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Senate passes financial regulation bill

By Brady Dennis
Friday, May 21, 2010
The Senate approved far-reaching new financial rules on Thursday aimed at preventing the risky behavior and regulatory failures that brought the economy to the brink of collapse two years ago and cost millions of Americans their jobs and savings.

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The final vote, just after 8:30 p.m., was 59 to 39. Four Republicans voted in favor of the bill, and two Democrats opposed it.

"When this bill becomes law, the joy ride on Wall Street will come to a screeching halt," Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) said after the vote.

The 1,500-page measure, shepherded through the Senate by Christopher J. Dodd (D-Conn.), chairman of the banking committee, seeks to reshape both Washington and Wall Street.

In providing for the most profound remaking of financial regulations since the Great Depression, the legislation would create a new consumer-protection watchdog housed at the Federal Reserve to prevent abuse in mortgage, auto and credit card lending. It also would give the government power to wind down large failing financial firms and set up a council of federal overseers to police the financial landscape for risks to the global economy. Moreover, the legislation would establish oversight of the vast market in financial instruments known as derivatives, impose new restrictions on credit rating agencies and give shareholders a say in corporate affairs.

Passage of the measure marks a milestone in President Obama's efforts to tackle the financial abuse and excess that contributed to the crisis and prevent another meltdown.

The vote gives Obama his second major legislative victory of the year, following the March passage of his landmark health-care bill. "Our goal is not to punish the banks," he said in the White House Rose Garden hours before the final vote, "but to protect the larger economy and the American people from the kind of upheavals that we've seen in the past few years."



The bill now appears headed to a House-Senate conference committee, where a handful of lawmakers will work to resolve differences between the two chambers. House Financial Services Chairman Barney Frank (D-Mass.) said he aims to wrap up that task in short order.

"I think the president will sign this bill before the Fourth of July," he said.

Thursday's vote hinged in large part on Democrats' ability to win over key Republicans.

Leaders successfully courted GOP Sens. Olympia J. Snowe and Susan Collins, both of Maine, in part by including in the final bill provisions that each wanted. Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa) also backed the bill. Equally critical was the last-minute push to win over Scott Brown (R), the Senate's newest member.

Brown's vote was secured partly through the help of Frank, his Massachusetts colleague. In an interview, Frank said Brown called him Wednesday evening as Frank was working out on the elliptical machine in the House gym. Brown wanted assurances that Frank would fight in conference to preserve provisions in the House bill that protect large and solvent Massachusetts institutions, such as State Street and Fidelity, from "unnecessary intrusion" by government regulators. Over the next 24 hours, Frank sent Senate leaders two letters stating his position, and Brown indicated that "on that basis, he could vote for cloture," Frank said.
HAZZAH! Once again the GOP dig in their heels as the party of "HELL NO" but this time around the result was much different. their delaying tactics allowed for a bill actually MORE stringent and strict then what was first purposed. Sure like health care it isn't perfect, but its a Start, something we can build upon.

My Favorite part about this is that one of the GOP that voted FOR it was Scott Brown. The "Poster Boy" of the Teaparty, the big success for the radicle right, currently to dat has a fairly Liberal Voting record.

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Is it me or have Obama and the Democrats been emboldened by their healthcare victory? They actually seem to have grown a pair of balls.

What's frustrating is that they could have been like this from the beginning of his term.
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http://market-ticker.org/archives/2338- ... eform.html

The financial reform bill has more holes than a sieve. We're going to trust the Fed, you know, the institution which has already pooped all over the Federal Reserve Act and shown gross negligence in its regulatory duties to implement these new rules and regulations. