You're Princess Leia.
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You're Princess Leia.
Q decides to put you into the body of Princess Leia Organa about a week before the events of A New Hope, he wants to see if you can make things better or at the very least, even more entertaining.
When Q has decided you've succeeded, he'll return you to your original body with no time passing, he's nice like that.
When Q has decided you've succeeded, he'll return you to your original body with no time passing, he's nice like that.
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Re: You're Princess Leia.
Put me in Leia's body and I'm sure I'll find some way to entertain myself. Not sure if it'll help the Rebellion cause however.
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I stay on Alderran, fuck Winter for the time, and bemoan the end of...oh yeah, the Alliance. And not care.
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I'd make sure to wear no underwear beneath the slave costume, bringing about the overexcited demise of a thousand fanboys.
And on a more intelligent note, I'd have the Falcon drag the DS into a wild goose chase around the Galaxy, maybe sending messages to the Alliance in order to set up an ambush. Heck, I'd make the Empire believe the rebel base was hidden in Coruscant all along.
Not to mention that, if had knowledge that she didn't have, like what Tarkin was planning to do to Alderaan, biting my own tounge to drown in my own blood before he got the need to prove his point would be a very real option.
And on a more intelligent note, I'd have the Falcon drag the DS into a wild goose chase around the Galaxy, maybe sending messages to the Alliance in order to set up an ambush. Heck, I'd make the Empire believe the rebel base was hidden in Coruscant all along.
Not to mention that, if had knowledge that she didn't have, like what Tarkin was planning to do to Alderaan, biting my own tounge to drown in my own blood before he got the need to prove his point would be a very real option.
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You mean the slave costume from Return of the Jedi.LordOskuro wrote:I'd make sure to wear no underwear beneath the slave costume, bringing about the overexcited demise of a thousand fanboys.
Personally, I'd address Vader as Ani constantly.
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Whereas I'd go 'daddy! ' at him and just wait to see if he has a heart attack.
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No, you'd do it once.Darth Paxis wrote:Personally, I'd address Vader as Ani constantly.
Your adoptive father is still supporting the Alliance, and there's still a chance that, sooner or later, the Death Star will show up overhead. Oh, and while the Alliance might not be as big on murder and torture as the Empire, they're not going to be exactly thrilled at the perceived double-cross. Hell, given the time this starts at, you might already be in the middle of a Rebel mission with Imperials in pursuit. And if that isn't enough, well, you're probably pissing off Q as well.Ghost Rider wrote:I stay on Alderran, fuck Winter for the time, and bemoan the end of...oh yeah, the Alliance. And not care.
So you pretty much join the Alliance, join the Empire, or die.
This is a bit more sensible, though I doubt flying to Coruscant of all places would do. I doubt Palpatine or any of his top minions would buy the Rebel base being their, and it would be about the next closest thing to suicide after flying back to the Death Star.LordOskuro wrote:And on a more intelligent note, I'd have the Falcon drag the DS into a wild goose chase around the Galaxy, maybe sending messages to the Alliance in order to set up an ambush. Heck, I'd make the Empire believe the rebel base was hidden in Coruscant all along.
Not to mention that, if had knowledge that she didn't have, like what Tarkin was planning to do to Alderaan, biting my own tounge to drown in my own blood before he got the need to prove his point would be a very real option.
Re: You're Princess Leia.
Let the Empire destroy the Rebels so the Empire can curb-stomp the coming Yuuzhan Vong invasion.
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I make sure Bail suffers an unfortunate "accident" in the mountains of Alderaan, take over and declare public support for the Empire, then carefully plant rumors of a rebel base somewhere else like... let's see. Manaan. Nobody will miss Manaan. Granted that may mean Tarkin would think it a waste of time like Dantooine, but at least Alderaan should be safe by keeping it's nose out of the Empire's politics.
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Yep, letting the Empire blow up planets for 25 years, will stop those pesky Yuuzhan Vong killing worlds! Great plan.atg wrote:Let the Empire destroy the Rebels so the Empire can curb-stomp the coming Yuuzhan Vong invasion.
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The only reason anyone can even attempt to argue that the Empire is worth saving (and really given what the Empire's canonically done, if they were a real world state defending them would put you at about the moral level of a Neo-Nazi) is because the Republic did such a piss-poor job against the Yuuzhan Vong.
However, there is no case in this scenario why history has to repeat itself. If you're willing to use you time in Leia's body to alter galactic history, there's no reason you can't alter it to make the Republic stronger, presuming the Rebellion wins. Of course, weather the Rebellion wins is very much in doubt. That victory was essentially a fluke that depended on a very specific set of circumstances (Luke being on the Death Star II with Vader and Palpatine, Luke refusing to turn, Vader redeeming himself, Palpatine not seeing it coming), and there's no reason to presume that in even a slightly altered timeline things are going to work out the same.
