Western Troops in Red Square
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Western Troops in Red Square
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British, Americans, French and Poles. I must say that the russians had a good idea here, even if it would have been nice if the Canadians were there as well.
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Re: Western Troops in Red Square
It's a very wonderful and effusing gesture made by the Russians, maybe unprecedented and, together with the Poland thing, shows that they seem to be making moves to open up to the rest of the world - which is something really nice and beautiful of Russia. That's good for Medvedev, and who knows what Putin thinks of this. ![Razz :P](./images/smilies/icon_razz.gif)
I wonder if STAS BUSH has any words on this. Stas?![Wink ;)](./images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
Man, even Germans and Eye-talians are in on this. I wonder how the German military helped the Allies end WW2.![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
Sucks that of all the nations there, only Angela Merkel was the only leader/figure of note who bothered to pay a visit. I guess Hillery Clinton was too traumatized after seeing the letters KGB in Putin's eyes to ever visit Germania again. And why does Russia hate Prince Charles?![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
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I wonder if STAS BUSH has any words on this. Stas?
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Man, even Germans and Eye-talians are in on this. I wonder how the German military helped the Allies end WW2.
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Sucks that of all the nations there, only Angela Merkel was the only leader/figure of note who bothered to pay a visit. I guess Hillery Clinton was too traumatized after seeing the letters KGB in Putin's eyes to ever visit Germania again. And why does Russia hate Prince Charles?
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This is actually really cool! Big thanks to Russia for letting the others join in the fun. ![Razz :P](./images/smilies/icon_razz.gif)
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It makes me so sad that America doesn't hold military parades as well.
I mean how hard could it be to hold one on April 9th (Surrender of the Northern Army of Virginia), May 8th (V-E Day), July 4th (Obvious), and August 15th (V-P Day)? That covers just about all our most important conflicts.
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I mean how hard could it be to hold one on April 9th (Surrender of the Northern Army of Virginia), May 8th (V-E Day), July 4th (Obvious), and August 15th (V-P Day)? That covers just about all our most important conflicts.
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Is it me or are the Russians in the middle of a charm offensive the last couple of weeks?
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Heh, aside from our two huge fights Germany and Russia have something of a love affair. After all, we closely influenced each other over our history. Read up on Catherine II or wonder why Russian field marshals had so many German names...Shroom Man 777 wrote: Man, even Germans and Eye-talians are in on this. I wonder how the German military helped the Allies end WW2.
Heck, the German Army even played Prussia's Glory and paraded at the Kremlin not so far ago....
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Re: Western Troops in Red Square
Yeah, I do have something to say - it's a nice gesture, surely. Some people are more worth of marching there than others (Polish and CIS folks especially), but anyhow, pretty cool.
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Re: Western Troops in Red Square
Parades such as these remind me why my country's pathetic parades and attempts at silly symbolism (not least repetition) are not worth a damn about.
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Don't forget that Putin told Joe Biden to not come. Seems that Sheriff Joe's support of Georgia and the tie muncher has blowback.
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Yeah, people who supported the tie muncher were not welcome. Hu Jintao took the seat with Medvedev and Merkel with Putin. The Sino-Russo-German alliance has been forgedMKSheppard wrote:Don't forget that Putin told Joe Biden to not come. Seems that Sheriff Joe's support of Georgia and the tie muncher has blowback.
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Cue Sarkozy and Kaczynski screaming in 3...2...1.....Stas Bush wrote:Yeah, people who supported the tie muncher were not welcome. Hu Jintao took the seat with Medvedev and Merkel with Putin. The Sino-Russo-German alliance has been forgedMKSheppard wrote:Don't forget that Putin told Joe Biden to not come. Seems that Sheriff Joe's support of Georgia and the tie muncher has blowback.
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I think if I were a Russian I'd be opposed to this. I mean the USSR won like 4/5 of the fucking land war.
