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Missouri takes a dump on adult entertainment

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Missouri lawmakers crack down on porn industry
By STEVE KRASKE
The Kansas City Star

JEFFERSON CITY | Sen. Matt Bartle’s eight-year quest to crack down on strip clubs and adult bookstores finally succeeded Thursday night.

The Missouri Senate voted 27-4 to ban full nudity and prohibit adult businesses from selling alcohol. The clubs also would have to close between midnight and 6 a.m.

“Most human beings understand that if you mix alcohol and women dancing in the nude, that’s a tough combo,” said Bartle, a Lee’s Summit Republican. “Bad things happen.”

The vote, combined with the House’s 118-28 vote earlier Thursday, sends the bill to Gov. Jay Nixon. A spokesman for the Democratic governor said he was inclined to sign it.

Opponents said that the law will hurt all strip clubs and that hundreds, maybe thousands, of workers will lose their jobs. They said some clubs, including one or more of the 13 in Kansas City, could close — even as the state is seeking to create jobs in a recession-racked economy.

“What we do here has consequences,” said Sen. Jolie Justus, a Kansas City Democrat who opposed the bill.

But proponents of the measure didn’t buy that argument.

The adult entertainment industry “has become an embarrassment,” said Rep. Ed Emery, a Lamar Republican. “I’ve talked to more Missourians who have used that word. I hear people say, ‘I’m driving down the highway and I see these things (billboards) and what do I tell my kids?’ ”

Bartle’s battle to close the clubs began when he arrived in the Senate in 2003.

His cause took an unexpected turn this year when a federal grand jury launched an investigation that examined how some House leaders, including the then speaker, Rod Jetton, handled the bill in 2005. No one has been indicted.

Under the proposal, the adult entertainment industry would undergo major changes.

“Juice bars” that don’t sell alcohol, but present nude dancers, would be outlawed. Semi-nude dancers would have to stay at least 6 feet from patrons, and no touching would be allowed.

“All that lap dancing stuff, that’s gone,” Bartle said.

Adult businesses could not operate within 1,000 feet of a school, church, day-care facility, library, park, residence or another adult business. Operators would have to have an “unobstructed view … of every area of the premises.”

The House added a provision, which the Senate accepted, aimed at eliminating mud wrestling when at least one participant is semi-nude.

Dick Bryant, an attorney for the adult entertainment industry, said a legal challenge was a certainty.

“In the next 30 days, we’ll be in a courthouse talking to a judge about this,” he said.

The bill passed on the second to last day of the session, It was Bartle’s last shot because he is retiring from the Senate.

Bartle said that when he first introduced the bill eight years ago, he thought he would succeed. He said he introduced the bill at the request of constituents.

For years, adult businesses had operated largely in out-of-the-way locations, he said. But by the late 1990s, that changed.

“They began to just proliferate and became far more aggressive in advertising,” Bartle said in an interview Thursday.

He recalled one large sign not far from Kansas City International Airport.

“It was like, ‘Welcome to Kansas City,’ ” Bartle said. “It was so on the edge, in your face.”

In 2005, Bartle’s bill easily passed the Senate, but it died in the House after it was sent to an unfriendly committee.

Four days before the bill was assigned to that committee, strip club owners gave $35,000 in campaign contributions to a fundraising committee with ties to a top Jetton adviser.

After his grand jury testimony in February, Bartle said the donation was directly tied to undermining the legislation.

“The receipt of that money looks horrible,” Bartle told reporters that day. “And I think there is a link between that money and my bill dying.”

In 2006, a story about the donations first appeared in The Kansas City Star. From then on, Bartle said, infuriated House leaders worked to block Bartle-authored bills.

“I didn’t pass one single bill for four years,” Bartle said.

Just two days after Bartle testified for 50 minutes before the grand jury, he presented his adult entertainment bill on the Senate floor. It won quick approval. Bartle said its prospects had improved given the intense focus on the adult entertainment industry by federal prosecutors.

But the bill’s pace slowed in the House before it returned to the Senate, where Thursday night, opponents opted not to filibuster the bill. Still, Justus rose to oppose it.

“What I’m saying is, ‘Let’s let our cities and counties regulate themselves,’ ” Justus said.

In response to questions from Justus, Bartle said all of the bill’s key provisions have been tested in court.

“This is a reasonable, rational step,” he said. It “reflects where our people are, both Republican and Democratic.”

Other action
Missouri lawmakers on Thursday passed legislation that would:

•Give the state an extra incentive to make sure tax refunds are paid in a timely way. The bill requires the state to pay interest on personal income tax refunds that aren’t made within 90 days of the April 15 filing deadline. That’s down from 120 days under existing law. Missouri was among states that delayed paying tax refunds last year.

•Crack down on drunken driving by imposing higher penalties for drivers with a blood alcohol content at or above 0.15 percent — nearly double the legal limit of 0.08 percent.

To help keep repeat offenders of the road, the bill expands requirements for law enforcement agencies and prosecutors to report drunken-driving cases to a state database. Other provisions allow courts to create special dockets for cases in which offenders complete court-supervised treatment programs and require repeat offenders to be tried in circuit court rather than city court.

•Ban synthetic marijuana, bringing Missouri even with Kansas in barring purchase and possession of the fake marijuana known as “K2.”
Gotta love my home state of Missouri!