Frankly, your smartest move if your goal is still to win the Rebellion might be to go find Luke, Obi-wan, and Yoda, train in the Force (if Force ability is an inherited biological trait, then Leia's body should still have its full abilities), and hope you can kill Palpatine the hard way. Obi-wan and Yoda might wonder how the hell you found them and know what you know, but in that case you've got two options: either tell them that Bail Organa spilled the beans and hope they buy it, or simply tell them the truth. I wouldn't be all that surprised if Yoda and Obi-wan could sense you weren't actually Princess Leia.
From that point on, take advantage of what you know. You will know where the Empire's hidden bases are (Byss, Wayland, the Maw, etc), or at least you will know who does know. You will know there's a 13th Grand Admiral out their. You will know to keep Borsk Fey'lya out of the fucking government. You will know where to find Bel Iblis and that its important to convince him to stay in the Alliance. You will know to keeping funding the construction of Star Dreadnoughts. You will know to make sure all of Palpatine's clones are taken out. You will know the Vong are coming.
But no, let's turn the Galaxy over to the Empire and ensure that the greatest monster in galactic history will rule forever, unopposed.
However, there is no case in this scenario why history has to repeat itself. If you're willing to use you time in Leia's body to alter galactic history, there's no reason you can't alter it to make the Republic stronger, presuming the Rebellion wins. Of course, weather the Rebellion wins is very much in doubt. That victory was essentially a fluke that depended on a very specific set of circumstances (Luke being on the Death Star II with Vader and Palpatine, Luke refusing to turn, Vader redeeming himself, Palpatine not seeing it coming), and there's no reason to presume that in even a slightly altered timeline things are going to work out the same.
Frankly, your smartest move if your goal is still to win the Rebellion might be to go find Luke, Obi-wan, and Yoda, train in the Force (if Force ability is an inherited biological trait, then Leia's body should still have its full abilities), and hope you can kill Palpatine the hard way. Obi-wan and Yoda might wonder how the hell you found them and know what you know, but in that case you've got two options: either tell them that Bail Organa spilled the beans and hope they buy it, or simply tell them the truth. I wouldn't be all that surprised if Yoda and Obi-wan could sense you weren't actually Princess Leia.
From that point on, take advantage of what you know. You will know where the Empire's hidden bases are (Byss, Wayland, the Maw, etc), or at least you will know who does know. You will know there's a 13th Grand Admiral out their. You will know to keep Borsk Fey'lya out of the fucking government. You will know where to find Bel Iblis and that its important to convince him to stay in the Alliance. You will know to keeping funding the construction of Star Dreadnoughts. You will know to make sure all of Palpatine's clones are taken out. You will know the Vong are coming.
But no, let's turn the Galaxy over to the Empire and ensure that the greatest monster in galactic history will rule forever, unopposed.
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Re: You're Princess Leia.
Unlikely coincidences are the will of the Force, are they not?
I suppose that an incident similar to to intro of A New Hope would have to be staged to get Luke off his ass, preferably with a ship and crew not tracable to Alderaan.
If that's not possible then I have Luke and Obi-Wan extracted from Tatooine then get Luke and I trained in Dagobah later on (I'm fairly sure the EU implies Leia has a similar potential to Luke, she just never went down that path). Might go and buy Han Solo's services while I'm at it.
The important difference in all this would be keeping Alderaan safe from Tarkin's trigger finger, but alsoto keep the events that lead to the Empire's demise more or less intact. To that end I would reveal the location of Yavin IV to the Empire at the proper time to "prove my loyalty" and trust that Luke would do his thing. Given the DS' destruction would be a fluke, it could hardly be blamed on me as an ambush or what have you.
I suppose that an incident similar to to intro of A New Hope would have to be staged to get Luke off his ass, preferably with a ship and crew not tracable to Alderaan.
If that's not possible then I have Luke and Obi-Wan extracted from Tatooine then get Luke and I trained in Dagobah later on (I'm fairly sure the EU implies Leia has a similar potential to Luke, she just never went down that path). Might go and buy Han Solo's services while I'm at it.
The important difference in all this would be keeping Alderaan safe from Tarkin's trigger finger, but alsoto keep the events that lead to the Empire's demise more or less intact. To that end I would reveal the location of Yavin IV to the Empire at the proper time to "prove my loyalty" and trust that Luke would do his thing. Given the DS' destruction would be a fluke, it could hardly be blamed on me as an ambush or what have you.
