Invasion schedule mix-up. Earth's really bad day.
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Invasion schedule mix-up. Earth's really bad day.
Its July 2nd, 1996, and a giant mothership is orbiting the earth and deploying its city destroying UFOs.(Independence Day)
At the same time, hundreds of silver saucers from the planet Mars come to Earth to cause untold destruction and destroy all they can and maybe conquer Earth, when they're not being assholes.(Mars Attacks)
And finally, several noiseless lighting strikes hit the Earth, awakening the tripods left in the Earth for a postponed alien invasion that is now commencing.(2005 War of the Worlds)
So, three sets of alien invaders, all at one time. What happens?
At the same time, hundreds of silver saucers from the planet Mars come to Earth to cause untold destruction and destroy all they can and maybe conquer Earth, when they're not being assholes.(Mars Attacks)
And finally, several noiseless lighting strikes hit the Earth, awakening the tripods left in the Earth for a postponed alien invasion that is now commencing.(2005 War of the Worlds)
So, three sets of alien invaders, all at one time. What happens?
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Which Martians book or movie ?
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Based on the lightning strikes, pretty obviously movieSarevok wrote:Which Martians book or movie ?
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I would say that the aliens would end up fighting the other alien groups because they would be the only real competition for the resourses of the earth. The "savage natives" could be mopped up as needed after the competitors have been driven off.
Ironically this would probably give us "savage natives" the best chance for success in surviving. First off the aliens would be focusing on each other not us. Secondly we would be able to pick up the trashed remains after an alien battle in doing so we would be able to collect information, weapons, and materiel for study and potential use. (assuming the victors don't do a through cleaning of the battlefield) Third the infighting between alien groups will reduce the number of enemy aliens we need to fight and defeat at the end.
Ironically this would probably give us "savage natives" the best chance for success in surviving. First off the aliens would be focusing on each other not us. Secondly we would be able to pick up the trashed remains after an alien battle in doing so we would be able to collect information, weapons, and materiel for study and potential use. (assuming the victors don't do a through cleaning of the battlefield) Third the infighting between alien groups will reduce the number of enemy aliens we need to fight and defeat at the end.
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Do the WotW aliens really have anything by way of air superiority? All I'm familiar with is the trailers and the like where there's just a lot of tripods, so they're definitely eating it pretty quickly if that's the case, especially since our weapons were able to hurt them where there wasn't much we could do to stop the ID4 and MA saucers.
As for who takes it between the remaining two, hmph, not really much anyone can do unless there's some way of quantifying their respective weapons and the limits of their defenses. I bet those ID4 aliens pack a dope nuke bong, though.
As for who takes it between the remaining two, hmph, not really much anyone can do unless there's some way of quantifying their respective weapons and the limits of their defenses. I bet those ID4 aliens pack a dope nuke bong, though.
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Nah, the tripods' shields were completely immune to anything the military threw at them. Even toward the end when one of the tripods has its shields down due to the crew being sick, it's ambiguous as to whether anything the military hit it with actually hurt the thing.TithonusSyndrome wrote:Do the WotW aliens really have anything by way of air superiority? All I'm familiar with is the trailers and the like where there's just a lot of tripods, so they're definitely eating it pretty quickly if that's the case, especially since our weapons were able to hurt them where there wasn't much we could do to stop the ID4 and MA saucers.
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The Mars Attacks Martians display weaponry with capabilities far above any of those other guys. The ID4 City Killers need to be directly over their targets to destroy them, and their weapons effect are within nuke-range... and we know that the Mars Attacks aliens can just use their toys to suck nuclear explosions in and turn them into inhalable thinggies for the King of Mars to suck on. The Mars Attack Martians can just use their friggin shrink-rays to shrink the ID4 and WotW aliens, if needed be. Seriously, they're ridiculous!
Once the Mars Attacks Martians stomp on the ID4 aliens, and after the WotW Martians of the common cold, we use that stupid-ass old-people geriatric hillbilly music to destroy the Mars Attacks Martians as a deus ex machina to foil the alien invasion - because that stupid music was like a total pisstake on all the deus ex machina computer virus whatevers that foil alien invasions. Then Vhing Rhames can punch the King of Mars' face off. The end.
God, Mars Attacks. What an awesome movie.
Once the Mars Attacks Martians stomp on the ID4 aliens, and after the WotW Martians of the common cold, we use that stupid-ass old-people geriatric hillbilly music to destroy the Mars Attacks Martians as a deus ex machina to foil the alien invasion - because that stupid music was like a total pisstake on all the deus ex machina computer virus whatevers that foil alien invasions. Then Vhing Rhames can punch the King of Mars' face off. The end.
God, Mars Attacks. What an awesome movie.
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Would the shrink ray be able to affect a target through the shields or would it be deflected like any other weapon we have seen used on them?Shroom Man 777 wrote:The Mars Attacks Martians display weaponry with capabilities far above any of those other guys. The ID4 City Killers need to be directly over their targets to destroy them, and their weapons effect are within nuke-range... and we know that the Mars Attacks aliens can just use their toys to suck nuclear explosions in and turn them into inhalable thinggies for the King of Mars to suck on. The Mars Attack Martians can just use their friggin shrink-rays to shrink the ID4 and WotW aliens, if needed be. Seriously, they're ridiculous!
