Na'vi Vs. Predator

[PkbonupePeter_Kcos8]

Suppose that a Predator were to chose Pandora as a hunting ground. How do you think it would play out?

The Predator obviously has a pretty major technological advantage, so I'm going to lay out the contest three ways:

A). A straight up hand-to-hand brawl unarmed. There is precedent for this in the Predator's fight with arnold in the first movie.

B). A hand-to-hand fight with melee weapons. The Predator gets to use his wrist blades, whereas te Na'vi warrior is able to use whatever H2H weapon suits him best, or whatever Predator tech he is able to capture (think Danny Glover's character in Predator 2).

C). A traditional Predator hunt, where both sides are able to use whatever weapons are cannonically appropriate.

It would seem to me that the Na'vi is taller than a predator, and probably a bit faster and more agile. The Predator, on the other hand; definitely has an edge in terms of brute strength and durability.

I will provide the following links to wiki and avatar wiki for background information.


http://james-camerons-avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Na%27vi

Na'vi-

Smooth skin is iridescent, cyan color. Long tails. High cheekbones, feline-like ears and nose as well as large golden eyes. Bioluminescent markings that seem to follow the path of the circulatory or nervous system aid in identification and mood display. Average lifespan is unknown.
Despite skin color, Na'vi have red blood.[1]
Waist is narrow and elongated. The shoulders are very wide, creating a V-shaped upper back. The neck is long and body slender. Musculature sharply defined, giving no sense of emaciation despite thin proportions.[2]
Skeleton is reinforced with naturally occurring carbon fiber. Average male is 3 meters (9.8 feet) tall, females slightly smaller.[1]
Tail that can be moved and controlled like any other appendage and is used primarily for balance. It is frequently used to express emotion and is the basis for the Na'vi saying: "Watch your tail, Child!"
Average male has a mass around 162 kg. In Pandoran gravity (0.8 Earth g) they weigh 1271.38 N or 286 lb (compared to 1589.22 N or 357 lb in Earth's gravity.) Female mass slightly less due to lighter build and slightly shorter stature.
Three long fingers plus opposable thumb on hands; four toes on feet. (It should be noted that the Na'vi/human hybrid Avatars have five digits on both hands and feet.)
Highly evolved nervous system includes a "Queue" which resembles a long, rather ostentatious hair braid. This seemingly conventional braid actually sheathes a remarkably intricate system of neural tendrils that can be connected to similar structures of other life-forms. See Queue.[3]
They have roughly four times the strength of the average human.[2]
Reproduction mechanics similar to humans and other Terran mammals.[4]
The Na'vi are fundamentally different from all other Pandoran mammals:

They only have four limbs, while every other medium-to-large-bodied animals have a total of six limbs. (Prolemuris has four limbs, its front limbs branching out into two sets of "forearms")
They have only a single pair of eyes, while most other beings have two pairs of eyes, one primary set and another, smaller set.
All other animals have two nerve clusters extending backward from the head, while the Na'vi only have a single nerve cluster located in their queue. (Prolemuris also has a single cue, partially covered in hair)
Many animals possess twin air intakes on the shoulders that supply air and keep their internal body temperature down, while the Na'vi possess no such structures.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predator_(alien)

Predator

Predators are physically distinguished from humans by their greater height, arthropod-like mandibles and long, hair-like appendages on their heads. Their bodies are resilient to damage, capable of recovering from multiple gunshot wounds[1][2] and radiation doses which would be fatal to humans.[2] They are much stronger than humans, having been portrayed as being easily capable of outmatching a conditioned adult human male[1] and shattering solid concrete with their bare hands. They are also skilled climbers, and will readily move through trees[1] or across rooftops[2] in pursuit of prey. Though capable of surviving exposed in Antarctic temperatures for an extended period of time[3], it is implied that Predators have a preference for hot equatorial climates.[1][2] Their blood is luminescent phosphor green in color. Their vision operates mainly in the infrared portion of the electromagnetic spectrum; they can easily detect heat differentials in their surroundings but are unable to easily distinguish among objects of the same relative temperature.[1] A Predator's hunting helmet increases its ability to see in a variety of spectrums, ranging from the low infrared to the high ultraviolet, and also filters the ambient heat from the area, allowing them to see things with greater clarity and detail.[2] While they are capable of breathing Earth's atmosphere,[1] the creature in Predator 2 is seen using a breathing mask after losing his helmet. Their dietary habits are also mentioned in Predator 2, where it is revealed that the creature regularly visits a slaughterhouse every two days to feed on the stored meat there.[2]

