B5tech plagiarized.....

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2003-02-16 05:06pm

A no-talent unimaginative totally devoid of anything resembling originality and creativity asshole?

Isil`Zha · Post by **Isil`Zha** » 2003-02-16 05:09pm

Darth Wong wrote:What the fuck kind of asshole does something like this?

A very fucking stupid one? Seriously, how the fuck do they even think they'll get away with it when they didn't even try and take B5tech.com references out of the source code? Oops.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-02-16 05:54pm

Stupid fucks. Unfortunately legal action is likely more trouble then any result is worth. Getting the ISP to take it down should be easy enough though.

BrandonBray · Post by **BrandonBray** » 2003-02-17 12:09am

By Isoeph,
Notice the site is down now....it looks like either his ISP or he himself has taken action www.dracoalliance.com
seems to be down now Although its just his Index page thats missing now....

Well, I checked the website and while the main page:

http://www.dracoalliance.com/

-- no longer has a link to the fake B5TECH page, the fake is STILL on-line at:

http://www.dracoalliance.com/B5%20homepage.htm

So they're now trying to cover their tracks, but nothing has really changed... save for this buffoon now has added a disclaimer stating that:

The information, images and layout on this site are sourced from various websites, books, programmes, magazines and other media. All text is copyrighted to their original authors, all images is copyrighted to their original artists and no infringements are intended by there use. ([link=www.dracoalliance.com/]www.dracoalliance.com/"[/link])

He goes on to state the following:

It must be remembered however the overall copyrights to Babylon 5 belong to the creator of the show, Joe Michael Straczynski and also that the internet is in part public domain. (dracoalliance.com)

So what his fool is now saying, is that anything written about a TV show is "public domain." Well, if this is the case, wouldn't all the books and novels be "public domain"? After all, they weren't written by JMS?

And THEN he goes onto say:

If any webmasters should find info on this site that has been sourced from their site, please do not take offence, it is meant as a compliment, your work is excellent and it could not be bettered, so it was utilised and made available to others. (dracoalliance.com)

So this is basically him trying to justify his theft of images, essays, and research done by OTHERS and claiming it for himself. Of course, he tries to cover-up that fact by saying:

Plagiarism is the the act of stealing and passing off the ideas, words, or other intellectual property produced by another as one's own. For example, using someone else's words in a research paper without citing the source, is an act of plagiarism. All the works on this site are credited to the original authors and artists. (dracoalliance.com)

What Mr. DracoAlliance fails to note, is that he did not cite where the information came from, and indeed claimed MY work as his property, and his sole copyright. He completely fails to recognize that, while in research papers and biographical works it IS okay to quote someone else's work, you cannot simply re-print someone else's work in it's entirety and then pass it off as your own! Which is what this person has done.

As you can all guess, I am SO calling my lawyer![/url][/quote]

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-02-17 12:41am

BrandonBray wrote:
The information, images and layout on this site are sourced from various websites, books, programmes, magazines and other media. All text is copyrighted to their original authors, all images is copyrighted to their original artists and no infringements are intended by there use. ([link=www.dracoalliance.com/]www.dracoalliance.com/"[/link])

Once you actually get into the website there's a warning below the sidebar:

"Text content of Draco Alliance is from various sources and may not be reproduced without written consent of original authors."

Patrick Degan · Post by **Patrick Degan** » 2003-02-17 12:46am

Brandon, did you take screen-grabs of the Draco pages? I ask because it would be evidence-absolute of their intent at plagerism, particularly with the evidence of the hastily altered disclaimers which points to the effort to cover their asses after the fact.

BrandonBray · Post by **BrandonBray** » 2003-02-17 01:01am

No, but a friend took some caps. I'll check with him. Simple fact of the matter is, he was not to reproduce ANY content from my website without written consent sent via U.S. Postal, as I stated at my own website.

It seem obvious to me that the people running DracoAlliance will not be removing any of material they have stolen.

As a matter of fact, they seem to be ignoring any and all attempts to contact them.

