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), if she decides one day the Na'Vi aren't needed, she can eradicate them at will.
These are perhaps the less retarded questions of the bunch, although using Earth as the absolute benchmark of what traits are "competitive" in a planet like Pandora (that will rarely if ever experience true darkness because of its orbit around a gas giant) is still wrong.Why does everything on the planet have a neural interface? What’s the evolutionary prerogative for a land based herbivore and flight capable carnivore to have a compatible neural interface with to date communication protocols with the Na’vi? Is this evidence that life on Pandora was engineered?
Why does everything glow? Bioluminescence requires energy and there’s only so much of it in any ecosystem. So, unless it offers an advantage in attracting mates/prey or evading predators, genetic mutations that lead to it will be less competitive than those that don’t and will therefore lose the evolutionary race. And yet, everything on Pandora glows…
Somehow the guy seems to have missed that Quaritch could hold a meeting with every human in Hell's Gate attending in a not particularly large mess hall. And that every Na'vi hunter/warrior has air transportation that makes his wet dreams about trenches and minefields useless.Was Quaritch such an idiot that he did not fortify the mining base with trouble brewing on the horizon with the locals? I mean, his people are several thousand years more advanced than the Na’vi and more organized, too, and he says a group of 20000 will overrun the human base if they charge enmasse. Didn’t he order the construction of ditchworks (or whatever they call those), the clearing of killzones, the laying of mines and generally fortifying the base? All he’d have to do is hold out for a week or two and any “army” of Na’vi would melt away as the neighborhood ran out of food.
Head meet wall. Somehow, the idea of using the very expensive and impossible to replace (the interstellar starship only carried two) space shuttle as a kinetic impactor doesn't strike me as a good idea when the bombing run would have worked just fine if Sully hadn't had forewarning about Quaritch' approach vector and timing.Why the hell did the humans fly so low when advancing into the area with the flying mountains? Why not fly as high as possible until the very last moment so that none of the Pandoran forces could range on them at all?
For that matter, why use explosives to off the Sacred Tree? Why not simply crash the big re-entry vehicle at supersonic velocities in a ballistic trajectory?
Once again, guy seems to have missed that the only broken canopy was the one in Quaritch's mech... which had fallen from a exploding ship and even then it required repeated hits with the mech's oversized arm to crack the crystal.Why do the armored suits have glass canopies and not even bullet proof canopies at that?
Never mind that the infantry was carrying body armour.Why were all the human soldiers standing and shooting in the forest with their torsos completely exposed to Na’vi archers?
This guy must have been sleeping through the film. There is no other explanation.Why does Sully think that its better to live as a pre-historic people with all the curses that come with it – uncertainty over next meal, disease, reduced lifespan – is better than living in the modern world with all that entails (education, freedom to choose your life, medicine, security, health, wealth, etc)?
This one is so ludicrously over the top that it probably deserves no commentary.What kind of a freak and a pervert is Sully to fall in love with an alien? I mean, I can understand it if he’d permanently transferred to the alien body, but that wasn’t the case. He was controlling the Na’vi avatar using his mind through a remote connection, and did not do a real transfer until the very end after the miners leave. So, does this mean he’s into beastiality? And does this also mean that we can expect a duck/goat lover for a hero in a movie in the near future?
Sarevok wrote:The fanfic is excellent. It does not take sides.
That wasn't how things happened at all. When Sully ascertained that the Na'vi weren't going to bow to the demands of the RDA and get the fuck out of their home, the RDA discarded negotiation and choose violence by sending the airforce to blow the Hometree.It slams RDA for being incompetent assholes who were acting like amoral colonials. The Navi don't receive any blame. Jake and the traitor scientists had very good intentions but their methods were wrong. They chose violence instead of negotiation.
It is funny that you should mention Fox News, when the author of the story felt the need to make up several facts for further bashing of the movie characters. Like painting Quaritch as a "civilian relations puke" or inventing that his troops had "artillery and mortar teams" that he didn't use to justify his calling the character an incompetent retard.The fanfic explains this clearly. Summed up it highlights what really happened in the movie - all sides except the Navi were guilty when situation turned ugly. Its not exactly high literature but if someone thinks its biased they need to start watching fox news again.
