Wait til PETA gets a hold of THIS!!

[Ren]

Not that I doubt the terriers ability to kill rats and stuff but it just seems to me cats are better at it then dogs, maybe it's that their pounce tactics seem more effective on this type of prey. How big are terrier's? Do you have to worry about them being killed by coyotes and stuff?

I live in the inner city of the capital of Manitoba. Canada isn't that uncivilized.

Mine is about a foot tall. Plus, except for the first few months, we have not seen a mouse for as long as we have had him (11 or 12 years now).

A little smaller than my cat then, probably not good for around here seeing as there are coyotes and owls and the like.

[Temjin]

Not that I doubt the terriers ability to kill rats and stuff but it just seems to me cats are better at it then dogs, maybe it's that their pounce tactics seem more effective on this type of prey. How big are terrier's? Do you have to worry about them being killed by coyotes and stuff?

I live in the inner city of the capital of Manitoba. Canada isn't that uncivilized.

Mine is about a foot tall. Plus, except for the first few months, we have not seen a mouse for as long as we have had him (11 or 12 years now).

A little smaller than my cat then, probably not good for around here seeing as there are coyotes and owls and the like.

You do know I mean while on 4 paws?

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[Ren]

Also i do have a dog. A siberian huskey. I also have 6 cats. None of them are keen on the whole oreders thing though most of them (cats included) will do simple tricks for food, affection or some combination of the two.

It's the complicated tricks that impress me, like helping a blind man navigate through the street. After seeing the nobility and loyalty of a seeing-eye dog, I honestly cannot believe there are still people out there trying to "prove" that cats are better. Show me a cat that will do for a poor blind person what a dog does, and then I'll be suitably impressed.

So would I. That would have to be one big cat, think about the size of seeing eye-dogs, their usually above their owners knee, a cat that size would be impressive indeed.

[darthdavid]

A mountian lion, lynx or bobcat would do the job niceley. Let it go in front of the blind man and the street clears out to the point where the blind man doesn't have to avoid anything.

[Ren]

I live in the inner city of the capital of Manitoba. Canada isn't that uncivilized.

Mine is about a foot tall. Plus, except for the first few months, we have not seen a mouse for as long as we have had him (11 or 12 years now).

A little smaller than my cat then, probably not good for around here seeing as there are coyotes and owls and the like.

You do know I mean while on 4 paws?

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That's what I thought you meant, and he is a little smaller than my cat was, I keep forgeting that he died

[Ghost Rider]

A mountian lion, lynx or bobcat would do the job niceley. Let it go in front of the blind man and the street clears out to the point where the blind man doesn't have to avoid anything.

Or gets a bullet between it's eyes.

All in all yes there are big enough Cats...but any takers upon training them?

[darthdavid]

I had a beautiful siamese, he got hit by a car. On the bright side he weighed about 15-16 lbs so he probably put a major dent in the idiot's fender.

[Temjin]

That's what I thought you meant, and he is a little smaller than my cat was, I keep forgeting that he died

Sorry for your loss. I will absolutly hate when my dog dies. Spud (yes, that's his name) and I have been through alot together.

[haas mark]

Any chance of splitting of the Cats vs. Dogs part of this?

[Ren]

That's what I thought you meant, and he is a little smaller than my cat was, I keep forgeting that he died

Sorry for your loss. I will absolutly hate when my dog dies. Spud (yes, that's his name) and I have been through alot together.

It wouldn't have been so bad but this one died of old age rather than being eaten like most of them so I had to watch him waste away and die.

[Temjin]

Any chance of splitting of the Cats vs. Dogs part of this?

ugh, I am so sorry for starting that. Who knew that one innocent joke could turn into...... this.

[haas mark]

Any chance of splitting of the Cats vs. Dogs part of this?

ugh, I am so sorry for starting that. Who knew that one innocent joke could turn into...... this.

Eh, it's all good. It happens.

[Temjin]

That's what I thought you meant, and he is a little smaller than my cat was, I keep forgeting that he died

Sorry for your loss. I will absolutly hate when my dog dies. Spud (yes, that's his name) and I have been through alot together.

