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Wow, let's hope the Tories in the UK don't take the cutting back of public services to such crimininally insane extremes. This sort of decay in civil infrastructure seen in Colorado Springs is a perfect storm for rioting and revolt, with the place perhaps going the way of Detroit. :shock:

'I'm not forking over a single dime to those homosexualist, Commie governmentals!' (as a lorry plunges into a huge crater in a pothole filled road in the background). What in the fuck is going on inside their heads?!
Colorado Springs cuts into services considered basic by many
By Michael Booth


COLORADO SPRINGS — This tax-averse city is about to learn what it looks and feels like when budget cuts slash services most Americans consider part of the urban fabric.

More than a third of the streetlights in Colorado Springs will go dark Monday. The police helicopters are for sale on the Internet. The city is dumping firefighting jobs, a vice team, burglary investigators, beat cops — dozens of police and fire positions will go unfilled.

The parks department removed trash cans last week, replacing them with signs urging users to pack out their own litter.

Neighbors are encouraged to bring their own lawn mowers to local green spaces, because parks workers will mow them only once every two weeks. If that.

Water cutbacks mean most parks will be dead, brown turf by July; the flower and fertilizer budget is zero.

City recreation centers, indoor and outdoor pools, and a handful of museums will close for good March 31 unless they find private funding to stay open. Buses no longer run on evenings and weekends. The city won't pay for any street paving, relying instead on a regional authority that can meet only about 10 percent of the need.

"I guess we're going to find out what the tolerance level is for people," said businessman Chuck Fowler, who is helping lead a private task force brainstorming for city budget fixes. "It's a new day."

Some residents are less sanguine, arguing that cuts to bus services, drug enforcement and treatment and job development are attacks on basic needs for the working class.

"How are people supposed to live? We're not a 'Mayberry R.F.D.' anymore," said Addy Hansen, a criminal justice student who has spoken out about safety cuts. "We're the second-largest city, and growing, in Colorado. We're in trouble. We're in big trouble."

Mayor flinches at revenue

Colorado Springs' woes are more visceral versions of local and state cuts across the nation. Denver has cut salaries and human services workers, trimmed library hours and raised fees; Aurora shuttered four libraries; the state budget has seen round after round of wholesale cuts in education and personnel.

The deep recession bit into Colorado Springs sales-tax collections, while pension and health care costs for city employees continued to soar. Sales-tax updates have become a regular exercise in flinching for Mayor Lionel Rivera.

"Every month I open it up, and I look for a plus in front of the numbers instead of a minus," he said. The 2010 sales-tax forecast is almost $22 million less than 2007.

Voters in November said an emphatic no to a tripling of property tax that would have restored $27.6 million to the city's $212 million general fund budget. Fowler and many other residents say voters don't trust city government to wisely spend a general tax increase and don't believe the current cuts are the only way to balance a budget.

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But the 2010 spending choices are complete, and local residents and businesses are preparing for a slew of changes:

• The steep parks and recreation cuts mean a radical reshifting of resources from more than 100 neighborhood parks to a few popular regional parks. The city cut watering drastically in 2009 but "got lucky" with weekly summer rains, said parks maintenance manager Kurt Schroeder.

With even more watering cuts, "if we repeat the weather of 2008, we're at risk of losing every bit of turf we have in our neighborhood parks," Schroeder said. Six city greenhouses are shut down. The city spent $19.6 million on parks in 2007; this year it will spend $3.1 million.

"If a playground burns down, I can't replace it," Schroeder said. Park fans' only hope is the possibility of a new ballot tax pledged to recreation spending that might win over skeptical voters.

• Community center and pool closures have parents worried about day-care costs, idle teenagers and shut-in grandparents with nowhere to go.

Hillside Community Center, on the southeastern edge of downtown Colorado Springs in a low- to moderate-income neighborhood, is scrambling to find private partners to stay open. Moms such as Kirsten Williams doubt they can replace Hillside's dedicated staff and preschool rates of $200 for six-week sessions.

