SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I

[Coyote]

Captain Montefiore of the Yishuv will express a great deal of interest in some of the stuff at the airshow, and at some point the Yishuv will buy some autogyros for study and evaluation. We intend to make one of our own soon, maybe in conjunction with Prof. Henrich Focke of Deutschland. I'll post a drawing of the proposed aircraft before too long.

We'll purchase some upgrades for aircraft, too, soon.

[Crossroads Inc.]

Are communists invited to Portugal air show?

Indeed, I've got some Zeppelins to show off!

If I eve get into this game I am SO going to corner the world Zeppelin market, just you watch!

[Akhlut]

Hmm. Well as I gathered, Mongolia does not permit Soviet forces to pass over it's territory (otherwise it couldnt' claim to be neutral, usually stationing enemy forces in your nation is a prime pretext for war). It just ships us stuff (like food and arms). Moreover, that has the veneer of trade, even if it's really a form of military lend lease.

Also, how much IBP increase one gets from wartime and what generally I get from mobilization?

Mongolia allows no foreign army access through the nation, and it continues trade with all three border nations (China, USSR, Manchuria), though, it only trades weapons with the Soviets, though it does so as clandestinely as possible.

Should any nation attempt to move its army through Mongolia, that would be an act of war that would be responded to appropriately (ie, with extreme prejudice).

[K. A. Pital]

Yeah, passage of forces doesn't permit neutrality. That's as good as actually declaring war on someone. In 1941, Finland allowed German forces to operate through it's territory and was rightfully bombed; but so as long as no foreign forces enter the nation, there shouldn't be a question about that.

And actually shipping weapons through Ulan-Ude is nothing criminal. Many nations sell weapons to Manchuria - should I declare war on them because they supply my current belligerent? I'm also sure the USSR buys weapons from other nations as well.

[Evincer]

Stas, Peru-Bolivia could use some warships, of the heavy coastal-defense variety.

I'd like to point out that Brazil has spare slipways in the 25K-40K range.

That works. The Bolivarian Union should have some spare IPBs starting in the fourth quarter. Do you have any 25-30 KT coastal defense designs with 18" guns? The government would want to standardize on 18" if possible. [I think they have some guns from Germany.]

Incidentally, a most important order is new guns for the coastal fortresses, to replace the WWI-era guns. Something in at least 16.5 inch, and preferably 18" would be awesome. Doing so is a fundamental part of the military's plans, and they'd be willing to buy guns and turrets from Brazil.

[Thanas]

What, German engineering not good enough for you anymore?

I'll note that if the coastal defence ships are the same as those designs I am building and selling to you, Germany might be quite angry about that....

[Evincer]

I think I'll buy some of those aircraft of yours, btw.

[PM Sent]

[Evincer]

What, German engineering not good enough for you anymore?

I'll note that if the coastal defence ships are the same as those designs I am building and selling to you, Germany might be quite angry about that....

Haha, that is extremely unlikely. I have to think about supply lines, though. With the Sheppistani actions and the freedom of the seas under threat, it is becoming increasingly risky to accept overseas deliveries. Plus, the political situation - if Germany becomes upset about something that the Bolivarian Union does, could it not withhold warships that have already received millions of dollars in funds? The Bolivarian Union is most pleased with the class, and would like to continue purchasing them, but needs to be able to ensure reliability of future delivery.

[Thanas]

If necessary, Germany will send vessels to guard the ships during transit.

As for the political situation, we could always enter a clause in the contract saying that half the money will be paid after delivery. Also, how much luck do you think I would have in continuing to sell ships if I suddenly renege on contracts?

No, the worst that would happen is that Germany would find itself under attack and then acquire the ships for the duration of the conflict, as any nation would do. However, in that case Germany will pledge to pay all damages and if the ship is sunk, built a more modern and at least 25% bigger design to compensate the purchasing nation for its loss. That replacement ship would be built by Germany.

