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The New York Times:
April 28, 2010
Coast Guard to Try Burning Oil as It Nears Land
By CAMPBELL ROBERTSON and LESLIE KAUFMAN

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In this aerial photo taken in the Gulf of Mexico, weathered oil is seen near the coast of Louisiana after a leak that resulted from last week's explosion.

NEW ORLEANS — Crews struggling to contain the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico will light some of the petroleum on fire at 11 a.m. Central time in an attempt to burn it off before it reaches shore.

A Coast Guard spokesman said on Wednesday that crews would begin with an initial burn in a confined area of the spill to determine the density of the oil.

According to a statement released by the group of industry and government officials supervising the burn, the oil will be consolidated “into a fire resistant boom approximately 500 feet long; this oil will then be towed to a more remote area, where it will be ignited and burned in a controlled manner.”

From there, officials will conduct “small, controlled burns of several thousand gallons of oil lasting approximately one hour each.”

“The big things that we have to pay attention to are the sea conditions,” Coast Guard Senior Chief Petty Officer Steven Carleton said. “Solid oil obviously has the ability to burn, but it doesn’t burn the same way that gasoline does.”

Officials turned to the burning option when the slick of oil, released when a drilling rig caught fire 50 miles offshore and sank last week, drifted to within 23 miles of the ecologically fragile Louisiana coastline on Tuesday.

Tony Hayward, chief executive of British Petroleum, which leased the rig, known as Deepwater Horizon, described slick the spilled oil as very light, like “iced tea,” and only one-tenth of a millimeter thick, as thin as a human hair.

“We will be judged primarily on the strength of our response,” said Mr. Hayward, who was in Southwest Louisiana to supervise the burn.

A joint government and industry task force had been unable to stop crude oil from streaming out of a broken pipe attached to a well that the rig had been drilling nearly a mile below sea level. The leaks in the pipe, which were found on Saturday, are releasing about 42,000 gallons of oil a day into the Gulf of Mexico southeast of Venice, La.

Officials said on Tuesday that wind projections indicated that the oil would not reach land in the next three days, and it was unclear exactly where along the Gulf Coast it might arrive first.

“If some of the weather conditions continue, the Delta area is at risk,” said Charlie Henry, scientific support coordinator for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

Rear Adm. Mary E. Landry noted that the coastal area near the spill contains some 40 percent of the nation’s wetlands and is the spawning ground for countless fish and birds.

Controlled burns have been done and tested before, Admiral Landry said, and had been shown to be “effective in burning 50 to 95 percent of oil collected in a fire boom.” The main disadvantage, she said, was a “black plume” of smoke from the burn that would put soot and other particulate pollutants into the air.

Other short-term efforts to control the oil have so far been unsuccessful, and the political pressure has intensified.

On Tuesday, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and Interior Secretary Ken Salazar said they were expanding the government’s investigation of the explosion that caused the oil rig disaster. The inquiry will have subpoena power and will look into possible criminal or civil violations by the operators of the drilling rig — Transocean, a Swiss company — and by related companies.

Administration officials also met Tuesday with top executives of BP, which is required by law to pay for the cleanup. Last fall, as the federal government was weighing tougher safety and environmental rules for drilling in the Gulf of Mexico, BP objected, saying its voluntary programs were successful.

BP engineers have failed so far to activate a device known as a blowout preventer, a valve at the wellhead that is meant to stop oil flow in an emergency, and is the only short-term solution for capping the well.

Doug Suttles, the chief operating officer for exploration and production at BP, defended the company’s efforts, and said the cleanup was costing $6 million a day. He said engineers had not given up on engaging the valve and were exploring other possibilities as well.

Mr. Suttles said that a plan to use a type of tent or dome to collect the oil was progressing, and was two to four weeks from being operational. On Tuesday, the company received permits to drill a relief well, which would be started half a mile from the current well site. Crews plan to drill toward the current well and then inject it with heavy fluids and concrete to seal it. That solution is experimental at this depth, however, and is months away.

Coast Guard officials said they were not expecting landfall for the spill in the next three days. But Doug Helton, the incident operations coordinator for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s emergency response division, said winds would change Wednesday and start pushing the spill north and west toward the Mississippi Delta. “It is going to land eventually,” Mr. Helton said.