"It's affordable, the program is phenomenal, and the staff all grew up here," Williams said. "You can't re-create that kind of magic."

Shutting down youth services is shortsighted, she argues. "You're going to pay now, or you're going to pay later. There's trouble if kids don't have things to do."

• Though officials and citizens put public safety above all in the budget, police and firefighting still lost more than $5.5 million this year. Positions that will go empty range from a domestic violence specialist to a deputy chief to juvenile offender officers. Fire squad 108 loses three firefighters. Putting the helicopters up for sale and eliminating the officers and a mechanic banked $877,000.

• Tourism outlets have attacked budget choices that hit them precisely as they're struggling to draw choosy visitors to the West.

The city cut three economic-development positions, land-use planning, long-range strategic planning and zoning and neighborhood inspectors. It also repossessed a large portion of a dedicated lodgers and car rental tax rather than transfer it to the visitors' bureau.

"It's going to hurt. If they don't at least market Colorado Springs, it doesn't get the people here," said Nancy Stovall, owner of Pine Creek Art Gallery on the tourism strip of Old Colorado City. Other states, such as New Mexico and Wyoming, will continue to market, and tourism losses will further erode city sales-tax revenue, merchants say.

• Turning out the lights, literally, is one of the high-profile trims aggravating some residents. The city-run Colorado Springs Utilities will shut down 8,000 to 10,000 of more than 24,000 streetlights, to save $1.2 million in energy and bulb replacement.

Hansen, the criminal-justice student, grows especially exasperated when recalling a scary incident a few years ago as she waited for a bus. She said a carload of drunken men approached her until the police helicopter that had been trailing them turned a spotlight on the men and chased them off. Now the helicopter is gone, and the streetlight she was waiting under is threatened as well.

"I don't know a person in this city who doesn't think that's just the stupidest thing on the planet," Hansen said. "Colorado Springs leaders put patches on problems and hope that will handle it."

Employee pay criticized

Community business leaders have jumped into the budget debate, some questioning city spending on what they see as "Ferrari"-level benefits for employees and high salaries in middle management. Broadmoor luxury resort chief executive Steve Bartolin wrote an open letter asking why the city spends $89,000 per employee, when his enterprise has a similar number of workers and spends only $24,000 on each.

Businessman Fowler, saying he is now speaking for the task force Bartolin supports, said the city should study the Broadmoor's use of seasonal employees and realistic manager pay.

"I don't know if people are convinced that the water needed to be turned off in the parks, or the trash cans need to come out, or the lights need to go off," Fowler said. "I think we'll have a big turnover in City Council a year from April. Until we get a new group in there, people aren't really going to believe much of anything."

Mayor and council are part-time jobs in Colorado Springs, points out Mayor Rivera, that pay $6,250 a year ($250 extra for the mayor). "We have jobs, we pay taxes, we use services, just like they do," Rivera said, acknowledging there is a "level of distrust" of public officials at many levels.

Rivera said he welcomes help from Bartolin, the private task force and any other source volunteering to rethink government. He is slightly encouraged, for now, that his monthly sales-tax reports are just ahead of budget predictions.

Officials across the city know their phone lines will light up as parks go brown, trash gathers in the weeds, and streets and alleys go dark.

"There's a lot of anger, a lot of frustration about how governments spend their money," Rivera said. "It's not unique to Colorado Springs."
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It has already been posted here back in February. :)
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Indeed it has been posted... but its nice to see things have CONTINUED to go down the shitter, that so far no one in charge has the balls to actually raise taxes to get revenue for the city. Seriously this is a prime example of the Republican mantra taken to its logical extreme.

