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Night_stalker wrote:The ACLU and the public are going to kill them, and I just know that school just lost all it's federal and state funding.
Have a source for that latter statement? Sounds like some rightious wishing rather than anything legal.
Nope, but I do know the public won't stand for this sort of thing.
Yes they will. You have a very idealized notion of the public.
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hey, once CNN and Fox get ahold of the story, the school will be faced with a sadistic choice. Admit that they are biased, and be picketed, or deny it and get revealed as liars on national TV.
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Night_stalker wrote:hey, once CNN and Fox get ahold of the story, the school will be faced with a sadistic choice. Admit that they are biased, and be picketed, or deny it and get revealed as liars on national TV.
Just like WMDs and Iraq, right?

Again, history of news organizations and the public accepting and denying shit has shown against your train of thought.
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Night_stalker wrote:
Ace Pace wrote:
Night_stalker wrote:The ACLU and the public are going to kill them, and I just know that school just lost all it's federal and state funding.
Have a source for that latter statement? Sounds like some rightious wishing rather than anything legal.
Nope, but I do know the public won't stand for this sort of thing.
The Public, you know all the other kids and parents of kids at the school who went to the relocated prom, did this thing.
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Night_stalker wrote:hey, once CNN and Fox get ahold of the story, the school will be faced with a sadistic choice. Admit that they are biased, and be picketed, or deny it and get revealed as liars on national TV.

Did you read the original posting?
Fulton Mayor Paul Walker said he supports the school district's decision and knew of no private efforts to host the prom.

"I think the community as a whole is probably in support of the school district," Walker said of the town of about 4,000.

Itawamba County is a rural area of about 23,000 people in north Mississippi near the Alabama state line. It's near Pontotoc County, Miss., where more than a decade ago school officials were sued in federal court over their practice of student-led intercom prayer and Bible classes.
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Homophobic Fucktard wrote wrote: I am sick to death of these "special individuals", with "special needs" keep ruining it for the rest of us who are healthy minded, law abiding individuals.
Just say "NO" to this negative behavior, what is wrong with the truth?
Homophobic Fucktard #2 wrote wrote: Whether or not you approve of the behavior the homosexual couple DID ruin the prom for everyone else. Making a stand is fine until innocent people are harmed and in this case that's what happened.
This young lady should step aside and withdraw her lawsuit. It would show her classmates that she cares about them and it would further her cause more then anything else she could do at this point!
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Night_stalker wrote:Nope, but I do know the public won't stand for this sort of thing.
Yes they will. You have a very idealized notion of the public.
Especially in some rural shithole like Itawamba Co. MS.
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Patrick Degan wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:Yes they will. You have a very idealized notion of the public.
Especially in some rural shithole like Itawamba Co. MS.
The idea that rural areas can be...oh, let's say, broken by bad publicity is nice, but it is indeed patently absurd. Unless the rural area makes its living through tourism, they literally could not give a fuck about what the outside world thinks of them. We can condemn them all we want, and hell, the popular media could swarm all over the county for a few weeks. The locals will simply put their heads down and wait for the outsiders to leave, and once they do, it's back to business as before they gained the ire of the world. Nothing will change, except perhaps the few tolerant people in the area might decide to move out.
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The local public at that town are the inbred dipshits. The more national and global public is going to be less tolerant of the schools actions.
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The Advocate confirms that a fake prom was held, in addition to the earlier blog post. To go through that kind of great effort and without her and those others who attended knowing, the scale of secrecy is impressive and disgusting.
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Fire Fly wrote:The Advocate confirms that a fake prom was held, in addition to the earlier blog post. To go through that kind of great effort and without her and those others who attended knowing, the scale of secrecy is impressive and disgusting.
I was wondering about the other 5 students that went to the fake prom. According to the article two of them had learning difficulties, which suggests still more about the attitude of the organisers, not that we needed any more indication.
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Yep, that school is so not PC, it's not even funny. They really don't seem to get the idea: discriminating against people like that only ends badly for you. If they sue the school and it goes to the State Supreme court...
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Night_stalker wrote:Yep, that school is so not PC, it's not even funny. They really don't seem to get the idea: discriminating against people like that only ends badly for you. If they sue the school and it goes to the State Supreme court...
... where the court would rule in favour of the defendant?

