OVEG - Sacred Ground Review
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OVEG - Sacred Ground Review
My favorite line: "[They] want to scan the area to try to figure out 'what happen?'"
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This is pre-WWII. You can sort of tell from the sketch style, from thee way it refers to Japan (Japan in the 1950s was still rebuilding from WWII), the spelling of Tokyo, lots of details. Nothing obvious... except that the upper right hand corner of the page reads "November 1931." --- Simon_Jester
Economic Left/Right: -7.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.74
This is pre-WWII. You can sort of tell from the sketch style, from thee way it refers to Japan (Japan in the 1950s was still rebuilding from WWII), the spelling of Tokyo, lots of details. Nothing obvious... except that the upper right hand corner of the page reads "November 1931." --- Simon_Jester
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Re: OVEG - Sacred Ground Review
Good review. Personal, my favorite line was "beware of God."
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Re: OVEG - Sacred Ground Review
This was a dull, plodding, and cryptic episode, not unlike TNG's "Masks" or the more disinteresting, forgettable parts of Bajore lore on DS9. But the sets depicting that alien temple were impressive though.
'Alright guard, begin the unnecessarily slow moving dipping mechanism...' - Dr. Evil
'Secondly, I don't see why "income inequality" is a bad thing. Poverty is not an injustice. There is no such thing as causes for poverty, only causes for wealth. Poverty is not a wrong, but taking money from those who have it to equalize incomes is basically theft, which is wrong.' - Typical Randroid
'I think it's gone a little bit wrong.' - The Doctor
'Secondly, I don't see why "income inequality" is a bad thing. Poverty is not an injustice. There is no such thing as causes for poverty, only causes for wealth. Poverty is not a wrong, but taking money from those who have it to equalize incomes is basically theft, which is wrong.' - Typical Randroid
'I think it's gone a little bit wrong.' - The Doctor
Re: OVEG - Sacred Ground Review
I don't know why 'Masks' gets a bad rep. It's pretty much a classic exploration/discovery episode. No zombie borg to shoot at, no klingons prattling on about honour and waving their dicks around, just the Enterprise coming across a weird alien artifact (inside of a comet to boot), which does freaky shit to the ship; whacky hijinks ensue, including Data suffering from the android equivalent of multiple personalities disorder (which really let Brent Spiner shine as an actor).
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Re: OVEG - Sacred Ground Review
Thanks for doing this review, Chuck. This is one of the Voyager episodes that really twerped me off very early on. I *think* (Emperor, less than 20 years ago are a blur to me) I actually stopped watching Voyager for a while after this, at least until the Borg showed up in Scorpion and I know I finally stopped in college & never went back until the series finale.
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Re: OVEG - Sacred Ground Review
"Everything you've just been through is meaningless".
For once, a Vgr episode that tells the truth about itself.
For once, a Vgr episode that tells the truth about itself.
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People pray so that God won't crush them like bugs.
—Dr. Gregory House
Oil an emergency?! It's about time, Brigadier, that the leaders of this planet of yours realised that to remain dependent upon a mineral slime simply doesn't make sense.
—The Doctor "Terror Of The Zygons" (1975)
—Abraham Lincoln
People pray so that God won't crush them like bugs.
—Dr. Gregory House
Oil an emergency?! It's about time, Brigadier, that the leaders of this planet of yours realised that to remain dependent upon a mineral slime simply doesn't make sense.
—The Doctor "Terror Of The Zygons" (1975)
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Re: OVEG - Sacred Ground Review
I loved Masks, it was probably one of my most-watched TNG episodes way back in the day. The entire "ship transforms into WEIRD temples/jungles/swamps" bit could be easily explained away with very advanced replicator and/or holographic technology, and as Stofsk said, it had the genuine feeling of exploration as its theme.
As for this episode...it is the polar opposite of Masks. I did not fully comprehend the whole "oh stop trying to think RATIONALLY" piece at the time it was aired - I was far, far too young then. Now that I'm older, however, it does feel really insulting.
As for this episode...it is the polar opposite of Masks. I did not fully comprehend the whole "oh stop trying to think RATIONALLY" piece at the time it was aired - I was far, far too young then. Now that I'm older, however, it does feel really insulting.
"I could while away the hours, conferrin' with the flowers, consultin' with the rain.
And my head I'd be scratchin', while my thoughts were busy hatchin', if I only had a brain!
I would not be just a nothin', my head all full of stuffin', my heart all full of pain.
I would dance and be merry, life would be would be a ding-a-derry, if I only had a brain!"
And my head I'd be scratchin', while my thoughts were busy hatchin', if I only had a brain!
I would not be just a nothin', my head all full of stuffin', my heart all full of pain.
I would dance and be merry, life would be would be a ding-a-derry, if I only had a brain!"
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Re: OVEG - Sacred Ground Review
Another flawed TNG episode that came out in the same season as "Masks" that I'm fond of despite the cheesiness is "Emergence", where a strange alien parasite is developing in a cargo hold and messing about with the ship with eratic consequences (and the holodeck gets it again). I can only vaguely remember "Masks", the episode not sticking my mind for many years afterwards like "I, Borg" or "Unification" does not bode well, though Brent Spiner is often not the weak link in TNG anyway.
'Alright guard, begin the unnecessarily slow moving dipping mechanism...' - Dr. Evil
'Secondly, I don't see why "income inequality" is a bad thing. Poverty is not an injustice. There is no such thing as causes for poverty, only causes for wealth. Poverty is not a wrong, but taking money from those who have it to equalize incomes is basically theft, which is wrong.' - Typical Randroid
'I think it's gone a little bit wrong.' - The Doctor
'Secondly, I don't see why "income inequality" is a bad thing. Poverty is not an injustice. There is no such thing as causes for poverty, only causes for wealth. Poverty is not a wrong, but taking money from those who have it to equalize incomes is basically theft, which is wrong.' - Typical Randroid
'I think it's gone a little bit wrong.' - The Doctor