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Re: No more swearing in California
Awesome. California is getting closer to the portrayal in The Demolition Man every day.
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Which means we get Arnold as a President and Wesley Snipes showing up to roundhouse kick police officersStarglider wrote:Awesome. California is getting closer to the portrayal in The Demolition Man every day.
Hopefully this just stays as something that shows up on the odd calender, rather than something anyone has to waste their time over.
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More useless feel good crap from the government that doesn't do anything but makes people feel better. Reminds me of the various stupid laws around the country just add this one to the list.
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Yeah, but you had the excuse that you'd been kept isolated and ignorant. This kid doesn't have that excuse and somehow thinks the most important thing that he could put his time into is ineffectually moralizing about cussing while having a complete lack of understanding about the difference between causation and correlation. Hell, I would think this week would have the opposite effect with people being contrary.Liberty Ferall wrote:The kid sounds like the same kind of little puritanical shit I was when I was sixteen. Surprised he hasn't asked his parents to homeschool him to keep him away from all the bad words!
See, I was homeschooled, and I literally didn't hear the word "fuck" until I got to college. Literally. Didn't even know about it. I looked it up in the dictionary freshman year.
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I agree, but to his credit, he's really young and is probably brainwashed by religious parents.Mayabird wrote:Yeah, but you had the excuse that you'd been kept isolated and ignorant. This kid doesn't have that excuse and somehow thinks the most important thing that he could put his time into is ineffectually moralizing about cussing while having a complete lack of understanding about the difference between causation and correlation. Hell, I would think this week would have the opposite effect with people being contrary.Liberty Ferall wrote:The kid sounds like the same kind of little puritanical shit I was when I was sixteen. Surprised he hasn't asked his parents to homeschool him to keep him away from all the bad words!
See, I was homeschooled, and I literally didn't hear the word "fuck" until I got to college. Literally. Didn't even know about it. I looked it up in the dictionary freshman year.
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Corrected for accuracy.hunter5 wrote:More useless moralistic crap from fundie shithead conservative legislators that doesn't do anything but makes fundie churchgoing sheeple feel better. Reminds me of the various stupid laws around the country just add this one to the list.
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I used to go pretty light on the cussing until I hardened the fuck up in tenth grade. Now I frequently use them. I find the notion that there is something innately wrong or rude about specific words to be moronic.
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Is that evidence they did not make it up?The Spartan wrote:If you look close it's the Associated Press that came up with the story. Fox may be the one carrying the story in this case, but you can see a little AP just under the article's headline.
I'll believe it when I see California local papers carrying the news. A cursory search on the websites of the LA Times and the Sacramento Bee revealed nothing, but that proves, well, nothing.
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Does the Associated Press have a reputation for making shit up? No? Okay then.
Edit: Matter of fact, here's the same story on MSNBC.com and, what do you know, it's from the Associated Press. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35585018/ns/us_news-life/
Edit: Matter of fact, here's the same story on MSNBC.com and, what do you know, it's from the Associated Press. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35585018/ns/us_news-life/
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Is the fucking text of the bill itself from the stupid ass legislative assembly good enough for you asshole?Simon_Jester wrote:Is that evidence they did not make it up?The Spartan wrote:If you look close it's the Associated Press that came up with the story. Fox may be the one carrying the story in this case, but you can see a little AP just under the article's headline.
I'll believe it when I see California local papers carrying the news. A cursory search on the websites of the LA Times and the Sacramento Bee revealed nothing, but that proves, well, nothing.
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I know Fox doesn't have the best reputation around here but is it really reasonable to believe Fox faked an AP story about swearing? Use your head, Simon.
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They'll probably end up like this dumbass who tried to heckle George Carlin.Dalton wrote:I'd love to see people try to propose this in New York (the Fuck You State). Comedy gold.
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My admissions director did something similar for me. I ended up rooming with probably the only other gay guy in my freshmen class, even though I hadn't told her I was gay. It didn't work out though, boy was he annoying. In the end, he switched rooms and I ended up with a very nice straightish Greek guy with long black hair.Liberty Ferall wrote: Unbeknownst to me, our hall director had put all the girls who mentioned "church" "Bible reading" "youth group" etc. on forms they sent in about their interests on the same floor, so actually the dorm floor I was on was fairly Christian.
Californians need to pass another one of their government crippling voter propositions stripping the legislature of all non-binding resolution powers to stop shit like this.
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I don't know.Phantasee wrote:I know Fox doesn't have the best reputation around here but is it really reasonable to believe Fox faked an AP story about swearing? Use your head, Simon.
I could actually believe some random guy on Fox faking an AP story and the network letting them... or, more accurately, not bothering to check. Or maybe quietly firing the guy and not admitting they lied. In hindsight, they probably wouldn't do it over this, but then you'd think they wouldn't risk getting called out on petty bullshit like misreporting the party affiliation of Congressmen involved in scandals, or claiming that a Teabagger protest in Washington had two million attendees.
I couldn't believe the AP themselves faking the story, of course.
So, OK, it's real, not just echo-chamber crap. After some of the blatant fakery they've been party to in the past few years, I think I have a right to be skeptical of something that comes out of Fox News and is politically convenient for them.
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In my opinion, what matters is not the words you use, but the context in which you use them. If, for example, a guy compliments his girlfriend by saying she is "fucking beautiful", where's the harm in that? On the other hand, you can still be offensive without using any swear words. Suppose someone were to say, "Let us exterminate African-Americans." That uses perfectly PC language, yet it's still an evil thing to say.
The only words I have second thoughts about using are slurs like "nigger", "gook", and "honky", and even in their case, context matters. If I were to read a book in which an unsympathetic character said "nigger", I wouldn't be bothered by it at all, for that wasn't the author's voice, but rather one of his characters'.
This legislation is apparently intended to create a more civil climate, but it is only addressing a symptom rather than the problem.
The only words I have second thoughts about using are slurs like "nigger", "gook", and "honky", and even in their case, context matters. If I were to read a book in which an unsympathetic character said "nigger", I wouldn't be bothered by it at all, for that wasn't the author's voice, but rather one of his characters'.
This legislation is apparently intended to create a more civil climate, but it is only addressing a symptom rather than the problem.
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Sure, but it won't even do that. The kid in the story sees a connection between profanity and "drug use and bullying" which seems highly dubious. I'll swear until the paint on the walls curl (usually when working on a stubborn machine or some such, at home) but I don't act like that in public, or around other people in general. It's just a way to let off steam. But I also never use slurs, even in private, because I don't think that way. Using profanity and using racial slurs are two totally different things. People who use slurs have bigger issues that need to be addressed and this will not help. It is a complete a total waste of time.Vastatosaurus Rex wrote:In my opinion, what matters is not the words you use, but the context in which you use them. If, for example, a guy compliments his girlfriend by saying she is "fucking beautiful", where's the harm in that? On the other hand, you can still be offensive without using any swear words. Suppose someone were to say, "Let us exterminate African-Americans." That uses perfectly PC language, yet it's still an evil thing to say.
The only words I have second thoughts about using are slurs like "nigger", "gook", and "honky", and even in their case, context matters. If I were to read a book in which an unsympathetic character said "nigger", I wouldn't be bothered by it at all, for that wasn't the author's voice, but rather one of his characters'.
This legislation is apparently intended to create a more civil climate, but it is only addressing a symptom rather than the problem.