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Night_stalker wrote:Yep, that school is so not PC, it's not even funny. They really don't seem to get the idea: discriminating against people like that only ends badly for you. If they sue the school and it goes to the State Supreme court...
Sigh...you do not get it, do you?

It is entirely possible that the school will do not face any direct consequences for this. After all, they held a prom where the lesbian student was not restriced at all. But the other students were so offended by this that they just did not show up. It is not their fault if they have a party at the same time.

At least that could (and propably will) be their official version. As long as you do not have evidence that the school WAS involved in keeping the other students away, i do not see how there could be consequences for the school.
And you can be damn sure that the comunity will keep their mouths shut, so unless there is physical evidence, the school weaseled out of this.

Besides, higher courts do not give out "harsher punishment". A positve ruling would matter because it is a bigger precendece, but since this case is so shaky right now, odds are good that you would have quite a negative outcome.
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Besides, any potential court case would drag on for years, and this girl is a senior. Presumably, she'll graduate this June, move away from Hominy Grits, MS(or whatever town it is), and never come back, leaving the simple townsfolk of Hominy Grits to their own little world.
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MKSheppard wrote:I honestly do not know.

I mean, I didn't pay very much attention to proms when I was in school, so I don't know.

Either way, waste of money that could be put to much better use.
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Is anyone surprised by the fact that when faced with a "problem" like the prom issue, that this Miss School, without a second thought, basically reverted to "Separate but equal"?

I mean there are so many levels that put off when hearing about this. I think the biggest one is that the people in charge quite truly do not see they are doing anything wrong. "We hold one prom for the Homo and other people we don't like, and then we hold one Prom for all the good Christian students! Everyone wins!"

As other have said they will get away with it to. You would have to drive the case to some pretty high courts to get past the inbred prejudices in the local courts. You also would have to get some pretty convincing evidence of a "Conspiracy" instead of a "Oops, we forgot to tell them about the other prom".

But again what gets me here is the fact that once again we see just how much the south has NOT changed. When faced with dealing with someone they didn't like and felt was inferior, they instinctively went back to "Separate but Equal" It really makes me think that the only reason why Black people have "normal rights" in the south is purely because peopel CAN'T get away with Jim Crow laws anymore.
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Crossroads Inc. wrote:It really makes me think that the only reason why Black people have "normal rights" in the south is purely because peopel CAN'T get away with Jim Crow laws anymore.
You are precisely correct on that count. They can't pick on people with an excess of skin pigmentation any more - officially, at least - without facing reprecussions, so they'll pick on another despised minority - those who are heterosexuality-challenged, and - why the fuck not - throw in the retards as well.


That said, with only five seniors in the mix and only two confirmed girls (assuming the principle behind this's girlfriend was also in the running,) I imagine the likelihood that an unpopular lesbian stood a good chance of making prom queen for once. :P
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This 'secret prom' is absolutely disgusting.

It also shows an INCREDIBLE contempt for the law. It was already ruled that attempting to exclude this woman and her partner from the Prom was illegal.

Yet, apparently, a bunch of asshat decided to anyway, and it was supported by a large number of people.

Everyone that originally purchased tickets to the 'cancelled' prom, minus the lesbians + the 5 others that were obviously not at the secret prom, should be...

#1 - Suspended from School
#2 - All Senior year credits revoked.
#3 - Letters to any and all post-secondary educational facilities they applied for about this.

If the Proms backers are identified by the end of the school year, credits are restored, and letters are not sent.

Otherwise, they tried to 'hose' the girl, they get hosed.

Simple as that.

