SDN World 3 Commentary Thread I

[K. A. Pital]

Uh... Once again, what time is it in game? I mean, I'll have to keep track of what's happening. I'll back-write battle of Hailar and such, but I need to keep track of time.

[CmdrWilkens]

Stas, Bean, since Britain and Russia had the biggest impacts on Afghanistan's history pre-1900, did your involvements with the place differ from 'real' history much? Need to know so I can jump on the history train.

How on earth would the Brits get to Afghanistan.

The same way they did IRL, through Iran or Pakistan

[loomer]

I'll revise my earlier request - anyone who wants their nation to have a significant influence in Afghanistan's history, now is the time to make the bid, since I'm finally writing it all out.

[Fingolfin_Noldor]

Stas, Bean, since Britain and Russia had the biggest impacts on Afghanistan's history pre-1900, did your involvements with the place differ from 'real' history much? Need to know so I can jump on the history train.

How on earth would the Brits get to Afghanistan.

The same way they did IRL, through Iran or Pakistan

I have Iran, Shep has Pakistan.

I'll revise my earlier request - anyone who wants their nation to have a significant influence in Afghanistan's history, now is the time to make the bid, since I'm finally writing it all out.

I would naturally have influence, with trade and investment going both ways at the border, along with I hope, a railway line or two.

[Steve]

Uh... Once again, what time is it in game? I mean, I'll have to keep track of what's happening. I'll back-write battle of Hailar and such, but I need to keep track of time.

http://sdnworld.wikia.com/wiki/SDN_Worl ... _Time_Line

[Raj Ahten]

Before anyone asks I cleared the post with Raj Ahten, I'm sorry for not making it longer or more significant, but I am kept very busy and I wanted to just wrap this up so others could move along. Oh and if its not clear the two fleets basically passed through each other.

Thanks for writing that up. Though I'm sure my admiral knows his sailors looked the best .

[Raj Ahten]

Brazil is a great threat?! Sheeze! This is a country who is straining like crazy just to maintain naval parity with her neighbours and whose army is basically a defensive militia, and yet I'm held up as a Big Bad? Why is no one afraid of Columbia or Peru?

Well Peru has a mountainous border with me and both Peru and Columbia still have small navies. I imagine my planners have nightmares about Cisplatina falling to a communist coup or some nonsense and then "The millions strong hoards of Brazil being free to march to Beunos Aires, while their navy blockades our coast!"

[Steve]

Crossroad, it is the opinion of the mod staff that actually calling your country "Crossroadia" is at odds with the character of this game. I have no objection, however, if you were to state that while the political name of the nation is the Consortium of Borneo or some such, the Consortium's "private branch", so to speak, could be called the Crossroads Corporation or some such.

[CmdrWilkens]

So as stated in the game thread if I've PM'd you with a treaty/diplomatic offer I'm considering that roughly 3 months or so have now passed and we should be moving in to the ratification phase.

[Siege]

A quick note to avoid potential confusion: when I say "Sudanese terrorists" I mean from the Sultanate's portions of Sudan, where a low-level insurgency has been going on ever since we conquered the region. I'm not about to invade the territories of other players... yet .

[Steve]

It's Morales who should bear soime blame too, the decision to sortie the entire Chiletinian Navy like that and send the entire thing off the Brazilian coast was not a wise choice and the Brazilian riposte was brilliant.

[loomer]

And the offer of a significant role in Afghani history is now closed. Looks like its Byzantine dominated!

[Steve]

Well, you probably have a history of occasional conflict with Shepistan too. Though most of their history revolves around the death struggles with the Grand Dominion.

[CmdrWilkens]

All major ship classes are now up, I still need to do Subs but most likely I'm just going to nab historic export designs and use those. Army still needs to finish getting fleshed out but all the Armies are there if the Corps, Division, and Brigade assets are not yet.

[Ryan Thunder]

Okay after a billion edits I've settled on a proposed name for a south american defense pact.

Because Chiletina is becoming bothersome.

[Fingolfin_Noldor]

Is it possible to get a list of who's communist and who's not? It's tad confusing and hard to keep track.

