A Gay Forum

Post by **AdmiralKanos** » 2003-02-14 02:44pm

Besides, with 110,000 posts over 7 months, I have little fear of the OT forum becoming a ghost town

Post by **Rob Wilson** » 2003-02-14 03:05pm

OK I realise this is a done deal, but I just thought I'd say that having a Gay Forum shouldn't affect Gay topics here. Having the Mess doesn't preclude us talking about Military stuff here, it just gives us a place where we don't have to worry about offending the civvies, talking plainly, and discussing issues we don't want others to know about, and with the Warwolves adjunct if anyone else needs to know anything about specific Military matters, they can ask one of us and we'll answer or find a member who can.
I beleive the Gay forums could serve the same purpose, provided the members don't ghetto-ize themselves.

Having said that, from my viewpoint I doubt there is anything they could say that would come close to offending me and having discussions on how to face outing and such in an open public forum would disemminate that info faster and not require people to join a group to obtain it(hard to find how to out yourself if you have to simply to get the info! ).

Mr Bean I say give it a few months trial and see whether it works or not, if not you get to say I told you so to all of us, if it does though then it's all to the good.

As to everyone else and their brother starting forums, remember it is only at Mikes discretion, so the chances of a US/Canuck/Brit/Oz/Kiwi only forum are vanishingly small. Precedence only matters in a majority rule situation, and creation of Forums is not under that billing. I don't believe Mike would allow overspecialisation to adversely affect the Board as a whole.

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2003-02-14 03:15pm

-reads topic- what would they talk about there that they couldnt talk about here? o_O

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-02-14 03:18pm

So the idea is to create a forum for people based on there sexual orientation. I've been under the understanding that gay people are no different then anyone else, so creating some separate forum would seem to be a step back. I also just don't see a point period.

Vertigo1 · Post by **Vertigo1** » 2003-02-14 03:19pm

Enforcer Talen wrote:-reads topic- what would they talk about there that they couldnt talk about here? o_O

Exactly. Its not like we're on SB where homophobes reign supreme...

Post by **AdmiralKanos** » 2003-02-14 03:30pm

It's not discrimination; they're not being ghettoized or barred from the main forum, and I have confidence that they will continue to post here. It's not as if the women stopped posting because they got their own forum.

Post by **Rob Wilson** » 2003-02-14 03:37pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:So the idea is to create a forum for people based on there sexual orientation. I've been under the understanding that gay people are no different then anyone else, so creating some separate forum would seem to be a step back. I also just don't see a point period.

As I said, i don't think there is any real need, but I do think that it will be used more as a networking tool and discussion of private matters that the gay members would not want to discuss on an open forum. Provided thy don't marginalise themselves by staying in thier own forum then i don't think it will present a problem. As to justification, what exactly is the Justification of the HAB when you get down to it? Personally I love the place, but it isn't that far removed for the OT forum in concept, and its existance doesn't discriminate against its members the last time I checked

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So to the Moderator of the GALE force, I would urge you to set guidelines now as to how your Forum works. Make sure members know right off the bat what it is really for and that they don't think they can only post Gay matters there (personal gay matters and things they think might be too risque for the main board in general certainly), but please work to ensure you don't end up a self-imposed ghetto.

To everyone else, its a done deal. Mike has spoken and the Forum is up. How it is handled and what does and oesn't go in there is purely up to it's members now.

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2003-02-14 03:54pm

Hey Rob,
As I said earlier, the simple fact that we will have a forum devoted to gay/lesbian issues will provide the impetus to discuss them as broadly as possible. And as to ghetto-ization, I sincerely doubt that will be a problem.

jegs2 · Post by **jegs2** » 2003-02-14 03:58pm

Mr Bean wrote: The Mess Hall therfor is dangerously close to the edge of removing the topic, but due to its Heavly Lingo strew posts and numorus short-hand refances combined with topics mostly based on PERSONAL experance it skips around the edge...

I know that for me, I post more military-related threads on boards outside the Mess Hall, but I leave the Mess Hall for the lingo with which I'm most comfortable and don't have to spend the next half-hour explaining....

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2003-02-14 04:16pm

Thusly the point Jegs, The "inside jokes" as it where of the Military stay in the Mess Hall
But the Which is better AKA-101 VS G36 threads stay out in off-topic land

ArmorPierce · Post by **ArmorPierce** » 2003-02-14 04:28pm

Darth Wong wrote:I think people have presented some interesting reasons not to have a gay forum, but at the same time, I don't think the gay members of the board need to justify themselves if they want one. The only question is whether they do, in fact, want one.