What the fuck?Murazor wrote:It is funny that you should mention Fox News, when the author of the story felt the need to make up several facts for further bashing of the movie characters. Like painting Quaritch as a "civilian relations puke"
Would those have even been useful? The forest would interfere with your ability to fire up and firing foward would be easier done by footsoldiers. They might be able to kill the big creatures, except that would have no effect on the final outcome of the battle which was decided in the sky. The ground attack seems to just have been to crush the Na'vi and prevent them from rallying more troops.inventing that his troops had "artillery and mortar teams" that he didn't use to justify his calling the character an incompetent retard.
The miracle of the internet. I wonder when we will get to a day where all movies have such fans.I've never seen a popular hit movie gain such a thoroughly retarded hatedom this fast.
I think Eywa was probably solving a lot of the logistics problems for them by the simple measure of sending lots of animals toward their position to get killed. If not for that this would have been a good point. Of course Sully couldn't know that he'd have this resource at the beginning, but we don't know what his initial plans were.Arun2110 wrote:The Na’vi had no great stores of food and what there were for the Omaticaya burned down with their tree. As a people they hunted their daily meals and lacked the logistical wherewithal to support large concentrated populations (this was the primary reason for the small size of their tribes.) When Sully united the various tribes for his war, he did not understand that he had at best a month to win the war before his army started running out of food. Fortunately for him, the idiot Quaritch ignored this factum as completely as Sully himself did.
I figure the neural interface's primary role is to serve as a way for Eywa to control the animals. The Na'Vi just exploit it (and lots of parasites, symbiotes, and slavemaker animals which we didn't see probably do the same).Why does everything on the planet have a neural interface? What’s the evolutionary prerogative for a land based herbivore and flight capable carnivore to have a compatible neural interface with to date communication protocols with the Na’vi? Is this evidence that life on Pandora was engineered?
Like I said, I figure it's probably to attract nocturnal polinators.Why does everything glow? Bioluminescence requires energy and there’s only so much of it in any ecosystem. So, unless it offers an advantage in attracting mates/prey or evading predators, genetic mutations that lead to it will be less competitive than those that don’t and will therefore lose the evolutionary race. And yet, everything on Pandora glows…
That shuttle is probably a pretty expensive piece of hardware to just casually destroy like that. In retrospect it might have been a good idea but hindsight is always 20/20. And I'm personally pretty skeptical that Eywa's intelligence was entirely in that one tree, and if I'm right destroying it probably wouldn't have done as much good as Quaritch thought it would anyway. If they had a spare sattelite thruster on hand slapping a bunch of junk on it and using it as an improvised RFG would probably have been a better idea, but again, I'm skeptical of how much good it would have really done.For that matter, why use explosives to off the Sacred Tree? Why not simply crash the big re-entry vehicle at supersonic velocities in a ballistic trajectory?
It simplified the logistics chain only to use the simpler equipment required for open-pit mining. Given that they were dealing with a sparsely populated world and shipping was supposedly super-expensive it probably seemed like a sensible decision at the time.And finally, why didn't the human miners do their mining with tunnels. Surely, for a mineral worth 20 million dollars back on earth, they could build whatever support was needed to support home tree underground and then mine out the reserves?
Also, whenever they are touched they light up. It could help attract predators to eat the herbivores that would otherwise get them. However, as more plants have the adaption, they would have to get brighter in order to compete.Like I said, I figure it's probably to attract nocturnal polinators.
Did this fucktard writer miss the part where thousands of Na'vi were surrounding the human camp, preparing to overrun it? Quaritch knew that offense is the best defense, which is why he reacted with a preemptive strike against the tree.Arun2110 wrote:The Na’vi had no great stores of food and what there were for the Omaticaya burned down with their tree. As a people they hunted their daily meals and lacked the logistical wherewithal to support large concentrated populations (this was the primary reason for the small size of their tribes.) When Sully united the various tribes for his war, he did not understand that he had at best a month to win the war before his army started running out of food. Fortunately for him, the idiot Quaritch ignored this factum as completely as Sully himself did.
Yes, sacrifice one of the few (couple?) actual spaceships that you have, when any resupplies from Earth would have taken half a fucking decade to get there. Because jumping straight to a kamikaze attack is more sensible than simply dropping bombs. Oh, wait.For that matter, why use explosives to off the Sacred Tree? Why not simply crash the big re-entry vehicle at supersonic velocities in a ballistic trajectory?