Cut cut cut cut... And never raise taxes. Eventually there is nothing left to cut, and you still don't have money.. The city collapses and you get.. Colorado Springs.
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Crossroads Inc. wrote:Indeed it has been posted... but its nice to see things have CONTINUED to go down the shitter, that so far no one in charge has the balls to actually raise taxes to get revenue for the city. Seriously this is a prime example of the Republican mantra taken to its logical extreme.
Not exactly, this is literally the exact same article posted in February.
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The real problem is that the people who voted against the tax increases live in lily-white isolated exurbs and edge cities. They are not going to feel the effects of the cuts to services compared to people in the urban cores.

The irony here is that Colorado Springs' economy is very dependent on the USAF Academy. So for all the "MY TAX DOLLARS" and being against government spending, Colorado Springs wouldn't be the city that it is without it.

The people in Colorado Springs are going to feel the pinch of this, but the people in exurbs like Monument are barely going to notice it, and continue the same mantra of More Growth, More Services, and Less Taxes.
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Dominus Atheos wrote:
Crossroads Inc. wrote:Indeed it has been posted... but its nice to see things have CONTINUED to go down the shitter, that so far no one in charge has the balls to actually raise taxes to get revenue for the city. Seriously this is a prime example of the Republican mantra taken to its logical extreme.
Not exactly, this is literally the exact same article posted in February.
Oops. :oops:

Anyway what Instant Sunrise said about the wealthier, whiter upper middle to upper class suburbs being unaffected by the inner city areas getting run into the ground by the severe cost cuts sounds similar to what happened to Detroit, which is still a burnt out shell (as bad as anything in the ex-Soviet Union) but the satellite towns and suburbs are fine.

And a lot Californian companies are relocating to Colorado Springs, demonstrating what heartless, feckless tax dodgers they are:
Why Calif. firms move to Colorado Springs

An average of 15 to 20 companies move from other states to Colorado Springs every year and 30% are from Southern California, said Dave White, executive vice president of marketing for the Colorado Springs Regional Economic Development Corp.

Approximately 60 Southern California companies are currently looking at Colorado Springs for a possible relocation, he added.

A couple of the most recent California catches are Billet Racing Products that moved from Laguna Niguel in September, and Corinthian Colleges in Santa Ana that just opened an enrollment center in Colorado Springs that will employ 600.

I called White because my recent update of California companies leaving the Golden State included half a dozen that landed in Colorado Springs. Commenters demanded to know why, and rightly so.

It was a softball question that White teed it up and crushed it.

“Every state in America is focusing on California,” he said. “It’s low hanging fruit” for those assigned to develop their local economies and add jobs.
Remember, he promotes Colorado Springs for a living but, he’s a Southern California transplant and professes to love California and Disneyland. But business is business.

Here are some of his favorite selling points for California firms to move to Colorado Springs :

•California’s top income tax is 10.55%; Colorado’s is 4.63%
•California’s top corporate income tax is 8.84%; Colorado’s is 4.63% based only on sales within Colorado
•Colorado’s worker’s compensation insurance costs 25% what California businesses pay
•Colorado Spring Utilities’ electricity rate is 4.5 cents per kilowatt hour; Southern California Edison’s is 10 cents
•Colorado Spring’s property tax rate is 0.4% to 0.5% of real value depending on location; Orange County’s is 1% (or more for Mello Roos fees, for example)
“My wife and I laugh that the only thing cheaper in California is the citrus,” White said.

Colorado Springs comes looking for companies to lure away from the beaches and sun and Disneyland, he admitted.

“We do have a campaign. We think Colorado Springs is a good match for companies seeking to relocate. We can’t compete with southern states that throw millions of dollars in incentives and tax breaks at big projects. Our sweet spot is small to mid-sized companies where the owner moves with the company. They’re driven as much by lifestyle as by incentives.”

And the city is getting ready for another California campaign, but White wouldn’t disclose details. (Nevada is preparing another campaign too, but that’s another story.)

Unlike Virginia and Texas, which have been running television commercials in Southern California, and Nevada, which regularly runs newspaper ads and billboards, Colorado Springs tends to send direct mail to company owners.