This being the case, I would like to ask all of you to help me go directly to DracoAlliance's domain host and demand that they take some action to rectify this blatant act of plagiarism.

You can contact DracoAlliance's domain host at:

domainadmin@getdotted.com

BrandonBray · Post by **BrandonBray** » 2003-02-17 01:23am

Well, it turns out that he didn't just rip me off, but he ripped off Steve Grimm, the owner of the "Lurkers Guide to Babylon 5", the very FIRST website dedicated to Babylon 5!

DracoAlliance's Character Bio. section:

http://www.dracoalliance.com/tv%20guide.htm

-- is nothing more than a copy of Steve Grimm's Lurker's Guide Bios at:

http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/universe/cast-1.html

Proof that this guy will steal from ANYONE!

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-02-17 01:27am

Fuck him and the horse he rode in on. I can't believe the gall of this prick.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2003-02-17 01:31am

What a loser. I hope that you sue this jackass for everything he's worth. He's so obviously deliberately stealing your intellectual property that I can see no reason not to take him to the cleaners.

BrandonBray · Post by **BrandonBray** » 2003-02-17 01:35am

If I sue him, I lose money too, thogh.

I'd rather put an end to this without spending money.

This is why I want everyone's help in e-mailing his domain host at:

domainadmin@getdotted.com

-- so we can get them to do something about this.

Isil`Zha · Post by **Isil`Zha** » 2003-02-17 01:38am

I say we infrom the luker's guide as well, getting yet more people to rally to shut this baffoon down.

Patrick Degan · Post by **Patrick Degan** » 2003-02-17 01:39am

This guy is not only a plagarist, but evidently also an idiot. He actually imagined that he could pull this shit and nobody would notice?! On the fucking internet?!?!

I trust you've already contacted the sysop of the Lurkers' Guide site.

BrandonBray · Post by **BrandonBray** » 2003-02-17 01:39am

I e-mailed the Lurkers guide, and I e-mailed B5tv.com, as it looks like some of their stuff was stolen as well.

I still think that, for now, the best thing we can do is e-mail his domain host and hope they will shut him down.

BrandonBray · Post by **BrandonBray** » 2003-02-17 01:42am

I just got back from his page and it looks like this moron is now turning his page into a link-to archive, linking to other people's stuff, but keeping all MY stuff as his own.

Not good enought sonny Jim, not good enough by far!

This guy has GOT to be shut down!

Macross · Post by **Macross** » 2003-02-17 01:44am

BrandonBray wrote:So what his fool is now saying, is that anything written about a TV show is "public domain." Well, if this is the case, wouldn't all the books and novels be "public domain"? After all, they weren't written by JMS?

Speaking of JMS, have you thought of informing him of this crime. I know he regularly posts on the newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated, but you probably already knew that. Having the support of "The Maker," may go along way to convince those guys to cease and desist.

BrandonBray · Post by **BrandonBray** » 2003-02-17 01:44am

I see he ALSO ripped off http://www.isnnews.net/ for some of his character bios.

What is WITH this guy!?!?!

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2003-02-17 01:45am

BrandonBray wrote:I just got back from his page and it looks like this moron is now turning his page into a link-to archive, linking to other people's stuff, but keeping all MY stuff as his own.

Not good enought sonny Jim, not good enough by far!

This guy has GOT to be shut down!

I agree completely. I would still recommend legal action against this perpetrator. He's clearly a jerk, and his candid demeanor about his plagiarism is only more reason to send him a lesson. Good luck, Mr. Bray. Get this guy off the net.

Isil`Zha · Post by **Isil`Zha** » 2003-02-17 01:56am

If you need to, find out the number for, and *call* his ISP, making sure they know what's going on. Which should be more prompt than any e-mail.

SpacedTeddyBear · Post by **SpacedTeddyBear** » 2003-02-17 02:10am

Spreading the word to what other b5 forums I can find. This asshole is going down.

BrandonBray · Post by **BrandonBray** » 2003-02-17 06:37am

A friend of mine, ZED, sent me the following message:

I have an AOL account that I've used to email these people. I can track the status and whats done to the email with it. They aren't even bothering to ready material related to the current situation, they're straight deleteing it.