Probably an over-reaction, but given the size of this... It might be justified.
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ShadowDragon8685 wrote:
Crossroads Inc. wrote:It really makes me think that the only reason why Black people have "normal rights" in the south is purely because peopel CAN'T get away with Jim Crow laws anymore.
You are precisely correct on that count. They can't pick on people with an excess of skin pigmentation any more - officially, at least - without facing reprecussions, so they'll pick on another despised minority - those who are heterosexuality-challenged, and - why the fuck not - throw in the retards as well.


That said, with only five seniors in the mix and only two confirmed girls (assuming the principle behind this's girlfriend was also in the running,) I imagine the likelihood that an unpopular lesbian stood a good chance of making prom queen for once. :P
Do you really think that's a funny joke? Because I don't and I suspect not many others will either. It's very much like underscoring the attitude you talk about just in the previous paragraph.

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Edi wrote:Do you really think that's a funny joke? Because I don't and I suspect not many others will either. It's very much like underscoring the attitude you talk about just in the previous paragraph.

Thank your lucky stars that there is that previous paragraph there, because it gives the second one the kind of context that saves you from joining Mystikal's company.
Yes, as a matter of fact I did think it was funny. Not literally laughing-out-loud funny, but a nice bit of gallows humor because the alternative is to sink into a funk of deep impotent simmering anger and pointless re-treading of everything that's come and gone.

In case it hasn't been abundantly clear (hint: if it's not, you're not reading anything I say unless it's to find pretext to lambaste me) I'm personally horrified and disgusted by the actions of the school in this matter.

In any event, the point remains; only five attendees at the 'official' prom, so there's only five possible people to pick for Prom Queen and King, which I think is a fairly big deal in mainstream high schools - at least to the tune of getting their pictures in the year-books and such.

So wouldn't it fry the school's ass if the ACLU sued them to have the voting and contestants for that kind of shennanigan restricted to only those who were officially at the prom, and furthermore to ensure that they give it the exact same treatment as in previous years.

Because I just love the idea of the school being compelled by law to grant the honors usually reserved for the most popular queen bitch in school to the unpopular pariah they tried repeatedly to make a fool out of. :angelic:
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ShadowDragon8685 wrote:those who are heterosexuality-challenged
What the fuck is that supposed to mean? Challenged? Like wheelchair confined people are walking-challenged? Or you are intelligence-challenged Are you trying to make it sound like gay people are missing something?
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Lord Pounder wrote:
ShadowDragon8685 wrote:those who are heterosexuality-challenged
What the fuck is that supposed to mean? Challenged? Like wheelchair confined people are walking-challenged? Or you are intelligence-challenged Are you trying to make it sound like gay people are missing something?
It was me mocking the school and mindset that led to this kind of nonsense, dipshit.
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ShadowDragon8685 wrote:
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ShadowDragon8685 wrote:those who are heterosexuality-challenged
What the fuck is that supposed to mean? Challenged? Like wheelchair confined people are walking-challenged? Or you are intelligence-challenged Are you trying to make it sound like gay people are missing something?
It was me mocking the school and mindset that led to this kind of nonsense, dipshit.
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ShadowDragon8685 wrote:
Lord Pounder wrote:
ShadowDragon8685 wrote:those who are heterosexuality-challenged
What the fuck is that supposed to mean? Challenged? Like wheelchair confined people are walking-challenged? Or you are intelligence-challenged Are you trying to make it sound like gay people are missing something?
It was me mocking the school and mindset that led to this kind of nonsense, dipshit.
Yeah as if people with that mindset would use the world heterosexuality-challenged, they have much more direct language. You obtuse ass kissing wannabe retard.
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Lord Pounder wrote:Yeah as if people with that mindset would use the world heterosexuality-challenged, they have much more direct language. You obtuse ass kissing wannabe retard.
Just whose the fuck ass am I supposed to be kissing, asswipe?

If it wasn't clear to you that that statement was me mocking the people who should be enlightened about these kinds of things (school teachers) but are obviously fuckheaded morons (as in this story,) then you're eithering a fucking failure of detecting sarcasm, or a disingenous shit with pus for brains.
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