The prospect alarmed fisherman and ecologists along the Louisiana coast. Gov. Bobby Jindal requested that the Coast Guard set up protective booms around several wildlife refuges in the Delta.

Those delicate coastal rookeries and estuaries factor into the consideration for the surface burn. Such a burn would most likely ease the impact on wildlife.

The oceanic agency issued a guide to the burn that advised as follows:

“Based on our limited experience, birds and mammals are more capable of handling the risk of a local fire and temporary smoke plume than of handling the risk posed by a spreading oil slick. Birds flying in the plume can become disoriented, and could suffer toxic effects. This risk, however, is minimal when compared to oil coating and ingestion.”

A burn does not get rid of the oil entirely. It leaves waxy residue that can either be skimmed from the surface or sink to the bottom of the ocean.

Liz Robbins contributed reporting from New York.

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April 27, 2010
Oil Rig Blast Complicates Push for Energy and Climate Bill
By JOHN M. BRODER

WASHINGTON — The loss of life and the looming ecological catastrophe from the oil rig explosion in the Gulf of Mexico have piled political complications onto the push for energy and climate change legislation here, officials and interest groups say.

Expanded offshore oil and gas drilling is a central component to the compromise plan being written in the Senate to address the nation’s energy needs and the emissions of the gases that contribute to global warming. The plan, which still does not exist in legislative form, would also include multibillion-dollar incentives for nuclear power and so-called clean-coal research.

The energy initiative is already in trouble because a crucial sponsor, Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, has walked away from negotiations as a result of a dispute with the White House and Senate Democratic leaders over immigration policy.

The oil spill may have added to its distress. Several senators said they were troubled by the accident and might not support broad climate and energy legislation if it contains expanding drilling without adequate safeguards.

Senator Robert Menendez, Democrat of New Jersey, said he had many concerns about the energy bill that appears to be taking shape, chief among them the aggressive pursuit of offshore oil.

“I have been an advocate of climate change legislation, but I’m going to have a real problem if we have drilling as I’ve heard it,” Mr. Menendez said in an interview. “Unless there is the ability for neighboring states to have some type of veto in the process, unless there’s some serious environmental consideration before any drilling takes place, unless there are very significant buffer zones, I’m going to have a hard time at the end of the day supporting this legislation.”

Several other coastal-state senators whose votes could be crucial to passage of climate legislation have expressed concerns about the safety and environmental impacts of offshore drilling. They include Sheldon Whitehouse, Democrat of Rhode Island; Frank R. Lautenberg, Democrat of New Jersey; Benjamin L. Cardin and Barbara A. Mikulski, Democrats of Maryland; Mark Warner, Democrat of Virginia; Kay Hagan, Democrat of North Carolina; and George LeMieux, Republican of Florida.

Last month, President Obama proposed a significant expansion of offshore drilling, including new areas along the Eastern Seaboard from Delaware to Florida, a section of the eastern Gulf of Mexico and parts of the Arctic coast of Alaska.

The proposal was part of a deal to attract Republican support for the climate change bill. The proposal drew strong criticism from environmental groups and some coastal-state governors and representatives.

The White House said Tuesday in a statement that Mr. Obama was sticking with his drilling plan despite the accident. It said that the proposal was based on careful scientific and environmental reviews and that before any drilling was permitted, there would be “a careful examination of the potential risks and spill response capabilities in the area involved.”

But the administration also sought to contain the environmental and political damage with an announcement that the Departments of Interior and Homeland Security would conduct a broad investigation of the accident and the response to it.

The spill has also scrambled politics in Florida, where beaches may be fouled by the growing oil slick oozing from beneath the Deepwater Horizon rig off Louisiana.

Gov. Charlie Crist of Florida, a Republican who is facing a tough campaign for the Senate and has supported expanded drilling off the state’s coastlines, said Tuesday that he was rethinking his position in light of the accident.

“If this doesn’t give somebody pause, there’s something wrong,” Mr. Crist told reporters before heading out on a helicopter to view the spreading slick.

“This is, as I understand it, a pretty new rig with modern technology. As I’ve always said, it would need to be far enough, clean enough and safe enough. I’m not sure this was far enough. I’m pretty sure it was not clean enough. And it doesn’t sound like it was safe enough. It’s not a great situation.”

