Wait til PETA gets a hold of THIS!!

[haas mark]

Actually, cats are far more allergenic than dogs, because they shed finer hair.

I don't see where this detracts from the fact that some people aren't allergic to cats, but are to dogs. I am allergic to puppy fluff, but not to cats.

So? Some people are allergic to peanuts. Doesn't make peanuts bad. Given equal allergies to both, as is the case for me, a cat is more allergenic than a dog.

Point out to me where I disagreed with you, PLEASE..

The underlined portion being the important part. You said dogs are basically treated as indentured servants.

Wrong. I said that cats treat us like indentured servants. Please try to read my posts before commenting on them.

So I misread it. It happens. Cry me a river, build me a bridge, get over it.

[Temjin]

Since this seems to have degenerated into cats vs. dogs I will just point out that cats can and do provide valuble rodent control.

One of my dogs is a small terrier. His rodent control is just fine.

[Joe]

Since this seems to have degenerated into cats vs. dogs I will just point out that cats can and do provide valuble rodent control.

One of my dogs is a small terrier. His rodent control is just fine.

Yes, not only can terriers kill rats just as well as cats, they don't look upon you as a slave (screw indentured servitude, you're a damn slave).

[Darth Wong]

Point out to me where I disagreed with you, PLEASE..

You used allergies as an example of cats' intrinsic superiority over dogs. I showed how absurd this is. It's not my problem that you lack the maturity to admit error.

So I misread it. It happens. Cry me a river, build me a bridge, get over it.

You know, some people are capable of standing up and admitting that kind of error without all of that defensive hand-waving.

[IRG CommandoJoe]

Of course. Get rid of one of the only animals on Earth which actually likes us, in favour of one that treats us as indentured servants

I guess "mine" is an exception to the rule. He's very strange for a cat. He jumps right up in your lap and goes to sleep. He always goes right up to you and whatnot. He's very affectionate for a cat. I say "mine" because it was wandering around our neighborhood and then my family fed him. He kept on coming back, so we kept feeding him. Then eventually we let him in the house. So now our relationship is that he stays inside for the night to sleep and eat and goes outside to do his thing in the day. So I guess he's ours now. (shrugs)

This is what I meant as for cats being evil and whatnot.

Yes. "My" cat isn't evil. He leaves you alone unless he's hungry or wants to sleep on your lap. And he loves it when you rub under his neck. It's also cool when you take a paw in your hand and then squeeze it gently to see his retractable claws come out. I figured he'd be uncomfortable with this, but I guess not. The only spots he doesn't like being touched are underneath him or being subject to excessive amounts of tail-stroking.

[Nova Andromeda]

Since this seems to have degenerated into cats vs. dogs I will just point out that cats can and do provide valuble rodent control.

Sure they do. I have simply observed on many occasions that a lot of cat-lovers seem to expend a lot of effort hating dogs for some reason. And the reasons they give (cats are smarter even though you can't train them as well, cats are better for allergies even though they're more allergenic) are simply absurd.

--Well I don't hate dogs. They make excellent pets which I'm sure the cats appreciate (even if they can't stand to be around such lowly creatures). Lets face it, cats are superior by virtue of being deities (as any well train servant knows).

[darthdavid]

Note, Cats come in a hairless varity so no alerigies.


Funny isn't it? When a person blindly follows orders they're a mindless drone but when animal does it they're smart.

[Joe]

Since this seems to have degenerated into cats vs. dogs I will just point out that cats can and do provide valuble rodent control.

Sure they do. I have simply observed on many occasions that a lot of cat-lovers seem to expend a lot of effort hating dogs for some reason. And the reasons they give (cats are smarter even though you can't train them as well, cats are better for allergies even though they're more allergenic) are simply absurd.

--Well I don't hate dogs. They make excellent pets which I'm sure the cats appreciate (even if they can't stand to be around such lowly creatures). Lets face it, cats are superior by virtue of being deities (as any well train servant knows).

But of course, an animal which considers itself a god to you is clearly preferable to a loving companion....

[Joe]

Note, Cats come in a hairless varity so no alerigies.


Funny isn't it? When a person blindly follows orders they're a mindless drone but when animal does it they're smart.

Ahh! That's no cat, that is a minion of Satan!

And besides, dogs can do more than follow orders. dogs can be trained to do things on their own; seeing eye-dogs need to be trained, but they can do their work on their own, without having someone give them commands.

[Crayz9000]

Note, Cats come in a hairless varity so no alerigies.
http://www.bastetkatz.com/Her_A_Kane_Web.jpg

WHAT HAPPENED TO MR. BIGGLESWORTH?!

[Darth Wong]

Note, Cats come in a hairless varity so no alerigies.

That is the most hideous thing I've seen since Voyager went off the air.

Funny isn't it? When a person blindly follows orders they're a mindless drone but when animal does it they're smart.

Actually, it's the ability to make the mental connection between action and reward that makes a dog trainable. Unless you believe that humans are idiots because we drag our asses off to work every day for a paycheque.

Most of the bizarre attacks on dog intelligence that I've seen from cat-lovers could be easily applied to humans. I think this should tell you something about the validity of their logic.