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Perhaps, but best to play it safe.Gramzamber wrote:Unlikely coincidences are the will of the Force, are they not?
Needlessly complicated. Just fly your damn corvette to freaking Tatooine and tell Luke "your father was a Jedi and we need your help against the Empire." He'll jump at the chance. If leaving his family is a problem, offer to give them, say, fifty thousand credits. If their security is a problem, offer to give them new identities and a new home anywhere of there choice. You have the resources of the ruling family of a major core world at your disposal here.I suppose that an incident similar to to intro of A New Hope would have to be staged to get Luke off his ass, preferably with a ship and crew not tracable to Alderaan.
Might be wise.If that's not possible then I have Luke and Obi-Wan extracted from Tatooine then get Luke and I trained in Dagobah later on (I'm fairly sure the EU implies Leia has a similar potential to Luke, she just never went down that path). Might go and buy Han Solo's services while I'm at it.
How much time do you have? This starts a week before Episode four.The important difference in all this would be keeping Alderaan safe from Tarkin's trigger finger, but alsoto keep the events that lead to the Empire's demise more or less intact. To that end I would reveal the location of Yavin IV to the Empire at the proper time to "prove my loyalty" and trust that Luke would do his thing. Given the DS' destruction would be a fluke, it could hardly be blamed on me as an ambush or what have you.
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Seeing as we don't know exactly when Q would send us back we don't know how many of those changes we would have a chance to take place.The Romulan Republic wrote:But no, let's turn the Galaxy over to the Empire and ensure that the greatest monster in galactic history will rule forever, unopposed.
Marcus Aurelius: ...the Swedish S-tank; the exception is made mostly because the Swedes insisted really hard that it is a tank rather than a tank destroyer or assault gun
Ilya Muromets: And now I have this image of a massive, stern-looking Swede staring down a bunch of military nerds. "It's a tank." "Uh, yes Sir. Please don't hurt us."
Ilya Muromets: And now I have this image of a massive, stern-looking Swede staring down a bunch of military nerds. "It's a tank." "Uh, yes Sir. Please don't hurt us."
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The OP explicitly states its a week before A New Hope.atg wrote: Seeing as we don't know exactly when Q would send us back we don't know how many of those changes we would have a chance to take place.
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One important factor the OP doesn't mention is whether we have our out-of-universe knowledge of the events that originally transpire. I assume that we do.
If so, any great deviation from how things happened originally can have a drastic and unpredictable effect on how events transpire. You're Leia, do you really step onto the Tantive IV knowing full well that it's going to be attacked by an ISD with Vader on it? On the other hand, if you keep your mouth shut and go according to the script you already know, well, you know you're going to be rescued by Luke and Han. On the other hand, if you follow the script Alderaan and your family and friends who were on it get their atoms scattered when Tarkin rocks up. Can you accelerate things, maybe lauch in an escape pod to Tattooine with Artoo before the Devastator can knock the shields out and snag you with a tractor beam?
Do you even need the plans now that you already know that the thermal exhaust port is where it's vulnerable? But can any attack on the Death Star succeed without Luke making the killing shot by using the Force?
If so, any great deviation from how things happened originally can have a drastic and unpredictable effect on how events transpire. You're Leia, do you really step onto the Tantive IV knowing full well that it's going to be attacked by an ISD with Vader on it? On the other hand, if you keep your mouth shut and go according to the script you already know, well, you know you're going to be rescued by Luke and Han. On the other hand, if you follow the script Alderaan and your family and friends who were on it get their atoms scattered when Tarkin rocks up. Can you accelerate things, maybe lauch in an escape pod to Tattooine with Artoo before the Devastator can knock the shields out and snag you with a tractor beam?
Do you even need the plans now that you already know that the thermal exhaust port is where it's vulnerable? But can any attack on the Death Star succeed without Luke making the killing shot by using the Force?
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Hell, the Tantive IV isn't the fastest ship out there. Knowing the Tantive IV will be run down by Vader, why not take a different damn ship?Stofsk wrote:One important factor the OP doesn't mention is whether we have our out-of-universe knowledge of the events that originally transpire. I assume that we do.
If so, any great deviation from how things happened originally can have a drastic and unpredictable effect on how events transpire. You're Leia, do you really step onto the Tantive IV knowing full well that it's going to be attacked by an ISD with Vader on it? On the other hand, if you keep your mouth shut and go according to the script you already know, well, you know you're going to be rescued by Luke and Han. On the other hand, if you follow the script Alderaan and your family and friends who were on it get their atoms scattered when Tarkin rocks up. Can you accelerate things, maybe lauch in an escape pod to Tattooine with Artoo before the Devastator can knock the shields out and snag you with a tractor beam?
