Clone Wars season 2

[VT-16]

Yeah, he kicks an extra lot of ass around Mandalorians. Taking out one of the airborne troops by throwing a spare jetpack and shooting it was pretty cool.
And another instance of Jedis using guns when they have no other option.

[The Romulan Republic]

Pre Viszla, using an ancient stolen lightsabre and backed up by three armored guards, can't defeat Obi-Wan without resorting to missiles. That's how they are matched.

Except for his initial capture by two Mandos of course.

Anyway, I loved the Mandalorian city. Absolutely beautiful. I also liked what to me was pretty obvious romantic tension between Kenobi and the Governor. Keep up the hypocrisy, Jedi.

Also, the episode was somewhat lacking in resolution. Death Watch has escaped, and the crisis isn't really resolved. This episode just begs for a sequel.

[Srelex]

Incidentally, has there been any crying over the whole 'Mandalorian pacifism' thing yet elsewhere, like on TFN?

[VT-16]

Also, the episode was somewhat lacking in resolution. Death Watch has escaped, and the crisis isn't really resolved. This episode just begs for a sequel.

They have promoted this as a trilogy of episodes, you know.

Incidentally, has there been any crying over the whole 'Mandalorian pacifism' thing yet elsewhere, like on TFN?

Yes, much anguish and villification of Lucas. I like how the press releases imply the EU depictions of the Mandalore culture and history is essentially "fan debates".

[Srelex]

Yes, much anguish and villification of Lucas. I like how the press releases imply the EU depictions of the Mandalore culture and history is essentially "fan debates".

How much involvement did Lucas have with this particular episode or the depiction of the Mandalorians? I can imagine one Lucasfilm employee cackling in his office while he thinks of the best ways to get the Fandalorians red-faced...

[VT-16]

There really was a big involvement from Lucas on these episodes in particular. According to Dave Filoni, Lucas produced an outline of the story, as he's apparantly done for all the season 2 episodes. He then laid out his look on the Mandalorian warrior culture and how to create some conflict when that culture is changed by pacifists. He even made and named the "Darksabre" when he didn't like the vibroblade weapon Vizsla was originally fighting with.

[Srelex]

Ah, I see. So, let's hate Lucas for this addition to his list of crimes--making the Mandos something other than a 2D Proud Warrior Race!

[Old Plympto]

"The peaceful ways of the locals wore me out a bit."

That just cracked me up. So very Obi-Wan.

[TC Pilot]

I also liked what to me was pretty obvious romantic tension between Kenobi and the Governor. Keep up the hypocrisy, Jedi.

I take it you mean the Duchess, not the governor (the leader of Death Watch)?

[Darksider]

I also liked what to me was pretty obvious romantic tension between Kenobi and the Governor. Keep up the hypocrisy, Jedi.

I take it you mean the Duchess, not the governor (the leader of Death Watch)?

Meh, somebody'll write a fic about it, people on the internet are weird like that.

As for the hypocrisy angle, IIRC while Jedi are apparently tossed out of the order for forming long-term commitments, they aren't above having an occasional dalliance now and then. Obi-Wan has also been "romantic" with Siri Tachi, Adi Gallia's apprentice. They may be retconning the "no love" thing slightly, and even if they did loosen the rules a little bit, Anakin and Padme's "relationship"( ) could still be a no-no because he's a Jedi and she's a Senator.

[RogueIce]

Is it just me or was Obi-Wan made of win and awesome in that episode?

Barring the initial incident of getting captured by a pair of Mandalorians, (everyone has a bad day) he completely owned everyone.

He took down more than a few in hand to hand combat. Hand to hand combat. So much for the vaunted beskar armor? Oh, and all the uber-Mando HtH in Betrayal. That and the capital on Mandalore was probably the most beautiful planetside location I've seen in SW. So much for the poor, downtrodden Mandalore I read about in Order 66.

No wonder Traviss quit.

[The Romulan Republic]

They have promoted this as a trilogy of episodes, you know.

No I didn't, but I'm glad to here it. Nor am I really surprised, given how this show is unusual in being more multi-episode arcs than stand-alone episodes.

[The Romulan Republic]

I also liked what to me was pretty obvious romantic tension between Kenobi and the Governor. Keep up the hypocrisy, Jedi.

I take it you mean the Duchess, not the governor (the leader of Death Watch)?

Yeah, I meant the the Duchess.

Also, sorry for the double post.