Senator Bill Nelson, Democrat of Florida, called for a thorough investigation of the industry’s safety practices. Mr. Nelson pressured the Obama administration to extend the coastal buffer zone off Florida to 125 miles from 75. Now he said he was not certain that even that was enough margin for safety.

“The tragedy off the coast of Louisiana shows we need to be asking a lot more tough questions of Big Oil,” Mr. Nelson said. “I think we need to look back over 10 years or so to see if the record denies the industry’s claims about safety and technology.”
Interesting, especially the comment from Crist.
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"Drill, baby, drill" will become "Spill, baby, spill" then "Nil, baby, nil". Energy independence was never going to happen, though it was sly of Obama to sate the Tea Bagger desires to have this dream realised, if only so he could cover himself when prices inevitably rise again. But with the Deepwater Horizon at the bottom and its oil ready to wash on pristine beaches, unless it is quickly capped and the remains burnt in a lovely massive black cloud, maybe the movement is stillborn already.
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Admiral Valdemar wrote:"Drill, baby, drill" will become "Spill, baby, spill" then "Nil, baby, nil". Energy independence was never going to happen, though it was sly of Obama to sate the Tea Bagger desires to have this dream realised, if only so he could cover himself when prices inevitably rise again. But with the Deepwater Horizon at the bottom and its oil ready to wash on pristine beaches, unless it is quickly capped and the remains burnt in a lovely massive black cloud, maybe the movement is stillborn already.
And it very much sounds like it will not be capped quickly. At least 2 weeks to get the collection/containment dome in place and months, perhaps, for the stricken wellhead to be capped.

The burn should have been started by now, but I can't find any updated information.
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As Torrey Canyon showed, its not easy to burn off crude oil. The USCG only wants oil contained by booms and towed away from shore burned as well, least a blazing slick float ashore, so its hard to be optimistic on the chances of burning accomplishing anything. It'd work way better if they were willing to just send out dozens of Harrier sorties to drop thousands of flares onto the slicks. Ideal job for napalm... I'm sure the military is itching for an excuse to mix up a fresh batch.
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Looks like some test burns were started, but I still cannot find any pictures of this.
April 28, 2010
Crews try setting fire to oil leaking in Gulf
By CAIN BURDEAU AND BRETT MARTEL
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It's a hellish scene: Giant sheets of flame racing across the Gulf of Mexico as thick, black smoke billows high into the sky.

This, though, is no Hollywood action movie. It's the real-life plan to be deployed just 20 miles from the Gulf Coast in a last-ditch effort to burn up an oil spill before it could wash ashore and wreak environmental havoc.

Crews late Wednesday afternoon started a test burn to see how the technique was working. Rig operator BP PLC had planned to continue the oil fires after the test, but as night fell, no more were lit. The burns were not expected to be done at night, and the Coast Guard said crews could resume work Thursday morning if the weather cooperated.

Crews planned to use hand-held flares to set fire to sections of the massive spill. Crews turned to the plan after failing to stop a 1,000-barrel-a-day leak at the spot where a deepwater oil platform exploded and sank.

A 500-foot boom was to be used to corral several thousand gallons of the thickest oil on the surface, which will then be towed to a more remote area, set on fire, and allowed to burn for about an hour.

About 42,000 gallons of oil a day are leaking into the Gulf from the blown-out well drilled by the Deepwater Horizon oil rig. Eleven workers are missing and presumed dead. The cause of the explosion has not been determined.

Greg Pollock, head of the oil spill division of the Texas General Land Office, which is providing equipment for crews in the Gulf, said he is not aware of a similar burn ever being done off the U.S. coast. The last time crews with his agency used fire booms to burn oil was a 1995 spill on the San Jacinto River.

"When you can get oil ignited, it is an absolutely effective way of getting rid of a huge percentage of the oil," he said. "I can't overstate how important it is to get the oil off the surface of the water."

The oil has the consistency of thick roofing tar.

When the flames go out, Pollock said, the material that is left resembles a hardened ball of tar that can be removed from the water with nets or skimmers.

"I would say there is little threat to the environment because it won't coat an animal, and because all the volatiles have been consumed if it gets on a shore it can be simply picked up," he said.

Authorities also said they expect minimal impact on sea turtles and marine mammals in the burn area.