Do we know where that exhaust port is? Are there multiple exhaust ports?Do you even need the plans now that you already know that the thermal exhaust port is where it's vulnerable?
In theory it could, but I think it would basically be a matter of luck with a non-Force sensitive pilot. Unless of course you suddenly find a fleet of Dreadnoughts lying around to use.But can any attack on the Death Star succeed without Luke making the killing shot by using the Force?
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Sorry I meant when we'd be sent back out of Leia's body.The Romulan Republic wrote:The OP explicitly states its a week before A New Hope.atg wrote: Seeing as we don't know exactly when Q would send us back we don't know how many of those changes we would have a chance to take place.
Marcus Aurelius: ...the Swedish S-tank; the exception is made mostly because the Swedes insisted really hard that it is a tank rather than a tank destroyer or assault gun
Ilya Muromets: And now I have this image of a massive, stern-looking Swede staring down a bunch of military nerds. "It's a tank." "Uh, yes Sir. Please don't hurt us."
Ilya Muromets: And now I have this image of a massive, stern-looking Swede staring down a bunch of military nerds. "It's a tank." "Uh, yes Sir. Please don't hurt us."
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I dunno. Diplomatic immunity?The Romulan Republic wrote:Hell, the Tantive IV isn't the fastest ship out there. Knowing the Tantive IV will be run down by Vader, why not take a different damn ship?
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What did Dodonna say, 'It's a small thermal exhaust port, right before the main port'? That doesn't matter, DS1 has a diameter of 120km which would mean a surface area of over 45K square kilometres. We would need the plans regardless, just to know where the fucking thing is. Unless we want to play 'pin the proton torpedo on the Death Star' all afternoon.Do we know where that exhaust port is? Are there multiple exhaust ports?
I agree you probably could, but on the other hand if you really do have a week to get started, I would jump start things and go to Tattooine and get Luke and Obi-wan first.In theory it could, but I think it would basically be a matter of luck with a non-Force sensitive pilot. Unless of course you suddenly find a fleet of Dreadnoughts lying around to use.But can any attack on the Death Star succeed without Luke making the killing shot by using the Force?
As for the Katana Fleet, well, that would depend on finding and locating a man named Talon Kaarde.
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Ok. It would be nice if the OP clarified that point. Until then, I will assume "indefinitely."atg wrote: Sorry I meant when we'd be sent back out of Leia's body.
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Agreed.Stofsk wrote: I agree you probably could, but on the other hand if you really do have a week to get started, I would jump start things and go to Tattooine and get Luke and Obi-wan first.
Ah, that was a misunderstanding. I was talking about actual Dreadnoughts, not old Clone Wars cruisers (why ships smaller than ISDs are called Dreadnoughts I don't know). The Katana fleet would be a mild inconvenience at worst to the Death Star.As for the Katana Fleet, well, that would depend on finding and locating a man named Talon Kaarde.
That said, it would still help the Rebels to get the Katana Fleet. At this point in the timeline, it might actually outgun their entire existing fleet, and give them much greater capabilities.
Though as for finding it, doesn't Bel Iblis know where it is too? Don't remember Dark Force Rising that well.
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Bel Iblis had contact with Karrde's former captain who also knew where the fleet was and had sold 6(?) of the ships to Iblis.The Romulan Republic wrote:Though as for finding it, doesn't Bel Iblis know where it is too? Don't remember Dark Force Rising that well.
Marcus Aurelius: ...the Swedish S-tank; the exception is made mostly because the Swedes insisted really hard that it is a tank rather than a tank destroyer or assault gun
Ilya Muromets: And now I have this image of a massive, stern-looking Swede staring down a bunch of military nerds. "It's a tank." "Uh, yes Sir. Please don't hurt us."
Ilya Muromets: And now I have this image of a massive, stern-looking Swede staring down a bunch of military nerds. "It's a tank." "Uh, yes Sir. Please don't hurt us."
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Easy - because the first-of-class was (presumably) called GRS (or whatever the Old Republic's prefix was) Dreadnought. Calling them heavy cruisers is daft, but the class name is no problem.The Romulan Republic wrote:I was talking about actual Dreadnoughts, not old Clone Wars cruisers (why ships smaller than ISDs are called Dreadnoughts I don't know).
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Buy a full-length mirror...aside from that? I'm really not sure. Make any major changes and I go off the rails of the movie very quickly. I would suggest loading the Death Star blueprints into every planetary network I can, but that might just spur the Empire to do something to cover that one crucial weakness.
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Re: You're Princess Leia.
160km, you heathen. Purge the heretic!hat doesn't matter, DS1 has a diameter of 120km
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