It wouldn't have been so bad but this one died of old age rather than being eaten like most of them so I had to watch him waste away and die.

I can not imagine what that was like. The one bad part about having a cat or dog is that you always out live them.

[darthdavid]

Unless you're about 100.

[Cap'n Hector]

PETA: People Eat Tasty Animals

[The Yosemite Bear]

You really don't want me to start adding my .02 to the discussion by brining up the kinds of "Dogs" and "Cats" that live near me.

I tell you those kittens are absolutly adorable, and those puppys are perfect too.

[Peregrin Toker]

H.P. Lovecraft on dogs vs. cats:

Cats & Dogs

[Vertigo1]

Sorry if I piss anyone off for bumping this up, but I had to add this:

If anyone doubts the intelligence of dogs, you really need to meet my dogs. (For the record, they're half german shepard and yellow lab. They're also from the same litter.) Shadow, the female, suprised the hell out of me by jumping up and giving me a kiss right smack dab on my cheek. I stand about 6'2" tall. Thing is...I didn't teach her to do that. All I did was teach her how to jump. She did that all on her own.

She also does it when I mock her. Particularly when I mock her barking.

me with my two dogs

[Darth Wong]

H.P. Lovecraft on dogs vs. cats:

Cats & Dogs

Lovecraft was an eloquent moron.

[Darth Wong]

To expand on that point, read the article and notice how he doesn't actually make an argument of any kind. He simply states an unsupported opinion over and over, in very repetitive and long-winded ways, mindlessly attacking dog owners as beings of inferior intellect.

[RedImperator]

H.P. Lovecraft on dogs vs. cats:

Cats & Dogs

Lovecraft was an eloquent moron.

Be ready for the wrath of the Cthullu-worshippers now.

[Peregrin Toker]

H.P. Lovecraft on dogs vs. cats:

Cats & Dogs

Lovecraft was an eloquent moron.

Ad hominem fallacy.

To expand on that point, read the article and notice how he doesn't actually make an argument of any kind. He simply states an unsupported opinion over and over, in very repetitive and long-winded ways, mindlessly attacking dog owners as beings of inferior intellect.

Lovecraft's rants on cats vs. dogs is indeed quite tedious compared to his fiction, and while I also find him to be rather ignorant on some points, (did Lovecraft ever know that many upper-class people have dogs??) he does bring up one interesting point:

"We would not call a weak-spirited man more intelligent than an independent citizen because we can make him vote as we wish whereas we can't influence the independent citizen, yet countless persons apply an exactly parallel argument in appraising the grey matter of dogs and cats."

[Darth Wong]

H.P. Lovecraft on dogs vs. cats:

Cats & Dogs

Lovecraft was an eloquent moron.

Ad hominem fallacy.

It would be if it were not followed up with an argument. Nice to see they still don't teach jack shit in school, dumb-ass.

Lovecraft's rants on cats vs. dogs is indeed quite tedious compared to his fiction, and while I also find him to be rather ignorant on some points, (did Lovecraft ever know that many upper-class people have dogs??) he does bring up one interesting point:

"We would not call a weak-spirited man more intelligent than an independent citizen because we can make him vote as we wish whereas we can't influence the independent citizen, yet countless persons apply an exactly parallel argument in appraising the grey matter of dogs and cats."

So it is "weak-spirited" to be capable of learning, or to make the connection between action and reward? I guess that's the way stupid people rationalize their learning disabilities, eh?

If you thought that was an interesting point, you're clearly dumber than I thought. Again, note how he does not actually make an argument; he simply states it as a given that a dog must be "weak-willed" because it can be trained. By his idiotic reasoning, humans are "weak-willed" too, since we are trained more easily than dogs or cats.

[Sidious]

I have a Beagle, my girlfriend has 4 cats. If I get mad at my beagle because he did something wrong I yell at him, he slinks away and comes back a few moments later for a belly rub. If I yell at her cats they run away, I dont see them for a few days and in that time all my laundry starts to smell like cat piss.

I like dogs.

[The Yosemite Bear]

I deal well with both of them.

Of course in Lovecraft's fiction Cats are more powerful then alien gods....

I will never understand the fantiscism that some people apply to pack vs. solitiary predators for companions.