A graphic posted by the Coast Guard and the industry task force fighting the slick showed it covering an area about 100 miles long and 45 miles across at its widest point.

"It's premature to say this is catastrophic. I will say this is very serious," said Coast Guard Rear Adm. Mary Landry.

From the air, the thickest parts of the spill resembled rust-colored tentacles of various thickness. The air was thick with the acrid smell of petroleum.

Amid several of the thicker streaks, four gray whales could be seen swimming in the oil. It was not clear if the whales were in danger.

More than two dozen vessels moved about in the heart of the slick pulling oil-sopping booms.

Earlier Wednesday, Louisiana State Wildlife and Fisheries Secretary Robert Barham told lawmakers that federal government projections show a "high probability" oil could reach the Pass a Loutre wildlife area Friday night, Breton Sound on Saturday and the Chandeleur Islands on Sunday.

As the task force worked far offshore, local officials prepared for the worst in case the oil reaches land.

In Plaquemines Parish, a sliver of Louisiana that juts into the Gulf and is home to Pass a Loutre, officials hoped to deploy a fleet of volunteers in fishing boats to spread booms that could block oil from entering inlets.

"We've got oystermen and shrimpers who know this water better than anyone," said Plaquemines Paris President Billy Nungesser. "Hopefully the Coast Guard will embrace the idea."

But there was anxiety that the Gulf Coast was not prepared for the onslaught of oil.

"Our ability to deal with this would be like us having a foot of snow falling in Biloxi tomorrow," said Vincent Creel, a spokesman for the city government in Biloxi, Miss. "We don't have snow plows, and we're not equipped to deal with this."

The parish's emergency manager planned to meet in Houma on Thursday with a Coast Guard official to discuss whether volunteers can help, Nungesser said.

"We don't want to just sit by and hope this (oil) doesn't come ashore," Nungesser said.

The decision to burn some of the oil came after crews operating submersible robots failed to activate a shut-off device that would halt the flow of oil on the sea bottom 5,000 feet below.

BP says work will begin as early as Thursday to drill a relief well to relieve pressure at the blowout site, but that could take months.

Another option is a dome-like device to cover oil rising to the surface and pump it to container vessels, but that will take two weeks to put in place, BP said.

Winds and currents in the Gulf have helped crews in recent days as they try to contain the leak. The immediate threat to sandy beaches in coastal Alabama and Mississippi has eased. But the spill has moved steadily toward the mouth of the Mississippi River and the wetland areas east of the river, home to hundreds of species of wildlife and near some rich oyster grounds.

The cost of the disaster continues to rise and could easily top $1 billion.

Industry officials say replacing the Deepwater Horizon, owned by Transocean Ltd. and operated by BP, would cost up to $700 million. BP has said its costs for containing the spill are running at $6 million a day. The company said it will spend $100 million to drill the relief well. The Coast Guard has not yet reported its expenses.

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Associated Press writers Janet McConnaughey, Michael Kunzelman in New Orleans, Melinda Deslatte in Baton Rouge and Holbrook Mohr in Jackson, Miss., contributed to this report.
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Admiral Valdemar wrote:"Drill, baby, drill" will become "Spill, baby, spill" then "Nil, baby, nil". Energy independence was never going to happen, though it was sly of Obama to sate the Tea Bagger desires to have this dream realised, if only so he could cover himself when prices inevitably rise again. But with the Deepwater Horizon at the bottom and its oil ready to wash on pristine beaches, unless it is quickly capped and the remains burnt in a lovely massive black cloud, maybe the movement is stillborn already.
I'm not sure if you could call the Gulf shoreline "pristine", especially that at the cloaca end of the Mississippi River, but yea, the oil washing ashore will only fuck up the neighborhood.

The news tonight was reporting some test burns, but as I was listening and not watching I'm not sure they showed pictures or not.
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It's worse than they thought

VENICE, La. – A massive oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico that has become far worse than initially thought crept toward the coast Thursday as government officials offered help from the military to prevent a disaster that could destroy fragile marshlands along the shore.

An executive for BP PLC, which operated the oil rig that exploded and sank last week, said on NBC's "Today" that the company would welcome help from the U.S. military.

"We'll take help from anyone," BP Chief Operating Officer Doug Suttles said.

