Why do we allow Israel to getting away with spying on us?

[ZGundam]

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICL ... ndals.html

This is a little old but I could not find a newer article. I just find it amazing that we let Israel get away with this over and over again where other countries that do this are given no slack.

What would be the breaking point that the US would say 'ENOUGH!', or would they ever?

I doubt it, but would like your opinions.

[Kamakazie Sith]

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICL ... ndals.html

This is a little old but I could not find a newer article. I just find it amazing that we let Israel get away with this over and over again where other countries that do this are given no slack.

What would be the breaking point that the US would say 'ENOUGH!', or would they ever?

I doubt it, but would like your opinions.

If you can't find it anywhere else then chances are it is bullshit. Also, consider your source. What other articles do you find on that website? If I remember correctly this website is known for publishing conspiracy theories such as "9/11 was an inside job"

That's not to say that Israel isn't spying on us. I think it was said somewhere that all countries spy on each other.

[Admiral Valdemar]

Keep your enemies close, but your friends closer. It's just good practise to keep tabs on what your allies are doing, and is in no way controversial. Anyone blindly accepting that someone they know can't double-cross them ever has not grasped the human condition very well.

[ZGundam]

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICL ... ndals.html

This is a little old but I could not find a newer article. I just find it amazing that we let Israel get away with this over and over again where other countries that do this are given no slack.

What would be the breaking point that the US would say 'ENOUGH!', or would they ever?

I doubt it, but would like your opinions.

If you can't find it anywhere else then chances are it is bullshit. Also, consider your source. What other articles do you find on that website? If I remember correctly this website is known for publishing conspiracy theories such as "9/11 was an inside job"

That's not to say that Israel isn't spying on us. I think it was said somewhere that all countries spy on each other.

What I mean is the question asked is never asked in other publications, but all other news outlets are always reporting about catching spies, but never asking about why we let it keep happening.

Also the people always seem to re-elct the same people to office and they cause the same trouble over and over. Kind of like a merrry-go-round. *shrugs*

[DPDarkPrimus]

Why doesn't the government publicize the fact that friendly countries are spying on us?

Hmm, gee, I sure can't think of any legitimate reasons why this isn't talked about! Nope!

[Simon_Jester]

Why we let what keep happening?

Israeli spies wanting to get a peek at our latest military hardware or whatever is annoying, and we punish the spies and try to secure the documents. But when you get down to it, there's no way to stop any country from spying on us short of banning all foreigners from ever contacting our citizens. Which would be a ridiculous solution.

So before you ask "why do we allow country X to spy on us?" you should ask "does it matter if country X manages to spy on us?" We don't want to just give away all our secrets to anyone who asks, but the fact that some country sneaks a few more of our secrets than we wanted to tell them isn't an act of war or anything.

Since we already have a very large amount of classified information that we do actively work to keep secret, and since we already punish people who get caught spying... what more should we do? Why does it matter enough to justify getting into a wrestling match with other countries? Is there some actual threat here we should worry about?

[Ace Pace]

And you assume the U.S. doesn't actively spy on Israel? You must be naive.

As Simon_jester points out, Countries spy on each other. Allies spy on each other. Why? To make sure promises are kept, for industrial and national secrets, for political information to blackmail others. It's too good to pass up.

Where does this become a problem? As in Israel/U.S. relations, which are already absurd and farcial, when Israel is caught spying in high ranking places (such as Pollard) it becomes a diplomatic incident. These incidents are also (in many countries) quieted up, unless one of the countries wishes to make a political point, as the U.S. did with Pollard.

[bobalot]

And you assume the U.S. doesn't actively spy on Israel? You must be naive.

As Simon_jester points out, Countries spy on each other. Allies spy on each other. Why? To make sure promises are kept, for industrial and national secrets, for political information to blackmail others. It's too good to pass up.

Where does this become a problem? As in Israel/U.S. relations, which are already absurd and farcial, when Israel is caught spying in high ranking places (such as Pollard) it becomes a diplomatic incident. These incidents are also (in many countries) quieted up, unless one of the countries wishes to make a political point, as the U.S. did with Pollard.

The Israel/America relationship is a bit unique. Americans expect people like the Chinese to spy on them. Americans get shitty when a country America supports to the tune of billions of dollars per year spies on them.

This is on top of the all the extra shit they cop in the middle east because of their unquestioning support of Israel.

[Simon_Jester]

Realistically, we should expect some spying from them. I don't care about that.

We should also expect to get our money's worth for acting as Israel's big heavily armed brother in the region, since no other nation on Earth seems to be willing to do the job. I do care about that, and find it kind of annoying when Israeli governments proceed to take our money and then do whatever the hell they want even when it not only screws us over... it screws them over.

But spying? As long as they aren't sneaking bombs into government labs or stealing nuclear launch codes or anything really critical like that, who cares?