“They did fly a plane over Los Angeles on Valentine’s Day pulling a banner that said ‘Colorado Loves LA,’ but that was Metro Denver and the state, not us,” White said.

Colorado does offer incentives to relocating companies, but they don’t receive them until they create new jobs, White said. For example:

•The state and city may give as much as $5,000 per job plus tax credits.
•The city might rebate the property tax up to $800 per job.
•The legislature just passed an additional $2,500 per job credit against the corporate income tax.
“We also have asked private entities to provide incentives,” he added. “A country club might waive the membership fee, or the health clubs might give six months free membership. We have a pass to various tourist sights. We don’t have the beaches but we do have Pikes Peak.”

And when business executives come to check out the town, the governor, mayor and civic and business leaders show up to greet them, White added.

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Maybe they can be the first city to try this plan. I would actually like to see that, just to get these extreme libertarian ideas properly discredited.
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Instant Sunrise wrote:The real problem is that the people who voted against the tax increases live in lily-white isolated exurbs and edge cities. They are not going to feel the effects of the cuts to services compared to people in the urban cores.

The irony here is that Colorado Springs' economy is very dependent on the USAF Academy. So for all the "MY TAX DOLLARS" and being against government spending, Colorado Springs wouldn't be the city that it is without it.

The people in Colorado Springs are going to feel the pinch of this, but the people in exurbs like Monument are barely going to notice it, and continue the same mantra of More Growth, More Services, and Less Taxes.
But wouldn't the people in the urban core outnumber the ones from the exurbs and such? Or couldn't they be arsed to actually vote?
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Korvan wrote:
Instant Sunrise wrote:The real problem is that the people who voted against the tax increases live in lily-white isolated exurbs and edge cities. They are not going to feel the effects of the cuts to services compared to people in the urban cores.

The irony here is that Colorado Springs' economy is very dependent on the USAF Academy. So for all the "MY TAX DOLLARS" and being against government spending, Colorado Springs wouldn't be the city that it is without it.

The people in Colorado Springs are going to feel the pinch of this, but the people in exurbs like Monument are barely going to notice it, and continue the same mantra of More Growth, More Services, and Less Taxes.
But wouldn't the people in the urban core outnumber the ones from the exurbs and such? Or couldn't they be arsed to actually vote?
The working poor are too busy trying not to starve to vote, since Americans like to schedule their elections on working days, during working hours. So the only ones who can afford to go vote are the ones who have the leisure time to do so. That is, old retirees and anti-tax exurbanites.
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GrandMasterTerwynn wrote: The working poor are too busy trying not to starve to vote, since Americans like to schedule their elections on working days, during working hours. So the only ones who can afford to go vote are the ones who have the leisure time to do so. That is, old retirees and anti-tax exurbanites.
Wait, seriously? The elections are on work days? Like, in the middle of the week?

That's just....i guess stupid is certainly appropriate.
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Most states have laws that say that if you can't reasonably go to work and vote, you can take paid take off time go and vote.
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Serafina wrote:
GrandMasterTerwynn wrote: The working poor are too busy trying not to starve to vote, since Americans like to schedule their elections on working days, during working hours. So the only ones who can afford to go vote are the ones who have the leisure time to do so. That is, old retirees and anti-tax exurbanites.
Wait, seriously? The elections are on work days? Like, in the middle of the week?

That's just....i guess stupid is certainly appropriate.
They're almost always on Tuesdays. The most convenient day of the week!

Alphawolf55 wrote:Most states have laws that say that if you can't reasonably go to work and vote, you can take paid take off time go and vote.
And how many poor people have recourse to taking their employer to court about it should the employer refuse to pay them or otherwise dick them around?
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Akhlut wrote:
Serafina wrote:
GrandMasterTerwynn wrote: The working poor are too busy trying not to starve to vote, since Americans like to schedule their elections on working days, during working hours. So the only ones who can afford to go vote are the ones who have the leisure time to do so. That is, old retirees and anti-tax exurbanites.
Wait, seriously? The elections are on work days? Like, in the middle of the week?