The Coast Guard has urged the company to formally request more resources from the Defense Department.

But time may be running out: Oil from the spill had crept to within 12 miles of the coast, and it could reach shore as soon as Friday. A third leak was discovered, which government officials said is spewing five times as much oil into the water as originally estimated — about 5,000 barrels a day coming from the blown-out well 40 miles offshore.

Suttles had initially disputed the government's estimate, and that the company was unable to handle the operation to contain it.

But early Thursday, he acknowledged on "Today" that the leak may be as bad as the government says. He said there was no way to measure the flow at the seabed and estimates have to come from how much oil makes it to the surface.

If the well cannot be closed, almost 100,000 barrels of oil, or 4.2 million gallons, could spill into the Gulf before crews can drill a relief well to alleviate the pressure. By comparison, the Exxon Valdez, the worst oil spill in U.S. history, leaked 11 million gallons into Alaska's Prince William Sound in 1989.

As dawn broke Thursday in the oil industry hub of Venice, about 75 miles from New Orleans and not far from the mouth of the Mississippi River, crews loaded an orange oil boom aboard a supply boat at Bud's Boat Launch. There, local officials expressed frustration with the pace of the government's response and the communication they were getting from the Coast Guard and BP officials.

"We're not doing everything we can do," said Billy Nungesser, president of Plaquemines Parish, which straddles the Mississippi River at the tip of Louisiana.

"Give us the worst-case scenario. How far inland is this supposed to go?" Nungesser said. He has suggested enlisting the local fishing fleet to spread booms to halt the oil, which threatens some of the nation's most fertile seafood grounds.

Louisiana has opened a special shrimp season along parts of the coast so shrimpers can harvest the profitable white shrimp before the spill has an effect.

Michael Nguyen, 58, was aboard his 82-foot shrimp boat, the Night Star III, waiting for news Thursday morning on what has happening with the slick.

"My boat is ready: New nets, did repairs. I'm ready to go," he said.

He wasn't panicking, but was clearly worried.

"The oil come in everywhere, the shrimp die, the crabs die, the fish die. What do I do? Stay home a long time?"

The spill has moved steadily toward the mouth of the Mississippi River and the wetland areas east of it, home to hundreds of species of wildlife and near some rich oyster grounds.

A federal class-action lawsuit was filed late Wednesday over the oil spill on behalf of two commercial shrimpers from Louisiana, Acy J. Cooper Jr. and Ronnie Louis Anderson.

The suit seeks at least $5 million in compensatory damages plus an unspecified amount of punitive damages against Transocean, BP, Halliburton Energy Services Inc. and Cameron International Corp.

Jim Klick, a lawyer for Cooper and Anderson, said the oil spill already is disrupting the commercial shrimping industry.

"They should be preparing themselves for the upcoming shrimp season," he said. "Now they're very much concerned that the whole shrimp season is out."

Mike Brewer, 40, who lost his oil spill response company in the devastation of Hurricane Katrina nearly five years ago, said the area was accustomed to the occassional minor spill. But he feared the scale of the escaping oil was beyond the capacity of existing resources.

"You're pumping out a massive amount of oil. There is no way to stop it," he said.

The rig Deepwater Horizon sank a week ago after exploding two days earlier. Of its crew of 126, 11 are missing and presumed dead. The rig was owned by Transocean Ltd. and operated by BP. Coast Guard Rear Adm. Mary Landry said BP is responsible for bringing resources to shut off the flow and clean up the spill.

"It has become clear after several unsuccessful attempts to determine the cause" that agencies must supplement what's being done by the company, she said.

A fleet of boats working under an oil industry consortium has been using booms to corral and then skim oil from the surface.

Landry said a controlled test to burn the leaking oil was successful late Wednesday afternoon. BP was to set more fires after the test, but as night fell, there were no more burns. No details have been given about when more were planned were given during the news conference.

The decision to burn some of the oil came after crews operating submersible robots failed to activate a shut-off device that would halt the flow of oil on the sea bottom 5,000 feet below.

Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, was briefed Thursday morning on the issue, said his spokesman, Capt. John Kirby. But Kirby said the Defense Department has received no request for help, nor is it doing any detailed planning for any mission on the oil spill.

President Barack Obama has directed officials to aggressively confront the spill, but the cost of the cleanup will fall on BP, spokesman Nick Shapiro said.