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God, thinking about that, I love that. Georgia acts like a fuck and gets its shit ruined by the Soviet Union, the Amerikaners are having a bitch fit while the Europeans seem pretty cool about it with Sarko being all so suave and smooth operatin'. And now we've got the Presidents of China and Germany hanging out with the Russkies like everything's totally cool. Man, Russia. You guys are so smooth, like wiping your ass with silk smooth! ![Cool 8)](./images/smilies/icon_cool.gif)
(I mean, shit, the USA's diplomatic douches and Condie Rice and all being relegated to the sidelines while the EU guys did everything by themselves - while the US stood in the sidelines for once, unable to do anything while their ally's craps were ruined - was great! Haha, America!
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Why did Putin tell Prince Charles to fuck off though?
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(I mean, shit, the USA's diplomatic douches and Condie Rice and all being relegated to the sidelines while the EU guys did everything by themselves - while the US stood in the sidelines for once, unable to do anything while their ally's craps were ruined - was great! Haha, America!
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Russia and the British had a little tiff about Russian agents killing people in Britain.
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There were 11,000 troops in the parade. 1 company of Americans (250ish?) and a company of Welsh (250~). Thats 1/22 of the entire thing.Flagg wrote:I think if I were a Russian I'd be opposed to this. I mean the USSR won like 4/5 of the fucking land war.
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See! So the rest of the non-Russian guys basically amounted to... winning 1/5 of the fucking land war! It adds up! ![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
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I would like to point out I overestimated the British group but forgot to add in the Poles and the French delegations, the math should be a high ballpark at least through.
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German and Italian troops didn't march, anyhow. Their politicians were merely invited to the holiday which marks the defeat of their preceding fascist governments.
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Master of Cards wrote:There were 11,000 troops in the parade. 1 company of Americans (250ish?) and a company of Welsh (250~). Thats 1/22 of the entire thing.Flagg wrote:I think if I were a Russian I'd be opposed to this. I mean the USSR won like 4/5 of the fucking land war.
Shroom Man 777 wrote:See! So the rest of the non-Russian guys basically amounted to... winning 1/5 of the fucking land war! It adds up!
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Um... um... oh no, Thanas, look! Your Reichstag is on fire! *points and runs away while Thanas is distracted*
Seriously I think Russians would be pleasantly surprised to see an unexpected bunch of Englanders and Amerikaners and Peruvians marching all of a sudden, amidst all those Topols and whatevers. Like, after years of seeing all the same stagnant Russian military hardware which're probably the same ones they paraded around since Khrushchev was around, it might be a welcomed change. I mean, look at those Redcoats! Look at those HATS! Woah! Next time, the Brits should bring Scottish troopers in with skirts and bagpipes! Man, the Russians will love it! Da, comrades!![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
Seriously I think Russians would be pleasantly surprised to see an unexpected bunch of Englanders and Amerikaners and Peruvians marching all of a sudden, amidst all those Topols and whatevers. Like, after years of seeing all the same stagnant Russian military hardware which're probably the same ones they paraded around since Khrushchev was around, it might be a welcomed change. I mean, look at those Redcoats! Look at those HATS! Woah! Next time, the Brits should bring Scottish troopers in with skirts and bagpipes! Man, the Russians will love it! Da, comrades!
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I'm pretty sure those are SU-100s, based on the appearance and size and the fact those were kept in reserve units for decades, straight into the 1990s, so there would be plenty to preserve in full working condition, whereas the SU-85 is comparatively rare.
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If we had such a parade here I would be happy to see Russian troops participating in that as well.Stas Bush wrote:Yeah, I do have something to say - it's a nice gesture, surely. Some people are more worth of marching there than others (Polish and CIS folks especially), but anyhow, pretty cool.
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That would seriously be badass. Not just for the obvious reasons, but also for the wailing and gnashing of teeth from conservatives at having Russian soldiers marching down a street in America.Uraniun235 wrote:If we had such a parade here I would be happy to see Russian troops participating in that as well.Stas Bush wrote:Yeah, I do have something to say - it's a nice gesture, surely. Some people are more worth of marching there than others (Polish and CIS folks especially), but anyhow, pretty cool.
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Correct, that's Su-100.The Duchess of Zeon wrote:I'm pretty sure those are SU-100s, based on the appearance and size and the fact those were kept in reserve units for decades, straight into the 1990s, so there would be plenty to preserve in full working condition, whereas the SU-85 is comparatively rare.
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