Throughout their film appearances, Predators have undergone numerous design variations. In Predator 2, the main Predator was designed to look more urban and hip than its predecessor. Design changes included tribal ornamentation on the forehead, which was made steeper and shallower, brighter skin colouration and a greater number of fangs.[11] In Alien vs. Predator, the appearance of the Predators was redesigned to make them seem more heroic. Redesigns included a reduction in head and waist size, broader shoulders, a more muscular physique, piranha-like teeth on the upper jaw and dryer, less clammy skin to further differentiate them from the Aliens.[12] In Aliens vs Predator: Requiem, the Predator was returned to the sleeker design concept prior to Alien vs. Predator.[13]

FIGHT!

[Shroom Man 777]

In the first two scenarios, the Na'vi take it. Unarmed, or with melee weapons, the Predator goes down like a bitch against the Na'vi. They're fucking tall and fucking strong, and they can bitchslap Marines with their bows in a way the Predator never could've done with Ahnuld.

Situation C, I don't know. Barring some incident like Arnold, the Predator will definitely kill a fuckton of Na'vi unless/until he gets unlucky. The Predator has all the advantages.

[Oskuro]

I think you're underestimating the Preds, Shroomy, you know, the guys that can take a point-blank magnum shot to the chest and survive.

Also, the movies usually don't properly show how agile the Preds are (take a look at the jumps the Pred was doing while cloaked in the original movie), probably due to effects limitations when the actual costume is shown.

I think Pandora would be a valuable hunting ground for the Predators, and seeing how they operate (code of honor and all that) they would probably fight the Na'vi with hand-to-hand weapons, and maybe nets and discs, but would most certainly refrain from using the Plasmacaster or other ranged weaponry.

Of course, the Pred silly code of honor won't prevent them from using the cloak, wich gives them a massive advantage aganist any opponent, specially in the outrageously colorful Pandora.

[PkbonupePeter_Kcos8]

Personally, I think that the Predator is going to take A) pretty easily. We've seen Predators take multiple shotgun blasts to the chest before and come out ok. We've also seen them pick up aliens and swing them against walls hard enough to shatter concrete.

The Na'vi is basically just a really big blue human being with its strength scaled up accordingly. The Predator is a walking tank.

Unless the Na'vi knows some serious Martial Arts that we are unaware of which allow him to exploit his greater agility on foot (as pointed out by Oskuro, the Predator may have superior agility in the trees), I can't see this going very well for the Na'vi.

B) is a bit more unsure. We've seen Preds using melee weapons in the movies, and they frankly aren't all that impressive. I could see a Na'vi being able to dodge a Pred's attacks and counter fairly effectively. They would just need a weapon made of materials strong enough to actually survive a parry by the Pred's wrist blades.

C) is probably going to the Predator minus some form of plot wankery. However, I've got to imagine that Pandora's massive fauna would give even a Pred trouble.

[takemeout_totheblack]

The problem here is that we have a accurately defined and quantified species on one side (the Na'vi) and a somewhat more enigmatic species on the other (Preds)
The Na'vi are stated to be around 4x as strong as a human and have been shown to be quite shock absorbent judging from the 'carbon fiber bones' and all the leaping and hopping they do. However, they have been shown to be fairly vulnerable to marine-standard military hardware (although the parameters of these fire arms are unknown)
Predators on the other hand have a consistent but unquantified streak of superhuman strength (backhanding Ah-nold a good 3 meters or so, tearing through the roof of a subway train in Predator 2, moving a large wooden log while wounded, etc) and have been shown as very hardy and tough in regards to military grade hardware (sustained a leg wound in predator 1 without significant loss of performance, withstood several point blank center-mass shots from a weapon shown to have shot through a car door and then two people in pred 2 and still feel healthy enough to be snarky and toss a Danny Glover sized man across the room) So I'd probably feel that the Na'vi are at least matched by a Predator strength-wise but are apparently outclassed in durability.