That's just....i guess stupid is certainly appropriate.
They're almost always on Tuesdays. The most convenient day of the week!

Alphawolf55 wrote:Most states have laws that say that if you can't reasonably go to work and vote, you can take paid take off time go and vote.
And how many poor people have recourse to taking their employer to court about it should the employer refuse to pay them or otherwise dick them around?
Or they could get a mail-in ballot to vote, which is vastly more convenient than having to go to the polls in person.
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Britain's recent General Election took place on Thursday and many voters back from work could not put a vote in due to the evening queus (so were locked out by 10pm), but we can vote through the mail (but it can be open to abuse).
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Serafina wrote:
GrandMasterTerwynn wrote: The working poor are too busy trying not to starve to vote, since Americans like to schedule their elections on working days, during working hours. So the only ones who can afford to go vote are the ones who have the leisure time to do so. That is, old retirees and anti-tax exurbanites.
Wait, seriously? The elections are on work days? Like, in the middle of the week?

That's just....i guess stupid is certainly appropriate.
You are thinking like a functionalist. If the aim is to prevent people from voting, it works great!
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Big Orange wrote:Britain's recent General Election took place on Thursday and many voters back from work could not put a vote in due to the evening queus (so were locked out by 10pm), but we can vote through the mail (but it can be open to abuse).

Here in Fairfax County you can start doing "early voting" like, a month before election day. On weekends.

(I guess a little scantron machine in the city hall would be too expensive for most of these URBAN BLIGHTS :lol: )
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How can anyone think they can enjoy, you know, essential services like firefighter, roads and stuff, without having to pay for it? The sheer absurdity of the situation is mind-boggling. Is this the typical American way of thinking?
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Grif wrote:How can anyone think they can enjoy, you know, essential services like firefighter, roads and stuff, without having to pay for it? The sheer absurdity of the situation is mind-boggling. Is this the typical American way of thinking?
The assumption they usually make is that the government can trim the excess fat (eg. pork/wasteful spending) rather than the essential services so they believe the money is already there and it just need to be used properly. This would also assume there were revenue that could cover the necessary spending in the first place which doesn't sound too likely with Colorado Springs.
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Grif wrote:How can anyone think they can enjoy, you know, essential services like firefighter, roads and stuff, without having to pay for it? The sheer absurdity of the situation is mind-boggling. Is this the typical American way of thinking?
One of the issues isn't the service but the cost of providing it. The cost for firefighters and police in many large cities has increased drastically, both due to wages but especially the pension costs and other benefits due to generous union contracts. Some cities can no longer fund their pension plans. Also, cutting back police assigned to drug duty actually makes sense. The entire "War on Drugs" in the US resembles a game of whack a mole. Better to legalize and regulate it, generating tax revenue, reducing the flow of illegal funds to criminals, avoiding turning stupid teenagers/twenty-somethings into felons (meaning close to zip chance of a decent job), diverting prison money to drug rehab (still will save money), and either firing or freeing up cops from pointless drug arrests to handle more important crimes.
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If the U.S. had decent social services for all, health care, social security, etc., etc., there'd be no need for individual businesses, industries, or government to bear the particular cost of individually generous pension and union benefit schemes.
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Grif wrote:How can anyone think they can enjoy, you know, essential services like firefighter, roads and stuff, without having to pay for it? The sheer absurdity of the situation is mind-boggling. Is this the typical American way of thinking?
One of the issues isn't the service but the cost of providing it. The cost for firefighters and police in many large cities has increased drastically, both due to wages but especially the pension costs and other benefits due to generous union contracts. Some cities can no longer fund their pension plans. Also, cutting back police assigned to drug duty actually makes sense. The entire "War on Drugs" in the US resembles a game of whack a mole. Better to legalize and regulate it, generating tax revenue, reducing the flow of illegal funds to criminals, avoiding turning stupid teenagers/twenty-somethings into felons (meaning close to zip chance of a decent job), diverting prison money to drug rehab (still will save money), and either firing or freeing up cops from pointless drug arrests to handle more important crimes.
This is the problem. You can cut enough waste to free up large swaths of the budget, but most voters don't consider it waste, and in fact these things would be political suicide to try and fix. You try to freeze pensions and move to a 456 self-funded system and the unions will spend tens or hundreds of millions blanketing the airwaves and conjuring up images of the hard-working, honest American chained to a dangerous machine in a soot-covered factory where the manager smokes a big stogie and wears a top hat. Try to adopt a sane policy on drugs and prisons and the values voters will have your ass out on the street before you can say "recall". All of the special interests and lesser politicians will dogpile you if you try to reform campaign finance or eliminate gerrymandering (the practice of carefully drawing district lines so that an incumbent gets the majority vote). But when the average moron voter talks about "cutting waste", they think that large parts of a state's budget go to embezzlement, yacht parties with blow, and high class hookers, and you can easily cut it without digging into any essential services or sacred cows. Part of this is the fault of various politicians who have used financial engineering to borrow against the future without appearing to spend anything, and voters have become used to hearing that they can have things without having to pay for them through the magic of subspace polarity reversers. The problem is that by the time the country as a whole has their Colorado Springs moment and realizes there ain't no free lunch, the education system will have been so starved for so long that we will have produced multiple generations that simply cannot compete with the global up and comers.
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And a lot Californian companies are relocating to Colorado Springs, demonstrating what heartless, feckless tax dodgers they are:
Living in Los Angeles I am of course worried at the number of California companies leaving the state, but really, "heartless, feckless tax dodgers?"