[SylasGaunt]

So the second part played Friday, anyone catch it?

Those assassin droids are entirely too much like a recent experience I had with a spider at home (arachnophobe here).

Also I noticed they managed to sneak the vader music in again.

[RogueIce]

Also I noticed they managed to sneak the vader music in again.

Oh? What scene was this? I didn't notice Anakin doing anything too Vaderish and I must've missed the music.

I rather liked this episode. So we're up to...two traitors in the Senate? And again the Senate Commandoes go down like punks. heh...

What was up with the 1800s naval captain guy? Some Republic uniform or a Mandalore thing?

[Darwin]

Also I noticed they managed to sneak the vader music in again.

Oh? What scene was this? I didn't notice Anakin doing anything too Vaderish and I must've missed the music.

I rather liked this episode. So we're up to...two traitors in the Senate? And again the Senate Commandoes go down like punks. heh...

What was up with the 1800s naval captain guy? Some Republic uniform or a Mandalore thing?

When he stabbed the traitor senator from behind.

The mandalorian guard actually were deflecting and in some cases reflecting blaster fire from the SBDs. I was impressed. Perhaps they use force sensitives? (Not being strictly a member of the Republic, they would be able to do what they wanted with any force sensitives discovered in the population)

The big ship's wheel was awesome.

[VT-16]

Nice that the trilogy doesn't end Mandalorian involvement in the series, Spoiler

Vizsla just gets told by Dooku to halt his invasion of Mandalore due to the lack of indigenous support. Many nice visuals too, like the nebula behind the CIS fleet, the Manarai peak with Ralph McQuarrie's café designs surrounding it, the extensive amount of Aurebesh adverts (hopefully they're translatable) and Mon Mothma making a cameo.

[The Romulan Republic]

And once again Palpatine runs circles around everyone in the political arena Spoiler

(at least until the very end of the episode).

On the other hand, actually trying to Spoiler

frame Duchess Satine for murder

seemed a bit too obvious.

I liked how they actually portrayed Satine and her people's pacifism as a legitimate system worth upholding; my experience in the past has been that when pacifism is portrayed on action-oriented TV shows, it is usually portrayed as foolish and naive. It was nice to see an exception to that.

Also, the episode did a great job at maintaining some suspense. Spoiler

There were moments that I really thought Duchess Satine might not make it to the end of the episode, and she was a sympathetic enough character that I think I really would have cared if she died.

Visuals were good as VT-16 observed (the opening shots of Coruscant and the Senate especially caught my notice), and we got some nice Mandalorian vs Kenobi fighting again. Plus some more glimpses of Coruscant law enforcement, including police/Clone equipment that I hadn't seen before- the little flying droid used by the Coruscant police, and the big shields (comparable to those used by riot cops, perhaps?) that the Clones on Coruscant were carrying.

Despite some minor flaws, this was a decent episode. Not my favorite of the series, but decent.

[Thanas]

Also - this is the third episode in the series where we have seen people accomplish similar things that jedi manage, either through biology and/or training.

[VT-16]

Spoiler

That jump from the crash landing was insane. The speed they were going at, not to mention the height they fell should have caused more damage. I guess the armored guards shielded the Duchess and took most of the blow.

That scene was the second I can remember which uses a cool POV shot. When they're heading for the skyscraper and see a platform, you could really sense the speed they were going at.

I had a similar reaction to the "exiting hyperspace" shot from Grievous Intrigue, going past the fighting ships. Cool that they're expanding the film techniques as well.

[Srelex]

/What was the name of the episode, just to clarify?

[Thanas]

Spoiler

That jump from the crash landing was insane. The speed they were going at, not to mention the height they fell should have caused more damage. I guess the armored guards shielded the Duchess and took most of the blow.

Yes, they surrounded her like a cocoon. Still, the kinetic energy alone should have killed all of them unless their armour somehow absorbs it. These royal guards clearly are no ordinary guards - either they have power armour or they are force-sensitive.

[VT-16]

The fact that they can block/deflect laser bolts in Voyage of Temptation hints at the second.

[Thanas]

I'm not sure about that, given that we see non-force sensitive Imperial Royal guardsmen like Kir Kanos doing the same thing.

[VT-16]

Ah.

I notice that one of the holofeed messages in Lightsaber Lost actually mentions Kuat Drive Yards. Something about them being awarded a contract or something ("award") was the only thing I made out next to the name before it cut off. Nice.