ID4 might be the weakest of the bunch individually but there is something to be said for having a swarm of numbers on their side. Mars Attacks aliens(I think I'm going to call them the Shroomaliens from now on that ok with you Shroom?) have the most amusing toys to be sure but they also are available in some quantity. War of the Worlds arguably have the toughest units on the field but I don't think they have the numbers of either group IIRC.
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Eh? The ID4 city destroyers are by far tougher than the WotW Tripods. The ID4 city destroyers withstood nukes. The Mars Attack aliens also withstood nukes, but through a fucking stupid ridiculous gizmo.
Did we see any Mars Attack alien vessels get defeated by conventional weaponry? Aside from the giant robot that tripped and fell on its ass.
Also, yes. You can call them Shroomaliens. Those Mars Attacks aliens are, like, complete dicks. Assholes. Their entire species. Man. Goddamn Ack-Acks!
Did we see any Mars Attack alien vessels get defeated by conventional weaponry? Aside from the giant robot that tripped and fell on its ass.
Also, yes. You can call them Shroomaliens. Those Mars Attacks aliens are, like, complete dicks. Assholes. Their entire species. Man. Goddamn Ack-Acks!
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Didn't the tripods get nuked too or am I thinking of another iteration of War of the Worlds? As far as I can remember the tripods could take any weapon that was thrown at them.
I don't think the Shroomaliens had shields did they? The worst I can remember happening to the saucers was sparks flying off them from conventional weaponry. I'm not sure the Shroomaliens nuke-sucker can deal with the energy weapons of the other groups. That said they might have some other weird gizmo up there arse to defend themselves with.
When I said individual unit earlier I was thinking of the fighters not the city-killer/carriers of ID4. The city-killers might be able to take a beating from one unit of the other groups but I don't think it would take continuous massed fire from the other groups that well. That said anyone who tried would find themselves swamped with fighters picking away at them like a cloud of mosquitoes.
I don't think the Shroomaliens had shields did they? The worst I can remember happening to the saucers was sparks flying off them from conventional weaponry. I'm not sure the Shroomaliens nuke-sucker can deal with the energy weapons of the other groups. That said they might have some other weird gizmo up there arse to defend themselves with.
When I said individual unit earlier I was thinking of the fighters not the city-killer/carriers of ID4. The city-killers might be able to take a beating from one unit of the other groups but I don't think it would take continuous massed fire from the other groups that well. That said anyone who tried would find themselves swamped with fighters picking away at them like a cloud of mosquitoes.
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For what it's worth, the MA Martians did seem alarmed by the incoming nuke before they used the weird sucky thing.
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Yeah, that's called drama "Oh, no, we are DOOOMED!!!...Nah, just kidding".Srelex wrote:For what it's worth, the MA Martians did seem alarmed by the incoming nuke before they used the weird sucky thing.
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Well the Tripods will be dead in a week or so won't they? So that leaves the Mars and ID4 aliens. There is no reason to think that we (Jeff Goldblum) wouldn't come up with the same 'virus' to bring down the ID4s and the same music weapon to clean up the Marsers.
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Maybe combined into one? A sort of rickroll virus with the Martian killer music.
But wait, aren't the aliens from WotW also Martians? What is this, a planet-conquering martian equivalent of the US/USSR space race?
But wait, aren't the aliens from WotW also Martians? What is this, a planet-conquering martian equivalent of the US/USSR space race?
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In the case of the Spielberg Martians, it's not revealed where they're from. I think a commentary hinted at them being interdimensional or some crap like that.LordOskuro wrote:Maybe combined into one? A sort of rickroll virus with the Martian killer music.
But wait, aren't the aliens from WotW also Martians? What is this, a planet-conquering martian equivalent of the US/USSR space race?
"No, no, no, no! Light speed's too slow! Yes, we're gonna have to go right to... Ludicrous speed!"
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Actually, the opening visuals from the Spielberg movie have (if memory serves) a prominent red circle in them, wich then turns out to be a street light or somesuch, but then again, it's never explicitely stated. It'd be fun, though, for Mars to have not one but two sentient species bent on conquering Earth.
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Actually, that wouldn't just be fun, that'd be a deviously excellent background for a story intended to be a take on how Cold War powers turned every people in their grasp into some form of proxy for them and their interests, and you could have Earth being courted by both sides in much the same way that so many other small island nations were in that time.
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Sounds like the makings of a decent fanfic or at least a good read. Who do you think each group would choose as its proxy? ID4 supporting China? Tripods in England? Shroomaliens goofing off on the beaches of the Philippines surfing on zombie cactuars?TithonusSyndrome wrote:Actually, that wouldn't just be fun, that'd be a deviously excellent background for a story intended to be a take on how Cold War powers turned every people in their grasp into some form of proxy for them and their interests, and you could have Earth being courted by both sides in much the same way that so many other small island nations were in that time.
True. "When elephants fight its the grass that suffers."Night_stalker wrote:No matter who wins, we lose.
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