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Associated Press writers Janet McConnaughey, Kevin McGill Michael Kunzelman and Brett Martel in New Orleans, Melinda Deslatte in Baton Rouge and Holbrook Mohr in Jackson, Miss., contributed to this report.
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From the above article:
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Oil, bottom right, is seen approaching the Louisiana Coast, top left, in this aerial photo taken 8 miles from shore, Wednesday, April 28, 2010. The massive oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico is even worse than believed and as the government grows concerned that the rig's operator is ill-equipped to contain it, officials are offering a military response to try to avert a massive environmental disaster along the ecologically fragile U.S. coastline.

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I recall newsreels from years ago with Hawker Hunters firing incendiary rocket salvoes at slicks to burn them off. How effective it was, I don't know, but neither solution will be clean. You either pollute the sky, or pollute the marshlands. Choose your poison.
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Figure I should post this here too:

http://www.wlf.louisiana.gov/news/?id=1794
SPECIAL SHRIMP SEASON OPENS IN ZONE 2 AND PORTION OF ZONE 1

Release Date: 04/29/2010

Today, April 29, at noon, LDWF Secretary Barham will open in Shrimp Management Zone 2 including state outside waters between Freshwater Bayou Canal and the Atchafalaya River Ship Channel and that portion of Zone 1 north of 29 degrees 30 minutes 00 seconds north latitude, with the exclusion of the area south of 29 degrees, 30 minutes (or the mouth of the Mississippi River/Mississippi Delta area). These waters will remain open to shrimp harvesting until further notice.

Unseasonably colder temperatures and wet winter conditions have delayed brown shrimp recruitment and growth in inshore waters; however, samples collected by LDWF Office of Fisheries biologists have indicated the presence of significant numbers of marketable size, over-wintering white shrimp in these waters. In consideration of the potential threat to these resources posed by the proximity of an offshore oil spill, this special season should provide fishermen with added economic opportunity through the harvest and sale of over-wintering white shrimp.

It is important to stress that Louisiana seafood is safe to eat. The state continues to work closely with LDWF field biologists and DHH to ensure all seafood harvested are safe for consumer consumption.

For more information contact Laura Deslatte at ldeslatte@wlf.la.gov or 225-765-2335.

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tl;dr - They're moving to snag as many shrimp as they can before the oil moves in.
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Well according to Rush Limbaugh the timing of the incident along with a call from AL Gore for civil disobedience on Earth Day = Environmentalists sabotaged the rig and caused the spill to stop the move to increase drilling that Obama has announced. I know that ecoterrorists do exist but it seems much more likely that Rush has been upping his medicine lately.
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KrauserKrauser wrote:Well according to Rush Limbaugh the timing of the incident along with a call from AL Gore for civil disobedience on Earth Day = Environmentalists sabotaged the rig and caused the spill to stop the move to increase drilling that Obama has announced. I know that ecoterrorists do exist but it seems much more likely that Rush has been upping his medicine lately.
So to protect the environment from oil drillers they've released an oil slick the size of Rhode Island that is going to threaten hundreds of miles of the most vulnerable ecosystem there is?

Rush really needs to consult his physician about upping his anti-psychotics.
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An update:
Gulf oil spill could reach shore Thursday night

By CAIN BURDEAU, Associated Press Writer Cain Burdeau, Associated Press Writer – 3 mins ago (17:11 EST)

NEW ORLEANS – The edge of a massive oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico was expected to reach the Mississippi River delta by Thursday night and a new technique to break up the oil a mile underwater could be tried, officials said.

As of this morning, part of the slick was about 3 miles from the Louisiana shore, said National Oceanic Atmospheric Administration spokesman Charles Henry said. It's too late to stop some of the spill from reaching the coast, but BP PLC said it might attempt to break up some of the oil spewing from a blown-out a mile under water.

The company also has asked the Department of Defense if it can help with better underwater equipment than is available commercially, said BP PLC chief operating officer Doug Suttles.

In addition, he said the company has been reviewing research on using chemical to break up the oil, which has been done before, but never at these depths. The well is almost a mile underwater off the Louisiana shore.


U.S. Coast Guard Rear Adm. Mary Landry called it "a novel, absolutely novel idea."

