic Church is still as obstructive as ever and determined to do everything it can to cover abuse and it's role in enabling it.
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