Star Wars After Legacy

[General Mung Beans]

How do you think the Star Wars Legacy series will end and how the Star Wars Galaxy will go on afterward?

Personally I'd say the Galactic Alliance and the Fel Empire defeat the Sith Empire and the Sith destroyed (for now). The Fel Empire probably becomes the dominant Galactic power though and the Imperial Knights end up becoming the primary body of Force users.

[Darksider]

I certainly hope not. Having another Empire regain permanent power and the Jedi Order being sidelined kinda destroys the point of the whole OT, which was to have the oppressive Empire be destroyed and the Jedi order Resurrected.

I'd like to see the Galaxy finally be at peace, protected by the Jedi, and ruled by a democracy.

Of course then the hacks couldn't keep milking the fucking cash cow

[Ritterin Sophia]

I certainly hope not. Having another Empire regain permanent power and the Jedi Order being sidelined kinda destroys the point of the whole OT, which was to have the oppressive Empire be destroyed and the Jedi order Resurrected.

What point did the OT have? I could've sworn not letting yourself become the monsters you fight against was the point and both trilogies together was that the path to Hell is paved with good intentions. It certainly isn't 'Rar Democracy Uber Alles' since George Lucas himself idolizes a benevolent dictatorship.

[Gramzamber]

Besides even if the restoration of the Republic was the point of the OT, the EU pissed all over it a long time ago with a bloody civil war continuing after the movies, a corrupt and incompetent New Republic and so on.

[Srelex]

Besides even if the restoration of the Republic was the point of the OT, the EU pissed all over it a long time ago with a bloody civil war continuing after the movies, a corrupt and incompetent New Republic and so on.

Well, let's face it, the war continuing after Endor does make more sense than the Empire evaporating just because the Emperor and a battlestation went down the toilet, no?

[adam_grif]

The EU has no problems resurrecting wankatine a thousand times over, thus undoing the final act of RotJ. I don't think there's any guiding principle that EU writers are following that prevents them trampling all over the movies.

[Ritterin Sophia]

The EU has no problems resurrecting wankatine a thousand times over, thus undoing the final act of RotJ. I don't think there's any guiding principle that EU writers are following that prevents them trampling all over the movies.

You mean one fucking time, right? Palpatine was only shown to have actually been ressurected once and that was when it was revealed he had the clones. But continue whinging about how it tramples over the most important part of RotJ, it's not like Lucas feels it's true since he went handing out free copies of Dark Empire as Christmas presents.

[Bellosh101]

The EU has no problems resurrecting wankatine a thousand times over, thus undoing the final act of RotJ.

However, it also fits well with Palpatine's talk in ROTS about learning how to cheat death. Frankly, ROTJ and DE fit better if one takes the opinion that ROTJ's final act was not about killing the Emperor and restoring balance to the Force per say, but rather to willingly sacrifice one's own life to save your son. Just because the Emperor lived to fight another day doesn't erase the important fact that Luke wouldn't have if Anakin didn't step in.

Speaking of DE, I have a question: if Luke and Leia severed Palpatine's connection to the Force over the Pinnacle Moon, doesn't that technically mean he has no way of using the Force to keep his spirit intact after his out-of-control Force storm consumed him?

[Stofsk]

The EU has no problems resurrecting wankatine a thousand times over, thus undoing the final act of RotJ. I don't think there's any guiding principle that EU writers are following that prevents them trampling all over the movies.

You mean one fucking time, right? Palpatine was only shown to have actually been ressurected once and that was when it was revealed he had the clones. But continue whinging about how it tramples over the most important part of RotJ, it's not like Lucas feels it's true since he went handing out free copies of Dark Empire as Christmas presents.

Well... really twice. First in Dark Empire, then again in Dark Empire 2.

[Enigma]

What about a reboot post-ROTJ? Just start over with a fresh perspective?

[Bellosh101]

Infindel!!! Glove of Darth Vader MUST remain canon at all costs!!!!! LONG LIVE WARU!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Seriously, there are fanboys out there who want GODV and Waru to remain canon because keeping 100% continuity is more important than telling a good story.

[Shroom Man 777]

I say after Legacy, Palpatine returns for a third time! And this time, third time's the charm! Like after all this Empire, Sith, Fel, Alliance stuff, maybe some bad guys from somewhere can start a war by making a big army of robots or something - and then the third clone of Palpatine can come in and rule the entire galaxy! Then, I don't know, we'd have a touching tale about a glourious hero whose love is turned into corruption, and how he becomes enslaved to the dark side, with his only hope at redemption lying in the children he never knew he had! Then these childrens can have their own great story, of growing up and leaving their small planet homes and entering a bigger galaxy, where there is a civil war, and where they must triumph over world-shattering evils! And bring harmony to the Forces!

[Havok]

What about a reboot post-ROTJ? Just start over with a fresh perspective?

Now you are talkin'!

Well, let's face it, the war continuing after Endor does make more sense than the Empire evaporating just because the Emperor and a battlestation went down the toilet, no?

No. Despite the absolute over analyzing of the franchise, the basic truths you take from the movie is that Empire=Bad and Rebellion=Good. The galaxy wants their freedom back and without the Emperor and the Death Star, they can have it. After ROTJ, the Empire is no more, plain and simple.

[Darksider]

No. Despite the absolute over analyzing of the franchise, the basic truths you take from the movie is that Empire=Bad and Rebellion=Good. The galaxy wants their freedom back and without the Emperor and the Death Star, they can have it. After ROTJ, the Empire is no more, plain and simple.