This gives you all an idea of how much these people regard their fellow B5 fans, to say nothing of other website owners.

Thus far, by my count, they've ripped off me, the Lurkers Guide, ISNnews.net, and B5LR.com.

More news!

It seems the DracoAlliance people have decided to continue their intellectual RAPE of my website and they justify it by making it so only their members can see just how much they HAVE raped this site!

Our apologies but site is now unfortunately for rpg club members only. (dracoalliance.com)

Do they actually think that THIS piss poor policy change fixes this!?!

Oh, and NOW the DracoThieves state at their copy of my site:

Text content of Draco Alliance is from various sources and may not be reproduced without written consent of original authors. Pictures and images are © of their original artists and may not be reproduced without written consent of said artists. (www.dracoalliance.com/B5%20homepage.htm )

So, let me get this strait... they want OTHER people who visit the DracoThieves website to honor the copyright of all the work they stole, and for OTHER people to obtain the written permission that the DracoThieves FAILED to get!?!?!?!

Hypocrisy, thy name is f-ing retards from the "DracoAlliance of Thieves and Rapists".

Until the issue with the DracoAlliance is concluded, there will be NO more site updates at B5TECH.

No new images will be posted, no new essays will be made, no new movies or original CGI artwork will be posted - nothing.

Due to the fact that the DracoAlliance refuses to do the right thing, I cannot make any changes to my own website, for legal reasons, in order to preserve existing evidence that the owners of the DracoAlliance are indeed plagiarizing the whole content of B5TECH.

If you would like to help bring this issue to a close, you can do so by e-mailing the owners of the DracoAlliance at dracoalliance@aol.com or, better yet, contacting their domain host at domainadmin@getdotted.com.

For those of you who enjoy B5TECH, thank-you for understanding.

Brandon Bray,
Creator of the REAL B5TECH website.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-02-17 10:46am

I have a better idea.

Get it slashdotted.

TrailerParkJawa · Post by **TrailerParkJawa** » 2003-02-17 12:37pm

phongn wrote:I have a better idea.

Get it slashdotted.

What does that mean?

BrandonBray · Post by **BrandonBray** » 2003-02-17 01:38pm

Yeah, what he said.

What is slashdotted?

Connor MacLeod · Post by **Connor MacLeod** » 2003-02-17 03:11pm

Check this out:

PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING

LEGAL DISCLAIMER

Draco Alliance recognise Warner Brothers, Babylonian Productions and their licensees as having sole right to create profit from the various Babylon 5 copyrights and we do not, intend to infringe upon or earn profit from these copyrights. .

Babylon 5, Babylon 5: Crusade and Babylon 5: The Legend of the Rangers are registered trademarks of Warner Brothers and Babylonian Productions. Warner Brothers and Babylonian Productions do not sanction these pages or the information which is contained within them. The information, images and layout on this site are sourced from various websites, books, programmes, magazines and other media. All text is copyrighted to their original authors, all images is copyrighted to their original artists and no infringements are intended by there use. It must be remembered however the overall copyrights to Babylon 5 belong to the creator of the show, Joe Michael Straczynski and also that the internet is in part public domain. All info on this site has been collated for the benefit of club members and Babylon 5 fans, some have been collated from websites that may/may not disappear from the world wide web, as so many good sites have in the past, and thus valuable info is lost. All work credits are given on the Links and Credit pages at the end of this html documentation. Also, a reminder that all Babylon 5 information on all websites, in all publications and other media is sourced originally, from the mind and pen of Joe Michael Straczynski, only he has all rights (copyrights and otherwise) over the B5 universe.

Our apologies, but this site is now unfortunately for rpg club members only and that all pending membership applications have been cancelled, this is due to complaints received from non members. These complaints have been dealt with and all future mail from unknown sources have been blocked.

Members please be aware, that all rpg's, current and pending will continue under the Code 7R rule.

Also current members should note that all E-mail should now be sent to the old E-mail address.