Agility wise I find myself leaning towards the Na'vi, but there are several Pred comics that depict Preds keeping pace with things like a car and a hover thingy by jumping. I choose not to regard the comics as they seem to vary to an astonishing degree. Although never explicitly shown the Predator would need to have a least comparable agility to the Na'vi to get where it does a quickly as it does. A few of the games have predators with 10 meter vertical jumps and such, but again it could just be a embellishment for the sake of game play.

A pretty even match! The Na'vi know the terrain and skilled hunters in their own right, they're no pansies either. Preds do have a technology advantage, but have been known to for go said advantage for the sake of fairness. If it comes to a fist fight I'd have to side with the Predator; a life time of training in close quarters combat in addition to being outrageously tough would give the Predator the edge. If it comes to a Meelee weapon show down, the Na'vi's superior reach and considerable speed would probably give it the advantage, but the toughness of their fairly simple Meelee weapons are questionable especially when compared to the Pred's wrist blades and glaive material.

Ranged combat is no contest. The Na'vi are good marksman but the Pred has active camouflage, advanced plasma weaponry with laser sighting and its mask has a myriad of sight settings. I'm not sure whether or not Na'vi neurotoxin would work against a Predator.

That's my opinion on the matter.

[adam_grif]

In a traditional predator hunt, the Na'Vi are going to get slaughtered. Shoulder cannon = god mode.

[Jade Owl]

Would the unobtanium interfere in any way with the Predator tech?

[takemeout_totheblack]

There's no evidence that magnetic fields (even ones that levitate mountains) affect the cloak or the other systems. Maybe the plasma caster, but that's only if it's in the Hallelujah Mountain range where the field is at its most ridiculous. In Pred 2 they use an irradiated dust to disperse its light bending abilities, that and water. Other than that I don't think Ewya would interfere with an whatsis field as the Predators, while a horrific danger to their prey, are usually very discreet and unobtrusive creatures.

(PS they only use their self destruct mechanism when bested by technologically advanced prey (humans) to prevent their tech from getting out, or when a Xenomorph infestation is beyond their ability to suppress and they feel they must destroy the nest to preserve the hunting ground.

[Stark]

Saying a predator takes multiple shotgun blasts and 'doesn't care' is ridiculous. These ARE the guys who scream like a bitch when performing first aid. Turns out Predator showed an alien hunter using technology to neuter modern American soldiers, and Predator 2 showed a superhero immune to everything?

[takemeout_totheblack]

Saying a predator takes multiple shotgun blasts and 'doesn't care' is ridiculous. These ARE the guys who scream like a bitch when performing first aid. Turns out Predator showed an alien hunter using technology to neuter modern American soldiers, and Predator 2 showed a superhero immune to everything?

We didn't say 'doesn't care if it gets shot'
I imagine it's sort of like getting sucker-punched really hard, it hurts like a bitch and will lay you out on your ass for a moment, but in the long run doesn't do too much to slow you down and more than likely piss you off! Especially when these guys are supposed to be well trained 'hunter/warrior/derpy doo' types!
BTW their first aid isn't exactly bunnies and morphine, IIRC he poured some kind of liquid into the bullet wound and then clamped it shut with metal tongs, and again in predator 2 pushed some kind of burning hot recently on fire goo into his open wounds and stabbed himself with a huge needle thing (adrenaline?)
You're telling me you wouldn't flinch?

[adam_grif]

Saying a predator takes multiple shotgun blasts and 'doesn't care' is ridiculous. These ARE the guys who scream like a bitch when performing first aid. Turns out Predator showed an alien hunter using technology to neuter modern American soldiers, and Predator 2 showed a superhero immune to everything?

Maybe the one from the first movie was a girl. Despite what trek would have us believe, sexual dimorphism doesn't always mean space boobs.

[Stark]

We didn't say 'doesn't care if it gets shot'

multiple shotgun blasts to the chest before and come out ok

I think 'come out ok' is a bit of an exaggeration, since he died shortly afterward. One also survived briefly after having a giant log dropped on its head, but it was clearly totally fucked.

multiple shotgun blasts to the chest before and come out okI imagine it's sort of like getting sucker-punched really hard, it hurts like a bitch and will lay you out on your ass for a moment, but in the long run doesn't do too much to slow you down and more than likely piss you off!