Meanwhile, Louisiana Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal declared a state of emergency and announced that BP had agreed to allow local fishermen to assist in the expected cleanup. Under the agreement, shrimpers and fishermen could be contracted by BP to help. Jindal said the state was also training prison inmates to help clean up wildlife harmed by oil slicks moving toward shore.

The federal government sent in skimmers and booms Thursday. BP operated the rig that exploded and sank 50 miles offshore last week, which led to the spill, and is directing the cleanup and trying to stop the leak.

If the chemical technique is approved, work could start tonight, Suttles said.

"We want to pursue every technique we can find," he said.

Coast Guard Rear Adm. Sally Brice-O'Hara said at the White House that the government's priority was to support BP as it fights to hold back the oil surging from the seabed in amounts much higher than previously estimated.

BP was operating the Deepwater Horizon, which was drilling in 5,000 feet of water about 40 miles offshore when it exploded last week. Eleven crew members are missing and presumed dead, and the government says 5,000 barrels of oil a day are spewing from the well underneath it.

Those who count on the Gulf for their livelihoods fretted about the oil that will reach the coast soon.

In Empire, La., Frank and Mitch Jurisich could smell the oil coming from just beyond the murky water where their family has harvested oysters for three generations.

"About 30 minutes ago we started smelling it," Mitch Jurisich said. "That's when you know it's getting close and it hits you right here."

They spent Thursday hauling in enough oysters to fill more than 100 burlap sacks, stopping to eat some because it might be their last chance before oil contaminates them.

President Barack Obama has dispatched Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, Interior Secretary Ken Salazar and Environmental Protection Agency administrator Lisa Jackson to help with the spill. The president said his administration will use "every single available resource at our disposal" to respond.

Obama directed officials to aggressively confront the spill, but the cost of the cleanup will fall on BP, spokesman Nick Shapiro said.

A third leak at the well site was discovered Wednesday, and government officials said the amount coming out is five times as much as originally estimated.

Suttles had initially disputed the government's estimate, and that the company was unable to handle the operation to contain it.

But early Thursday, he acknowledged on "Today" that the leak may be as bad as the government says. He said there was no way to measure the flow at the seabed and estimates have to come from how much oil makes it to the surface.

If the well cannot be closed, almost 100,000 barrels of oil, or 4.2 million gallons, could spill into the Gulf before crews can drill a relief well to alleviate the pressure. By comparison, the Exxon Valdez, the worst oil spill in U.S. history, leaked 11 million gallons into Alaska's Prince William Sound in 1989.

As dawn broke Thursday in the oil industry hub of Venice, about 75 miles from New Orleans and not far from the mouth of the Mississippi River, crews loaded an orange oil boom aboard a supply boat at Bud's Boat Launch. There, local officials expressed frustration with the pace of the government's response and the communication they were getting from the Coast Guard and BP officials.

"We're not doing everything we can do," said Billy Nungesser, president of Plaquemines Parish, which straddles the Mississippi River at the tip of Louisiana.

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Associated Press writers Janet McConnaughey, Kevin McGill Michael Kunzelman and Brett Martel in New Orleans, Melinda Deslatte in Baton Rouge and Holbrook Mohr in Empire contributed to this report.
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eion wrote:So to protect the environment from oil drillers they've released an oil slick the size of Rhode Island that is going to threaten hundreds of miles of the most vulnerable ecosystem there is?

Rush really needs to consult his physician about upping his anti-psychotics.
More likely he's thinking that the oil spill is an unintended consequence of sabotaging the rig.

Not sure how they'd pull that off, but this is Limbaugh we're talking about...
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KrauserKrauser wrote:Well according to Rush Limbaugh the timing of the incident along with a call from AL Gore for civil disobedience on Earth Day = Environmentalists sabotaged the rig and caused the spill to stop the move to increase drilling that Obama has announced. I know that ecoterrorists do exist but it seems much more likely that Rush has been upping his medicine lately.
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The Spartan wrote:More likely he's thinking that the oil spill is an unintended consequence of sabotaging the rig.

Not sure how they'd pull that off, but this is Limbaugh we're talking about...
Like I said, anti-psychotics, big ones. Suppositories if possible.

So just how damaging will this oil slick be once it hits land?

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Basically, all the worst parts of the Bible.

