Gates to cut bureaucracy in DoD.

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Re: Gates to cut bureaucracy in DoD.

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Want to cut the civilian overhead to save cash? Fire all the janitors, clerks, cafeteria staff etc and assign all the low ranking slobs a "secondary duty." Coincidently, morale will be at an all time low.

You could also save cash by amalgamating certain trades. Each branch need not maintain it's own medical service, let folks keep their uniform (Army, Marine, Navy etc) and make then postable anywhere. Same with the MP's. Worked for several European militaries and Canada.
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That might be related to the way the ADF uses civilian staff; I understand if you're skilled (a nurse, etc) you can 'join up' and be uniformed and work on base, but not 'really' be a soldier, but be paid by the ADF directly and gain the ADF benefits.
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Yeah give them a rank so that folks can't refuse their orders and let them work within the system but never deploy.
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Stark wrote:That might be related to the way the ADF uses civilian staff; I understand if you're skilled (a nurse, etc) you can 'join up' and be uniformed and work on base, but not 'really' be a soldier, but be paid by the ADF directly and gain the ADF benefits.
That sounds pretty sweet. So no deployment overseas? Or is that just. No combat zones (leaving them free to do humanitarian stuff).
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No idea. You can certainly join the army with a qualification and instantly become 'nurse rank' and stay away from combat on deployments if you want. It's pretty lucrative if you've got the skills they want.
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Strak, that is very useful information and interesting. Since, as a nurse who wants to leave his country to earn dineros in a posh faraway land with lots of money, that kind of thing is actually more relevant to me than XYZ-graph of ABC-military thinggy-ma-jig. Now I might become one of these civilian military employees who Shep despises and I might actually be in one of those graphs of his in the future!
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Shroom Man 777 wrote:Now I might become one of these civilian military employees who Shep despises and I might actually be in one of those graphs of his in the future!
Um....There are as of 2009; the following CIVILIAN MILITARY EMPLOYEES:

Department of the Army: 261,687 <--- WE HAVE NUERSES AT WALTER REED!
Department of the Navy: 191,840
Department of the Air Force: 162,338

Plus we have 23,906 US Army CORPS OF ENGINEERS BUILDING LEVEES THAT FAIL.

The big problem is in the Defense Department's "OTHER DEFENSE ORGANIZATIONS" 102,473 employees, who don't work for the Army, Navy or Air Force; and instead work for the Secretary of Defense directly.

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NURSE (CLINICAL / MED-SURG) 
Department: Department Of The Army 
Agency: Army Medical Command 
Organization: Walter Reed Army Medical Center, Department of Nursing, Washington, DC
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