Based on what? I'm pretty sure in Pred2 he's got giant holes blown in his chest; Predators possibly have very rigid sternums (or some shit). In Predator it was pretty clear that if the alien was caught by serious fire it'd be toast.

BTW their first aid isn't exactly bunnies and morphine, IIRC he poured some kind of liquid into the bullet wound and then clamped it shut with metal tongs, and again in predator 2 pushed some kind of burning hot recently on fire goo into his open wounds and stabbed himself with a huge needle thing (adrenaline?)
You're telling me you wouldn't flinch?

Are you a fucking moron? He got clipped by a bullet (I'm not sure if it's clear he dug it out) and so he disinfected and clamped the wound shut. So... single bullets are wounds worth caring about, pain tolerance not hugely superior to human. Hardly 'take multiple shotgun blasts and be ok'.

In Predator 2 an alien operated for some time after having its arm chopped off. Would you say that it 'came out ok'?

[BLACKSUN2000]

Maybe the one from the first movie was a girl. Despite what trek would have us believe, sexual dimorphism doesn't always mean space boobs.

I rember reading that the Predator females were much larger and stronger than their male counterparts.

Also I remember reading that the predator homeworld had higher gravity than earth. So if the predator was running around a city, jumping roof to roof and hanging human corpses from 40foot+ ceilings in a matter of minutes, imagine his speed and agility on pandora.

As for the predator durability he took several point blank shotgun blast's to the abdomen & chest. If we assume they were slugs those are usually 1 oz. and .65 caliber traveling @1500+FPS and have more than 700 foot pounds of energy @ 50 yards nevermind point blank.

Does anyone know what predator breathes or the makeup of Pandora's Atmosphere? Just curious.

[adam_grif]

Predators breathe oxygen, but it's unknown as to whether Pandora's atmosphere would be toxic to them. No real way to tell.

[takemeout_totheblack]

Are you a fucking moron? He got clipped by a bullet (I'm not sure if it's clear he dug it out) and so he disinfected and clamped the wound shut. So... single bullets are wounds worth caring about, pain tolerance not hugely superior to human. Hardly 'take multiple shotgun blasts and be ok'.

In Predator 2 an alien operated for some time after having its arm chopped off. Would you say that it 'came out ok'?

No, I wouldn't. I never said the thing 'came out ok', it died shortly after (however that probably had more to do with Danny Glover shoving a smart disc into its guts). I'll accept that the Pred was weakened by its injuries, allowing Glover's character to kill it. But that's not what I'm arguing.
What I'm arguing is that Preds are far and away much much tougher than humans, and in all likelihood, the Na'vi.

Ok, I'll put it this way. In Predator 2 the titular monster was shot 4 times (3 torso, 1 upper side of right thigh) with a weapon that was explicitly shown to have shot through a car door (no great feat) and then through 2 guys (I can't remember if they were wearing body armor, but probably not). The creature was knocked clear off its feet and appeared to be out cold for a moment. But then, it woke up and threw a 200 pound Danny Glover (he's a big guy) clear across a room, decapitated Gary Bucy (sp?) fought Danny Glover some more, lost its hand, patched itself up, and then proceeded to run (climbing/jumping/what not) back to its ship and was then fought and killed by Glover's character.
Do I even need to explain in how many ways that makes a Predator unbelievably tough? Apparently.
Glover was using what appeared to be a compact combat shotgun, a modified Remington 1100 IIRC. The penetration of aforementioned car door and thugs and the lack of spray damage leads me to believe that he was using slug rounds. Slug rounds from a 12 gauge combat rifle.
And the Pred was shot 4 times, 3 times in what is assumed to be a vital area (torso).
The fact that it was able to stand, let alone put up a prolonged fight whilst running, shows how tough these bastards are! A 12 gauge slug not only pulverizes your insides and pulps your muscles it also causes a shit load of hydrostatic shock (at least I think it does, any gun enthusiast feel free to correct me)
For a creature to survive this kind of weapon at that range (3-4m) the muscle tissue would have to be incredibly dense and the bones and circulatory system would have to be a great deal hardier than ours. Preds are tough. Really tough. To say that being shot by a 12 gauge and being slowed down by it isn't saying that they are pussies, it makes them extra badass for surviving in the first place!

[Shroom Man 777]

The Predator in Predator 2 had to resort to ridiculous alien first aid by creating antibiotics or antiseptic ointment from molten concrete and shit concocted in that bathroom, and again - as STRAK says - he screamed like a bitch upon applying that medication into himself.

In situation B.) we got to remember that the Na'vi have pretty nasty CQC weapons. While the Predator might have sonic-electronic ballbreakers and independently-targeting particle beam phalanxes, the Na'vi DO have sharp sticks coated in deadly neurotoxin.

If Situation C.) has the Na'vi aware that they are being hunted by invisible aliens, I think they may have a shot if they sicked xeno-wolves or other kinds of hunting animals at the Predator. Maybe.

[takemeout_totheblack]

I feel the need to reiterate that bullet wounds aren't fun. Just because anything screams when it shoves burning hot jelly into a recently made hole in its body doesn't make it a 'bitch'. Na'vi make a lot more silly noises than Preds do anyway!
As for the neurotoxin, would it work on a Pred? They do have green blood, maybe a different biochemistry, maybe their neurons use different transmitter chemicals? Who knows? That's one of the problems I had entering this thread, the Na'vi are relatively detailed in how they work, there's a lot of canon work behind how and why they can do what they can. Preds? They breath a more nitrogen rich air than we do (I think?) they're a whole lot stronger than us and a whole lot tougher because...quantum? There's very little absolutely clear canon on how and why they work, and that's why I'll just take what I can from the movies, and so far I take that the Na'vi are screwed in every way. Unless Jake Sully fights the Pred, then his plotainium armor would kick in and that Pred'll be in a world of hurt and pointy things.
Your theory on using Viper-wolves as trackers is intriguing, because I remember Gary Bucy saying something about a pheromone trail when they were tracking the Pred in the second movie.

[Shroom Man 777]

The Predator has not displayed too incredible strength levels when it throws around Arnold or xenomorphs. I mean, geeze, the Na'vi can do that with their sticks easily.

Then again, the Predator was also able to keep on fighting despite losing an arm. That's just nuts! But yeah, the fact that the Pred got beat in hand to hand by Danny Glover and stuff isn't a good indicator of how badass it is.

[Stark]

No, I wouldn't. I never said the thing 'came out ok', it died shortly after (however that probably had more to do with Danny Glover shoving a smart disc into its guts). I'll accept that the Pred was weakened by its injuries, allowing Glover's character to kill it. But that's not what I'm arguing.
What I'm arguing is that Preds are far and away much much tougher than humans, and in all likelihood, the Na'vi.

I haven't seen Avatar, but predator durability is often overstated.

Ok, I'll put it this way. In Predator 2 the titular monster was shot 4 times (3 torso, 1 upper side of right thigh) with a weapon that was explicitly shown to have shot through a car door (no great feat) and then through 2 guys (I can't remember if they were wearing body armor, but probably not). The creature was knocked clear off its feet and appeared to be out cold for a moment. But then, it woke up and threw a 200 pound Danny Glover (he's a big guy) clear across a room, decapitated Gary Bucy (sp?) fought Danny Glover some more, lost its hand, patched itself up, and then proceeded to run (climbing/jumping/what not) back to its ship and was then fought and killed by Glover's character.
Do I even need to explain in how many ways that makes a Predator unbelievably tough? Apparently.
Glover was using what appeared to be a compact combat shotgun, a modified Remington 1100 IIRC. The penetration of aforementioned car door and thugs and the lack of spray damage leads me to believe that he was using slug rounds. Slug rounds from a 12 gauge combat rifle.
And the Pred was shot 4 times, 3 times in what is assumed to be a vital area (torso).
The fact that it was able to stand, let alone put up a prolonged fight whilst running, shows how tough these bastards are! A 12 gauge slug not only pulverizes your insides and pulps your muscles it also causes a shit load of hydrostatic shock (at least I think it does, any gun enthusiast feel free to correct me)
For a creature to survive this kind of weapon at that range (3-4m) the muscle tissue would have to be incredibly dense and the bones and circulatory system would have to be a great deal hardier than ours. Preds are tough. Really tough. To say that being shot by a 12 gauge and being slowed down by it isn't saying that they are pussies, it makes them extra badass for surviving in the first place!