You know, I thought fanfiction implied that the author was an actual FAN of a fictional story. This "fanfic" was nothing but bashing, and unfounded bashing to boot. The writer clearly missed the point on numerous things, if in fact he was being honest and not intentionally twisting the facts to fit his own personal dislike of the movie.Junghalli wrote:PS, his fanfic has the Na'Vi and/or Eywa act like retards for not making any attempt to negotiate with humans when they came back or any concessions when threatened with getting smacked with a dino-killer (let's leave alone the assumption that the human society in Avatar needs unobtanium bad enough to commit genocide over it). They act like much worse retards there then you can accuse them of acting like in the film.
Are you AN ASS?Sarevok wrote:The fanfic is excellent. It does not take sides. It slams RDA for being incompetent assholes who were acting like amoral colonials. The Navi don't receive any blame. Jake and the traitor scientists had very good intentions but their methods were wrong. They chose violence instead of negotiation.
Bioluminescence requires energy and there's only so much of it in any ecosystem that has evolved in an environment where flying sky-mountains are a common occurrence.Why does everything glow? Bioluminescence requires energy and there’s only so much of it in any ecosystem. So, unless it offers an advantage in attracting mates/prey or evading predators, genetic mutations that lead to it will be less competitive than those that don’t and will therefore lose the evolutionary race. And yet, everything on Pandora glows…
Because there are flying mountains everywhere around the Sacred Tree?For that matter, why use explosives to off the Sacred Tree? Why not simply crash the big re-entry vehicle at supersonic velocities in a ballistic trajectory?
Why didn't the Shell company order a shitload of landmines around its oil wells?Was Quaritch such an idiot that he did not fortify the mining base with trouble brewing on the horizon with the locals? I mean, his people are several thousand years more advanced than the Na’vi and more organized, too, and he says a group of 20000 will overrun the human base if they charge enmasse. Didn’t he order the construction of ditchworks (or whatever they call those), the clearing of killzones, the laying of mines and generally fortifying the base? All he’d have to do is hold out for a week or two and any “army” of Na’vi would melt away as the neighborhood ran out of food.
"DO YOU WORSHIP HOMOSEXUALS?" - Curtis Saxton (source) - PeZookYeah, after fifteen years of abuse at the hands of the RDA while the company fought a legal battle on Earth, the natives would've been totally fine with a diplomatic solution. Sure.Deplorable though were the decisions that the Head of the Mining Operation Parker Selfridge and Quaritch made, their actions were illegal and in direct violation of the mining charter. Sully could have gathered evidence of their actions and pleaded the indigene’s case with the concerned authorities after returning to Earth. This process could have taken a decade – due mostly to the transit times between Earth and Pandora – and a few Na’vi tribes may have suffered at the hands of the miners, but it would have preserved the peace between our peoples.
) and those shaved hair used for textiles, not to mention the slave labor and all the lebensraum, justifies this. lol "DO YOU WORSHIP HOMOSEXUALS?" - Curtis Saxton (source) - PeZook 
"DO YOU WORSHIP HOMOSEXUALS?" - Curtis Saxton (source) - PeZook
"Traitor scientists"Sarevok wrote:Jake and the traitor scientists had very good intentions but their methods were wrong. They chose violence instead of negotiation.
Like they (scientists) should have had loyalty to some greedy corporation perfectly willing to graze the Na'Vi or even mass slaughter them to get the unobtanium. Why?But Stas! The RDA paid for their transportation! This means the company owns their souls! Didn't you see how Grace was compelled to do anything Selfridge said? It was totally in the movie, dude! Totally!Stas Bush wrote: "Traitor scientists"
"DO YOU WORSHIP HOMOSEXUALS?" - Curtis Saxton (source) - PeZook
An armchair genocidal warmonger who actually advocates to doing it to real people in real countries. At least the Avatar haters confine their stupidity to fictional universes.Anguirus wrote:Is anything sadder than an armchair genocidal warmonger?
"DO YOU WORSHIP HOMOSEXUALS?" - Curtis Saxton (source) - PeZook
So what you are saying is, one man (the Na'vi) finds a dead mammoth (mineral resources), but he has just eaten so he doesn't need it. Another man who is starving to death (the humans) comes along and pleads to be allowed to carve up the corpse for meat. The first man refuses because it would make a mess. A fight breaks out and the starving man looks like he will win, until the first man's pet tiger arrives and kills him. The first man goes back to staring at the dead mammoth, which is still useless to him.Shroom Man 777 wrote:Just like a primitive shit-fucking Cro-Magnon killing another man so he can steal the dead mammoth corpse for food.