[haas mark]

Point out to me where I disagreed with you, PLEASE..

You used allergies as an example of cats' intrinsic superiority over dogs. I showed how absurd this is. It's not my problem that you lack the maturity to admit error.

I didn't once say cats were superior to dogs in any way, shape, or form, other than my opinion.

So I misread it. It happens. Cry me a river, build me a bridge, get over it.

You know, some people are capable of standing up and admitting that kind of error without all of that defensive hand-waving.

You know, some people are capable of not turning bullshit like this into a debate.

[Temjin]

Note, Cats come in a hairless varity so no alerigies.

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Funny isn't it? When a person blindly follows orders they're a mindless drone but when animal does it they're smart.

The fact that the dog understands the orders are what makes him smart.

[Ren]

Since this seems to have degenerated into cats vs. dogs I will just point out that cats can and do provide valuble rodent control.

One of my dogs is a small terrier. His rodent control is just fine.

Yes, not only can terriers kill rats just as well as cats, they don't look upon you as a slave (screw indentured servitude, you're a damn slave).

Not that I doubt the terriers ability to kill rats and stuff but it just seems to me cats are better at it then dogs, maybe it's that their pounce tactics seem more effective on this type of prey. How big are terrier's? Do you have to worry about them being killed by coyotes and stuff?

[Darth Wong]

You know, some people are capable of not turning bullshit like this into a debate.

Pot calling the kettle black. Nobody put a gun to your head and forced you to try to make serious points about cats vs dogs (and you can deny it all you like, but your own words betray you).

[darthdavid]

Also i do have a dog. A siberian huskey. I also have 6 cats. None of them are keen on the whole oreders thing though most of them (cats included) will do simple tricks for food, affection or some combination of the two.

[Ghost Rider]

Cats hunt with a general tactic of hide and seek.

Dogs use smell.

That's the basic difference in styles.

The reason cats are bettr barnyard hunters is less care is needed for the cat.

As between the two pets, I have had both and both are fun...currently have two cats I adopted.

[Darth Wong]

Also i do have a dog. A siberian huskey. I also have 6 cats. None of them are keen on the whole oreders thing though most of them (cats included) will do simple tricks for food, affection or some combination of the two.

It's the complicated tricks that impress me, like helping a blind man navigate through the street. After seeing the nobility and loyalty of a seeing-eye dog, I honestly cannot believe there are still people out there trying to "prove" that cats are better. Show me a cat that will do for a poor blind person what a dog does, and then I'll be suitably impressed.

[Joe]

One of my dogs is a small terrier. His rodent control is just fine.

Yes, not only can terriers kill rats just as well as cats, they don't look upon you as a slave (screw indentured servitude, you're a damn slave).

Not that I doubt the terriers ability to kill rats and stuff but it just seems to me cats are better at it then dogs, maybe it's that their pounce tactics seem more effective on this type of prey. How big are terrier's? Do you have to worry about them being killed by coyotes and stuff?

Terriers vary in size, from less than five pounds to the mid-twenties, I think. And since there are no coyotes, last I checked, prowling around Marietta, Georgia, I don't have to worry that much about my terrier running off and getting herself killed by a coyote.

[haas mark]

You know, some people are capable of not turning bullshit like this into a debate.

Pot calling the kettle black. Nobody put a gun to your head and forced you to try to make serious points about cats vs dogs (and you can deny it all you like, but your own words betray you).

This is true, but can I not say the same about you?

[Temjin]

Not that I doubt the terriers ability to kill rats and stuff but it just seems to me cats are better at it then dogs, maybe it's that their pounce tactics seem more effective on this type of prey. How big are terrier's? Do you have to worry about them being killed by coyotes and stuff?

I live in the inner city of the capital of Manitoba. Canada isn't that uncivilized.

Mine is about a foot tall. Plus, except for the first few months, we have not seen a mouse for as long as we have had him (11 or 12 years now).

[Darth Wong]

Cats probably make fine pets for people who are inclined to own them. I just don't understand why cat-lovers feel compelled to pretend that cats are smarter than dogs in spite of all evidence to the contrary. At best, they have better instincts for doing certain things, but instincts and learning ability are two different things.

[Darth Wong]

You know, some people are capable of not turning bullshit like this into a debate.

Pot calling the kettle black. Nobody put a gun to your head and forced you to try to make serious points about cats vs dogs (and you can deny it all you like, but your own words betray you).

This is true, but can I not say the same about you?

Sure, but if I start a debate, I make sure I can finish it without having to slink off and pretend that I didn't want a debate in the first place.

[haas mark]

Cats probably make fine pets for people who are inclined to own them. I just don't understand why cat-lovers feel compelled to pretend that cats are smarter than dogs in spite of all evidence to the contrary. At best, they have better instincts for doing certain things, but instincts and learning ability are two different things.

I am not denying that cats are/not dumber/smarter than dogs, but in some ways they do seem moreso.

[haas mark]

Sure, but if I start a debate, I make sure I can finish it without having to slink off and pretend that I didn't want a debate in the first place.

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