Yeah, all that (lol hydrostatic shock) or he has an alien chest that means his insides weren't pulped by buckshot. He didn't LOOK very injured and didn't even bleed that much (he sure wasn't spitting blood out his nose like Captain Logface). Taking his head off with a rifle is a very different question, and I'm not sure how durable the significantly larger/stronger Na'vi are shown to be.

In short, it's pretty easy to rationalise the events of the two movies without resorting to 'omg predz have 1000000 hitpoints'. All kinds of animals can keep going after massive trauma for various physiological reasons; his career as a predator was basically over anyway so unless you figure predators are heavily modified transpredator guys (which isn't that unlikely) it's arguable he was just running on adrenaline.

[takemeout_totheblack]

The Predator has not displayed too incredible strength levels when it throws around Arnold or xenomorphs. I mean, geeze, the Na'vi can do that with their sticks easily.

Then again, the Predator was also able to keep on fighting despite losing an arm. That's just nuts! But yeah, the fact that the Pred got beat in hand to hand by Danny Glover and stuff isn't a good indicator of how badass it is.

After getting shot 4 times by a 12 gauge slug at point blank and having its arm cut off, and it was running around the city without it's mask on so it was operating in that capacity whilst slowly suffocating!
Also, Glover deaked him out with the whole 'uhg...I'm beaten and kneeling' and the Pred did the whole 'dramatic finishing move!' and then Glover's like 'psyche! Killer death frisbee go!' and the Pred's like 'hurk! laaaaame *dead*'
And Danny Glover's a big guy, especially at the time of this movie (1992) I wouldn't want to fight him, even if I had a bat a three good friends backing me up also with bats!
The point being made here is that the Na'vi are big and tall and really strong, but I don't think they're quite as physically tough and sturdy as a Predator. Sure they have carbon fiber bones, but I think that helps more with shock mitigation because they can do all that crazy jumpy stuff, but their tissue isn't as effective as a Pred's is at stopping serious injury.

[Shroom Man 777]

But in terms of strength, the Predator has not displayed feats that would be beyond the Na'vi's capabilities. Yes, the Predator bitchsmacks Arnolds and Danny Glovers and xenomorphs around, but to a Na'vi those Arnolds and Danny Glovers and xenomorphs would also be tiny. The only thing the Predator has over the Na'vi, in terms of physicality, is in their durability. While strengthwise they would be probably somewhat equal, with the Na'vi getting a definite advantage in size and reach, the Predator's only physical advantage would be his sheer toughness.

In a brawl, the Na'vi could easily just smack the Predator aside or stab him with a neurotoxin-coated knife. If the neurotoxin works, then that's a doubleplus.

Also, we've seen that the Na'vi themselves are fucking fast. We saw Neytiri attack a whole bunch of wild xeno-wolves very quickly, with her bow, at close quarters. While a Predator might withstand shotgun blasts, getting his dick stabbed with a two-meter sharp stick arrow would definitely not be healthy for his constitution. Or, if not an arrow and a melee weapon instead... maybe a spear?

Either way, a Pred in standard gear is going to collect a lot of Na'vi skulls. But shit, guys, come on. The Na'vi are hunters. When Dutch figured out they were being hunted, and when he and his team made that boy scout bullshit trap, the Predator DID get caught and DID get his ass tangled up in that bigass drift net.

Imagine if THIS happened to a Predator in Pandora. He gets caught in the net, just like the Predator in the first movie. Before he cuts his way out, the Na'vi then stick him full of arrows. Then what, eh? He gets fucked!

I mean, shit, we can even have a black Na'vi constantly shaving himself until he breaks his shaver while they wait for the Predator to fall into the trap.

[takemeout_totheblack]

I haven't seen Avatar, but predator durability is often overstated.

I'm just going by what I see. As for the Na'vi, they're said to have bones of naturally forming carbon fiber and are, in the words of Colonel Miles 'BAMF' Quaritch, are very hard to kill. I'm not entirely sure where he gets that from, they seem pretty susceptible to bullets at the end. (to others reading) And yes they were using huge mech guns to fend off the Dire-horse charge, but the majority of them were mask wearing marines and there are a few scenes of Na'vi dropping like sacks of very dead hammers from brief assault rifle fire.