[Evincer]

Okay, not to worry, that sounds pretty convincing. Germany's business with the Bolivarian Union was never really under threat anyway. Budgets are the real problem - going to have to squeeze out 40 IBP for the next one!

[Steve]

Has the proposed French-German treaty become public yet? Because I expect the reaction in France to be quite... heated.

[Norseman]

Has the proposed French-German treaty become public yet? Because I expect the reaction in France to be quite... heated.

I can't wait to see it!

[Norade]

All nations are welcome to attend the airshow and display their wares to the world, though if too many show up I may have to make the show longer and raise ticket prices.

[RogueIce]

If I ever had the Kaiser over for a state dinner or something, I wonder if my announcer could say all that in one breath.

[Coyote]

If I ever had the Kaiser over for a state dinner or something, I wonder if my announcer could say all that in one breath.

Have a babershop quartet read it off!

[Norseman]

And to think the Great Leader is only the Great Leader of the Nation, the Lodestone of the 20th Century, and the Ascending Sun That Shines for the People... I must think of some new titles!

[Raesene]

And to think the Great Leader is only the Great Leader of the Nation, the Lodestone of the 20th Century, and the Ascending Sun That Shines for the People... I must think of some new titles!

Be glad he didn't add all titles of Autria-Hungary too...

His Imperial and Royal Apostolic Majesty, Franz Joseph I, by the grace of God Emperor of Austria; Apostolic King of Hungary, King of Bohemia, Dalmatia, Croatia, Slavonia, Galicia, Lodomeria, Illyria; King of Jerusalem, etc.; Archduke of Austria; Grand Duke of Tuscany, Crakow; Duke of Lorraine, Salzburg, Styria, Carinthia, Carniola, the Bukovina; Grand Prince of Transylvania; Margrave of Moravia; Duke of the Upper & Lower Silesia, Modena, Parma, Piacenza, Guastalla, Oswiecin, Zator, Cieszyn, Friuli, Ragusa, Zara; Princely Count of Habsburg, Tyrol, Kyburg, Gorizia, Gradisca; Prince of Trent, Brixen; Margrave of the Upper & Lower Lusatia, in Istria; Count of Hohenems, Feldkirch, Bregenz, Sonnenberg, etc.; Lord of Triest, Kotor, the Wendish March; Grand Voivode of the Voivodship of Serbia etc. etc.

A few of those are of course in SDN3 devolved to new countries.

[Steve]

Um, Coyote, did you clear the Beer Hall Putsch with Thanas first?

[Coyote]

It had been mentioned in one of my earliest posts, but if need be I can edit it.

[Raj Ahten]

Any chance Germany would not sell ships to Chilitina's communist/socialist neighbors if I ask nicely? I don't think I'm that good of a customer but might as well unofficially ask anyway .

[Ryan Thunder]

You'd regret asking if we ever found out you had anything to do with it. I can promise you that much.

[loomer]

I'm aiming to have the new rifles fielded by 1928 and the new HMG by 1930. There's a reason I've got all those points in weapons design, and pre-WW1 tech just won't cut it in the long run.

Edit: To elaborate.
Production of the rifle on a mass scale will begin in 1927, with about ten IBPs investment for a big push of production. The same year, the active cavalry units will receive the first batches. In 1928 they'll start distributing it to one brigade in each infantry division until they're all equipped, which should take until 1930.

The HMG will be in development until '29, and in that year there'll be a big push on it as well and one brigade per division will replace one in ten of its extant HMGs with it. It won't be until 1930 that they can start fielding them in larger quantities, and not until '33 that they can replace all of the active service HMGs with them.

[Raj Ahten]

You'd regret asking if we ever found out you had anything to do with it. I can promise you that much.

Really? I've set myself as the enemy to all socialist/communist nations already and I'd rather they didn't build up fancy new navies to threaten the free world with thank you very much .

[Steve]

You'd regret asking if we ever found out you had anything to do with it. I can promise you that much.

What are you going to do, glare at him menacingly?

[Ryan Thunder]

Harass his shipping?