The weather patterns are potentially making it hit land far sooner than predicted even yesterday. Also, it's nearly a month till hurricane season, so you know. A hard one, it may be. And a direct hit on the GOM this year could be disastrous.
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BP's equipment blew up, killed some people, caused an environmental mess - yes, absolutely they should get the bill for the clean up and any other costs associated with this.
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So to protect the environment from oil drillers they've released an oil slick the size of Rhode Island that is going to threaten hundreds of miles of the most vulnerable ecosystem there is?

Rush really needs to consult his physician about upping his anti-psychotics.
And you should really open a book or two some day. Ever heard of a false flag operation?
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And you should really open a book or two some day. Ever heard of a false flag operation?
Do you think this may be a black op? If so, to what ends? I don't rule such things out, but in this instance, I don't see it benefiting the US at all. Unless you mean it was a third party attack to cause such harm, for whatever purpose.
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I mean, I could see it as a very distant possibility. We have recently passed legislation that could allow for a large expansion of off shore drilling. One of the arguments that was used to get the measure passed was the positive safety record that the industry was able to reference.

This incident basically takes that card away from them for a very long time.

I'm not saying there is any validity to it, but I could see how a deranged bunch of people could justify it.
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So to protect the environment from oil drillers they've released an oil slick the size of Rhode Island that is going to threaten hundreds of miles of the most vulnerable ecosystem there is?

Rush really needs to consult his physician about upping his anti-psychotics.
And you should really open a book or two some day. Ever heard of a false flag operation?
Yes, I have. But this amounts to anti-government extremists protecting their children from being brainwashed by government agents by shooting the youngest with police issued weapons.

It’s idiocy on the scale of the truthers to believe that an anti-drilling group would cause a disaster like this to sway political opinion against drilling. If the plan was to jam the drilling equipment, and it went horribly wrong, that might be one thing, but that’s absolutely no evidence of that. They've got plenty of incidents of oil spills destroying ecosystems and killing wildlife, they don't really need to manufacture one and end up with oil on their hands.
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eion wrote: Yes, I have. But this amounts to anti-government extremists protecting their children from being brainwashed by government agents by shooting the youngest with police issued weapons.

It’s idiocy on the scale of the truthers to believe that an anti-drilling group would cause a disaster like this to sway political opinion against drilling. If the plan was to jam the drilling equipment, and it went horribly wrong, that might be one thing, but that’s absolutely no evidence of that. They've got plenty of incidents of oil spills destroying ecosystems and killing wildlife, they don't really need to manufacture one and end up with oil on their hands.
While I don’t actually believe this was anything to do with terrorism, it entirely could be. The whole gulf region is a well acknowledged glaring vulnerability of America. Given that we are speaking of terrorists whose ideas normally involve burning down car dealerships and putting nails in trees, logic is not high on the priorities list. In this instance we also have the close proximity in time to Obama of all people announcing expanding offshore drilling and you’ve got a strong motive.
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I will say, the timing of this couldn't be worse. Mere weeks after Obama plans to open prime estate to drilling, and this happens. It's almost poetic.
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Sea Skimmer wrote: While I don’t actually believe this was anything to do with terrorism, it entirely could be. The whole gulf region is a well acknowledged glaring vulnerability of America. Given that we are speaking of terrorists whose ideas normally involve burning down car dealerships and putting nails in trees, logic is not high on the priorities list. In this instance we also have the close proximity in time to Obama of all people announcing expanding offshore drilling and you’ve got a strong motive.
I never thought you were actually suggesting that the explosion was caused by ecoterrorists, and the ecoterrorist groups have done some pretty stupid and crazy stuff, and tree-spiking is a dangerous and potentially deadly practice unless you take steps to properly warn loggers that the trees have been spiked, and even then it is still analogous to a signed minefield, but is there any history of ecoterrorists directly trying to kill people? Any group (even one like Earthfirst! that practices arson) had to know that a fire on an oil platform would likely kill many, if not all, of the workers there. Had an Eco-terror group actually caused this, you'd think they would have taken credit for it, if they are as irrational as you claim.

Now if we're talking about terrorists groups out to actually kill as many people as possible, rather than cripple commercial operations, than that is a more likely scenario, but only slightly.

Slick is 3 miles off shore at this time, btw.
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