Anyway, the two seem evenly matched, the Na'vi are roughly 4x as strong as a human and preds seem to be somewhere around that; Na'vi are quite light on their feet, again so are Preds (sort of); Na'vi have formidable fighting prowess, Preds do nothing but fight.
In a fist fight it's looking pretty even, although Preds have superior durability it isn't necessarily a guarantee that they'd win. Even with Meelee weapons it's looking like it could go either way as everything on Pandora is super strong it makes sense that the stuff they make their weapons out of is super strong too, so even though Preds have metal it won't matter much.

[takemeout_totheblack]

Also, I'm under the impression that the Pred would probably go for the most dangerous and challenging prey, which as those who've seen the move can attest are not necessarily the Na'vi. Imagine how good a Thanator Skull would look above the space-mantle place!

Shit, what would happen if a Xenomorph nest popped up on Pandora? Could get ugly...er.

[Enigma]

Would the scenario be any different if the Na'vi were up against an Alien or Alien Queen?

[Shroom Man 777]

Either way, a Pred in standard gear is going to collect a lot of Na'vi skulls. But shit, guys, come on. The Na'vi are hunters. When Dutch figured out they were being hunted, and when he and his team made that boy scout bullshit trap, the Predator DID get caught and DID get his ass tangled up in that bigass drift net.

Imagine if THIS happened to a Predator in Pandora. He gets caught in the net, just like the Predator in the first movie. Before he cuts his way out, the Na'vi then stick him full of arrows. Then what, eh? He gets fucked!

I mean, shit, we can even have a black Na'vi constantly shaving himself until he breaks his shaver while they wait for the Predator to fall into the trap.

Oh man. Think about it!

Tsu'tey: Bunch of slag jawed dreamwalkers. This shit will make you a bunch of sexual Thanatosauruses!

Jake Sully: Yeah, strap this onto your sore ass, Tsu'tey!

Tsu'tey: Jake Sully, you sonuvabitch! *armwrestles with Jake Sully* "What's the matter, the RDA got you pushing too many pencils? Huh? Had enough?"

Jake Sully: Make it easy on yourself, Tsu'tey. OK! OK!

Neytiri: *impales Quarritch with arrow* Stick around.

Jake Sully: *at Predator* "You're one *ugly* motherfucker!"

Jake Sully: "He came to get the body. He's killing us one at a time."
Tsu'tey: Like a hunter.
Jake Sully: [looks up in awareness] "He's using the trees."

Jake Sully: You're bleeding, man. You're hit.
Tsu'tey: I ain't got time to bleed.
Jake Sully: [Confused] Oh... Okay...
Jake Sully: [Throws a bunch of grenades into the Venture Star] You got time to duck?

Tsu'tey: I'm scared Jake.
Jake Sully: Bullshit. You ain't afraid of no man.
Tsu'tey: There's something out there waiting for us, and it ain't no man. We're all gonna die.

Jake Sully: If it bleeds, we can kill it.


Tsu'tey: *chasing the Predator* Long Tall Neytiri, she built sweet, she got everything, that Uncle Tsu'tey need. Aw baby, I'm gonna have me some fun, I'm gonna have me some fun, I'm gonna have me some fun.

Jake Sully: Tsu'tey. Tsu'tey! The other day, I was going down on Neytiri, I said to her, "Jeez you got a big pussy. Jeez you got a big pussy." She said, "Why did you say that twice?" I said, "I didn't."
[Tsu'tey stares blankly]
Jake Sully: See, cuz of the echo.

Jake Sully: [to Tsu'tey's corpse] Here we are again bro... Just you and me. Same kind of moon same kind of jungle. Real number 10 remember... Whole tribe, 32 men chopped into meat... We walk out just you and me, nobody else. Right on top huh? Not a scratch... Not a fuckin' scratch. You know who ever got you. They'll come back again. And when he does I'm gonna cut your name right into him... I'M GONNA CUT YOUR NAME RIGHT INTO HIM!

Jake Sully: RUN! GET TO THE HOME TREE!