Mystery plane #5

[Frank Hipper]

Here's one I'm clueless on. Looks like it belongs in a Mos Eisley scrapheap. Lots 'o luck.

[Shaka[Zulu]]

definitely looks like a russian/soviet amphib of some type. since the end of ww2 western designers havent really been interested in amphibs or flying boats, and we likely wouldnt have come up with anything looking like that in any case...

[Sr.mal]

My guess it is an early development of the Ekranoplan.

[Einhander Sn0m4n]

Looks like an ekranoplan to me. I'd like to see one of these in flight tho...

[Shaka[Zulu]]

definitely could be an early CSM (caspian sea monster)... wonder if there is any online data on the early models...

[Shaka[Zulu]]

yes it is definitely an ekronoplan... I dont know which though

[Shaka[Zulu]]

it bears some small resemblance to the AeroRIK dingo... it might be a design that never really made it past the prototype stage.

[Rob Wilson]

Here's one I'm clueless on. Looks like it belongs in a Mos Eisley scrapheap. Lots 'o luck.

It's a VVA-14 by Bartini Beriev. That photo was taken in Monino

http://www.ctrl-c.liu.se/misc/ram/vva-14.html

[Sea Skimmer]

The Russians built alot of different WIG's, even one which would have hauled a half dozen Sunburns. But none of them ever quite worked, control problumes mostly.

[Hotfoot]

Sea Skimmer, that thing looks like the bastard child of a F-14, P-38J, B-17, and a Space Shuttle.

[Howedar]

HighlighIts a Russian ground effect aircraft (Ekranoplane or something), although I don't recall the designation

[Rob Wilson]

Highligh Its a Russian ground effect aircraft (Ekranoplane or something), although I don't recall the designation

I've already said it's a VVA-14, incase anyone still hasn't understood here's exactly the same plane from a different angle

http://www.infinity21.co.kr/non-it/wig_ ... g00166.jpg

You can access that picture and others of th aircraft by going here

http://www.infinity21.co.kr/non-it/wig_ ... t.html#A90

And choosing VVA-14 wreck at Monino.

[Frank Hipper]

Cookies for Rob Wilson and Seaskimmer, and thanks to Seaskimmer for the drawing of the intact monster. I was half afraid it would turn out to be a helicopter, but I saw no rotor remains on top....On another note, I want to go to Monino so bad I can taste it.

[Sea Skimmer]

Here's a better one, side and front view.

[Shaka[Zulu]]

an impressive looking beastie to say the least... I wonder why it didnt work out -- control issues, politics... what?

[Sea Skimmer]

Every WIG aircraft ever has suffered from stability and flight control problems, luckily the low speeds and seaplane hulls allow for easy enough landing when the pilots start to lose control. A modern digital FBW system might be able to make all the needed corrections, but a lot of money will need to be thrown at the problem. Several countries have small-scale programs meant to create aircraft that do medium helicopter sized jobs. But only the US is really in a position to pursue a large cargo carrier. The Russians have been looking for investors for years.

[Shaka[Zulu]]

hmmm... I wonder if a WIG craft of a freewing design might fare better with regard to control. They are incredibly tolerant of CG placement -- in comparison conventional 'fixed' wings are anything but tolerant -- and have simplified control mechanisms due to the fact that they are merely trimmed for a desired alpha (this trim can be adjusted independently for each wing) and dont have to worry about torque effects from a stab. what looks like a stab on the aft fuselage is actually a trim tab that controls fuselage alpha separately from the wings. It might be something interesting to try in a model.