[Ryan Thunder]

Colombia isn't communist, but we tend to side with them.

[Norade]

I'm a Fascist state with a tradition of strong welfare and workers rights coupled with a capitalist drive. Most stores and factories are state owned and leased to companies, those companies that do the best obviously lease the most factories and may own a few outright. In some cases the government runs 'make work' factories that produce simple goods such as wooden toys and such simply to keep people being paid and productive.

[loomer]

Afghanistan: Not communist. I know the name is confusing.

Regarding the new rifle, the plan is for it to be adequate up to 450m and have a maximum (well, maximum under test conditions) range of 2,230m in the first batch of infantry rifles, thanks to some poor rifling. It'll be a 7.7x54mm bolt action that takes 6 round en bloc clips to feed a twelve-round internal magazine. Weight should be nine pounds for the standard infantry.

Cavalry version'll be half a foot shorter, weigh a pound less, and be of course, less accurate and shorter ranged.

[Lascaris]

Brazil is a great threat?! Sheeze! This is a country who is straining like crazy just to maintain naval parity with her neighbours and whose army is basically a defensive militia, and yet I'm held up as a Big Bad? Why is no one afraid of Columbia or Peru?

Well Peru has a mountainous border with me and both Peru and Columbia still have small navies. I imagine my planners have nightmares about Cisplatina falling to a communist coup or some nonsense and then "The millions strong hoards of Brazil being free to march to Beunos Aires, while their navy blockades our coast!"

Pfah. Cisplatina has a considerably stronger army than either Chile/Argentina or Brazil. Since you kids are already hostile to each other and you can't individually threaten Cisplatina...

And the communists are a legal party represented in parliament like the fascist-like Accion des Patriotes on the other end of the spectrum. Their problem for both sides is that it is exceedingly unlikely for either to get to power. The republic has been a bastion of European radical liberals since her creation. By 1925 land reform lies some three generations in the past and Bismarkian style social welfare some 4 decades ago. And for extralegal means it has a very French attitude on internal security...

Of course this also means that Cisplatina was the bogeyman of Latin American conservatives for decades before Brazil went communist if for no other reason because it was the only country in South America to have comprehensively broken the power of the big landowners.

[Lascaris]

Afghanistan: Not communist. I know the name is confusing.

Regarding the new rifle, the plan is for it to be adequate up to 450m and have a maximum (well, maximum under test conditions) range of 2,230m in the first batch of infantry rifles, thanks to some poor rifling. It'll be a 7.7x54mm bolt action that takes 6 round en bloc clips to feed a twelve-round internal magazine. Weight should be nine pounds for the standard infantry.

Cavalry version'll be half a foot shorter, weigh a pound less, and be of course, less accurate and shorter ranged.

Are small arms within sight of the game. If I say I produce a new service rifle what is the gain that can be actually counted?

[loomer]

If nothing else, it provides a distinct feel for Afghanistan and also gives me an existing, established weapons manufacturing industry with which to start making advances into automatics and more advanced firearms.

Also, it has an impact on logistics, since enemy forces can't hijack ammo dumps for their own usage now, unless they can capture enough Mk.1s to outfit their forces in region.

[Thanas]

And first part of the Putsch is up. Sorry if it seems a bit not up to my usual standards, I am a bit pressed on time.

[CmdrWilkens]

If nothing else, it provides a distinct feel for Afghanistan and also gives me an existing, established weapons manufacturing industry with which to start making advances into automatics and more advanced firearms.

Also, it has an impact on logistics, since enemy forces can't hijack ammo dumps for their own usage now, unless they can capture enough Mk.1s to outfit their forces in region.

Yeah but if you want to go that route (towards semi-auto) you could just purchase the Mondragon Modelo 1908 which now fully equips the Mexican Army with a n 8 round semi-automatic and 20 round fully automatic 7mm rifle. Nice to be at the front of that curve

[Thanas]

Well, Germany got the MP18 and of course Steyr Mannlicher is producing semi-automatic rifles.