Are you suggesting that a given company should compare California and Colorado, and decide well, we'd do much better if we relocated to a state with lower operating costs but hey, out of the goodness of our hearts we'll undercut the growth and success of our own company by staying in California?

I sure don't like it, but I don't see how it's a moral failure on the part of a business person to relocate their business to a place where - legally in every way - their business can operate under more favorable conditions.
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Serafina wrote:
GrandMasterTerwynn wrote: The working poor are too busy trying not to starve to vote, since Americans like to schedule their elections on working days, during working hours. So the only ones who can afford to go vote are the ones who have the leisure time to do so. That is, old retirees and anti-tax exurbanites.
Wait, seriously? The elections are on work days? Like, in the middle of the week?

That's just....i guess stupid is certainly appropriate.
I always vote after work. The polls are open until 9pm, I believe. I'm not sure exactly what the hours are, but I've never had a problem voting. You'd have to have a job with insanely long hours to be prevented from voting, and even if you did, NY is one of the states Alphawolf55 mentioned, and I believe the time mandated by law is 2 hours off.
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Lonestar wrote:

Here in Fairfax County you can start doing "early voting" like, a month before election day. On weekends.

(I guess a little scantron machine in the city hall would be too expensive for most of these URBAN BLIGHTS :lol: )
Theres a similar system here at the Provincial and Federal level, I almost always vote at the advance polls, which are on different days in each town. So if I miss the one here I can drive 20 minutes down the highway and vote at theres. Sometimes there on weekends but usually during the day or evening of a weekday.
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Grif wrote:How can anyone think they can enjoy, you know, essential services like firefighter, roads and stuff, without having to pay for it? The sheer absurdity of the situation is mind-boggling. Is this the typical American way of thinking?
...not really. Colorado Springs is one of the densest concentrations of fanatical anti-tax government haters in the country. There are other places like it where this could happen, but this is no more "typically American" than anything else that only about a quarter of the population would support is.

And no less typically American. Sigh.
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