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You know, I've lived in California my whole life, and I've never been to an adult entertainment club. I wonder what I'm missing...
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CaptainChewbacca wrote:You know, I've lived in California my whole life, and I've never been to an adult entertainment club. I wonder what I'm missing...
Not much. Strip clubs are pretty boring if they don't offer a happy ending. Though that doesn't make Missouri's new law any less retarded.
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Isn't this just big government muscling in on private business?
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neoolong wrote:Isn't this just big government muscling in on private business?
Very much so. But these asshole conservatives have never had a problem with doublethink before; why should they now?
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The comment, “Most human beings understand that if you mix alcohol and women dancing in the nude, that’s a tough combo,-” is a bit puzzling. I mean normal bars/clubs have beer and skanky woman dancing, but strip clubs have a piece of standard issue equipment that most small bars don't: Huge. Fucking. Bouncers.

I'd like to see bar violence/ arrest stats of strip clubs vs. bars. I'd bet that violent offenses are considerably lower.
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well who knows they may like jazz music and miscenation...
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CaptainChewbacca wrote:You know, I've lived in California my whole life, and I've never been to an adult entertainment club. I wonder what I'm missing...

Not a lot. They can get pretty boring pretty quickly.

Stripclubs are almost perfectly designed to separate men from their money. Drunk + horny = give money away more easily. Either to the dancers or the waitresses as you buy more and more drinks. In the two places I've been you weren't supposed to touch the dancers so really the whole set up is just a way to tease yourself while giving your money away.

I don't know where you live in California but the only strip club I've been to in that state is Pacers in San Diego. At the time I went I think they had two clubs in the city. It was a pretty clean and decent looking place that sold membership cards, otherwise there was a cover fee. The dancers also never got more than topless, although their outfits gave the illusion of more even though everything from the waist down was covered. IIRC, shortly after I was there the dancers were out on strike and it made the national news. They were unionized, but then what group in California isn't?

I've also been in a skanky strip club in Florida where a drunk stripper fell off of the stage on top of me. That place was verging on nasty. It was by the interstate and had been made from converting an old gas station.

The other difference between the California club and the one in Florida is that I could actually believe the "Stripper Myth" in San Diego. The "Stripper Myth" being: "I'm stripping to pay my way through college".
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Unless the strip clubs let you touch the girl it really pointless imo. I know there are some spots here in Jersey that depending on stripper and the stripper's mood they will have sex with you or give you a bj in the booth for some cash (I met one girl in school that did this). Most spots are pretty lame though since here in jersey, girls are not allowed to be fully nude if alcohol is served (bikini dancers).
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General Zod wrote:
CaptainChewbacca wrote:You know, I've lived in California my whole life, and I've never been to an adult entertainment club. I wonder what I'm missing...
Not much. Strip clubs are pretty boring if they don't offer a happy ending. Though that doesn't make Missouri's new law any less retarded.
I'll second that. Never saw the appeal unless, like in Nevada, the girl is also a prostitute and its actually going to lead somewhere.
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“I’ve talked to more Missourians who have used that word. I hear people say, ‘I’m driving down the highway and I see these things (billboards) and what do I tell my kids?’ ”
Ah, think of the children. Can't we just claim that paying for sex is what seperates us from the Godless communists (who don't believe in money)?
The House added a provision, which the Senate accepted, aimed at eliminating mud wrestling when at least one participant is semi-nude.
Why do they even care about this? Is wrestingly only okay when it is sweaty men with well toned bodies glistening... I'll stop before I very into gay porn.
“It was like, ‘Welcome to Kansas City,’ ” Bartle said. “It was so on the edge, in your face.”
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Whelp, looks like East Saint Louis is about to pick up even business. I remember back when I lived in St. Louis (The Missouri side of the mississippi, not the DMZ IL side), in order to find a titty bar that had actual nudity you had to drive across the river, brave the crackhead hoods and hit Sauget to get to the full nude clubs (and some of the racier dance clubs were out there too). In and around St. Louis/St. Charles the best you could find were gogo dancer type bars where the girls wore pasties and a lapdance was pretty much off the menu anyway.

So honestly, not seeing how this bill is actually changing anything. The Midwest is populated by prudes, fundies, and other subhuman retards, this is news worthy for why again?
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I'm just wondering how this will affect the greater Saint Roberts area (also known as the place with all the bars just outside Fort Leonard Wood). When I was re-classing to Heavy Equipment about the only thing you could do was go to one of the two strip clubs in town (there was also one pool hall and once dance club). Since it was hands on and fully nude (though BYOB/ buy it at the liquor store right outside 10ft away) it was about the only entertainment worth having for most of us. Only NCOs and permanent personnel could go out past town limits and since I was one of only two Cpls in the training course I only ever spent 1 weekend in Springfield. Anyway making it close at midnight is probably gonna halve their business and really put a dent in the cashflow coming out of the base.
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This is just more evidence that whenever the Republicans say they are anti-big-government, they are full of shit. Whatever area of society the Democrats to not want to expand government into, the Republicans are more than happy to.
The House added a provision, which the Senate accepted, aimed at eliminating mud wrestling when at least one participant is semi-nude.
I wonder how they define "semi-nude." That word can mean anything from being topless to just wearing an extremely skimpy shirt. Also, why the hell do the legislators care if adults consensually mud-wrestle in a private building? It's not like they are doing it in broad daylight in the middle of a traffic circle. And is mud-wrestling in strip clubs really that common or Sen Bartle, et al., just have overactive imaginations?
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Is it just mud wrestling? What about Jello or KY Jelly?

Is mud wrestling even still a big thing? Was it ever?
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SecondToDie wrote:This is just more evidence that whenever the Republicans say they are anti-big-government, they are full of shit. Whatever area of society the Democrats to not want to expand government into, the Republicans are more than happy to.
Oh, do they claim that? For all I know is the cons say they want to reduce "federal" government. This of course means requiring to scale up local government per state (x50) plus a bureaucratic overhead on interstate affairs. Unfortunately that hint is much too subtle to grasp.
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