That's not fair, me and at least 30 other members wanted a private forum and we weren't given one, in fact, you totally ignored us

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Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-02-14 04:45pm

ArmorPierce wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:I think people have presented some interesting reasons not to have a gay forum, but at the same time, I don't think the gay members of the board need to justify themselves if they want one. The only question is whether they do, in fact, want one.
That's not fair, me and at least 30 other members wanted a private forum and we weren't given one, in fact, you totally ignored us .

The game forum? I didn't realize there were that many people interested; I never saw the poll thread for it.

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2003-02-14 04:45pm

ArmorPierce wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:I think people have presented some interesting reasons not to have a gay forum, but at the same time, I don't think the gay members of the board need to justify themselves if they want one. The only question is whether they do, in fact, want one.
That's not fair, me and at least 30 other members wanted a private forum and we weren't given one, in fact, you totally ignored us .

I half-ass remember that. What was it for again?

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-02-14 05:04pm

Do we get a heterosexual forum? What about a "Fans of Anal Sex Forum" ?

An adult, "sex topic" forum I see no problem with, and it could be completely no-holds barred (within reason and frowning on the amoral and deviant *looks at Kojikun*) with regards to conversation. But one specifically for non-heterosexuals? I don't think so.

I do not believe that what kind of hole people fancy is sufficient reason to set up a dividing, private, sectionist seperate forum.

Just my $.02. I don't particularly care, and I certainly don't have the problems with it that Shep would, for example.

Stormbringer wrote:
Darth Pounder wrote:How many times do we see the words "Einy thats too much Information".
That's usually because he gets way too detailed for most anyones comfort, straight or gay.

Seconded.

The boil-over was partially asked for by Einy. He did spam ALL THE TIME. And assume everyone wanted to know the specifics of his sex life.

If Wong came on and was like, "Oh we woke up and I couldn't resist the way my wife looked brushing her teeth so I held her down and took her in the ass right there." I'd say, "Mike...you ok?" Because that's too much information and really not needed. Einy's previous (he's shrugged off most things people had beef about after his self-imposed sabbatical) bad habit was attention whoring. The kind of sex or the fact it was sex at all is not the point. They way he did it and the likely reason is.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-02-14 05:51pm

Hmm. I hadnt expected this to get through. Cool.

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2003-02-14 06:03pm

The fact that the GALE Force forum exists is very encouraging to members here who aren't openly gay and to other new members yet to join who are gay/bi. I remember when i 1st came here and i was only just recently open to my sexuality. And because i wasn't sure of the lay of the land i refraind from posting in OT and SLAM threads where i had things to say. I remember feeling relief when i saw certain Einy posts and he wasn't smacked down. Also i would point out that never has a gay member told Einy off about TMI.

BrYaN19kc · Post by **BrYaN19kc** » 2003-02-14 06:37pm

I think a gay forum would be a good idea when topics pop up that str8 members would not be interested in. Let's go for it.

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2003-02-14 06:40pm

Vertigo1 wrote:
Enforcer Talen wrote:-reads topic- what would they talk about there that they couldnt talk about here? o_O
Exactly. Its not like we're on SB where homophobes reign supreme...

I think a good number of SBers are sex-phobic in general.

Post by **Rob Wilson** » 2003-02-14 06:41pm

Mr Bean wrote:Thusly the point Jegs, The "inside jokes" as it where of the Military stay in the Mess Hall
But the Which is better AKA-101 VS G36 threads stay out in off-topic land

So why shouldn't it be the same for the GALE force? I guess we'll see how much it changes things in the future, if at all. *shrug*

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2003-02-14 06:44pm

Rob the diffrence is Gay men don't slave away in the same trenchs for two years with the purpose of training themselves to be able to kill fellow human beings
I see slight diffrent between that and those who wish to shag the fellow memebers of their own sex

Post by **Rob Wilson** » 2003-02-14 06:49pm

Mr Bean wrote:Rob the diffrence is Gay men don't slave away in the same trenchs for two years with the purpose of training themselves to be able to kill fellow human beings
I see slight diffrent between that and those who wish to shag the fellow memebers of their own sex

Don't forget the women.

I meant the context (ie, private discussions of Gay matters, and talking about things they don't want others to know) rather than the literal matter. As I said before I don't think it's neccesary to have a seperate Gay Forum, but they have it and all we can really do now is see how it effects matters in the future.
As Long as I still have Cuddles on the main forums, I'm happy.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2003-02-14 07:01pm

But thusly the point, By becoming Gay do you suddenly transform in to an new form of life? No, same problems as before, just in new varity

Also it gets back to the main point, Less disscusion

Here if I said
X happened to me what should I do?
I can get oh, between 40-90 Suggestions

In GALE, you don't even have fourty memebers, thusly less disscusion, generaly lessoning of exchange

But seriously fokes, the threads gone on long enough, unless you have an excellent non appeal to authority reason, I think its time to lock the thread as we are starting to repeat outselves

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