I can see how the "official" empire would fall apart post-endor, somewhat like it did in the existing EU, but there's got to be plenty of oppressive dicks with ambitions of galactic domination and plenty of ex-imperial personnel and equipment for our heroes to kick the shit out of. I'd like to see any re-boot have the Rebellion/New Republic focus on knocking over a bunch of tin-pot ex-imperial dictators in the immediate post-endor environment (sort of like the Wraith Squadron books where Zsinj was the primary antagonist) rather than there being a centralized, organized empire that continues to fight them until seventeen years after the battle of Endor.

[Gramzamber]

Besides even if the restoration of the Republic was the point of the OT, the EU pissed all over it a long time ago with a bloody civil war continuing after the movies, a corrupt and incompetent New Republic and so on.

Well, let's face it, the war continuing after Endor does make more sense than the Empire evaporating just because the Emperor and a battlestation went down the toilet, no?

Perhaps, but then Star Wars was never a gritty tale of realistic warfare.
You never see the Rebellion commit what to the civilians of the Empire would be terrorist acts for instance, and a guerilla army would probably have to resort to such tactics to damage Imperial infrastructure.
Besides it's not so much that the war continues, it's that the Rebellion/New Republic constantly mess up things so badly. And that's not even getting into the new Imperial resurgence of the week, the constant super-weapons being pulled out of someone's ass and of course Wankatine and the god damn Vong.

[General Mung Beans]

I certainly hope not. Having another Empire regain permanent power and the Jedi Order being sidelined kinda destroys the point of the whole OT, which was to have the oppressive Empire be destroyed and the Jedi order Resurrected.

I'd like to see the Galaxy finally be at peace, protected by the Jedi, and ruled by a democracy.

Of course then the hacks couldn't keep milking the fucking cash cow

The Fel Empire in Legacy is not a Sith-dominated one as in the Original Trilogy. It's a pretty decent and orderly place which does not discriminate against aliens or commit war crimes or whatnot.

[General Mung Beans]

Perhaps, but then Star Wars was never a gritty tale of realistic warfare.
You never see the Rebellion commit what to the civilians of the Empire would be terrorist acts for instance, and a guerilla army would probably have to resort to such tactics to damage Imperial infrastructure.

Depends, did the Second Death Star blowing up at Endor really as is scientifically logical destroy the ecosystem?

[adam_grif]

Word of God is that there was no Endor Holocaust, but that's just rebel propaganda!

[Shroom Man 777]

No it was a visually symbolic explosion that represented, not only a giant fireball for our heroes to dramatically run away from in their spaceships ala Independence Day, but also the total defeat of the brutal regime of the Empire and the vanquishing of evil and all manner of tyranny and villainy that the military wanker shits wank to, and symbolizes also the victory of the forces of good and their triumph and the sheer massiveness of the blast is representative of all the effort, struggle, emotionality and strength of wills required to finally slay the Empire and its Emperor. Scientifically logical ecosystems have nothing to do with it at alls.

[darthscott]

I hope the Fel Empire comes out victorious, but I am sure it will be the Galactic Alliance. Big Empire fan, but I would also take something like the the Old Republic again, as in a loose alliance where the planets are their own sovereign powers who are usually ruled by some sort of nobility.

To me its more than enough to hear about democracy all the time in real life, so I like to stick to the nobility, the military, or a theocracy when it comes to sci-fi fantasy.

[Darth Yan]

lucas admitted that he knew the endor holocaust would happen in real life, but he changed it for the sake of happy ending.

[Srelex]

lucas admitted that he knew the endor holocaust would happen in real life, but he changed it for the sake of happy ending.

Where? Lucas has pretty much been open about not bothering too much with the scientific aspects of Star Wars, which is a given considering its nature as a fantasy in space.

[General Mung Beans]

Where? Lucas has pretty much been open about not bothering too much with the scientific aspects of Star Wars, which is a given considering its nature as a fantasy in space.

For a space fantasy than the "fantasy" part is rather minimal in many areas-Curtis Saxton and others seem to want to lead Star Wars into a more "scientific" direction.

[adam_grif]

Where? Lucas has pretty much been open about not bothering too much with the scientific aspects of Star Wars, which is a given considering its nature as a fantasy in space.

For a space fantasy than the "fantasy" part is rather minimal in many areas-Curtis Saxton and others seem to want to lead Star Wars into a more "scientific" direction.

It's too late to shut the gate when the horse has already bolted. The main canonical entries in the series are pure science fantasy, and no amount of EU retconning can make it more "scientific", unless they revealed that all prior SW entries were actually just fictional shows in the SWverse.

[Battlehymn Republic]

Infindel!!! Glove of Darth Vader MUST remain canon at all costs!!!!! LONG LIVE WARU!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Seriously, there are fanboys out there who want GODV and Waru to remain canon because keeping 100% continuity is more important than telling a good story.

Eh, Abel G. Peña is absolutely excellent at taking the dumber parts of the EU and fitting them into canon.

I hope the Fel Empire comes out victorious, but I am sure it will be the Galactic Alliance. Big Empire fan, but I would also take something like the the Old Republic again, as in a loose alliance where the planets are their own sovereign powers who are usually ruled by some sort of nobility.

To me its more than enough to hear about democracy all the time in real life, so I like to stick to the nobility, the military, or a theocracy when it comes to sci-fi fantasy.

Maybe the Star Wars universe will finally invent constitutional monarchy.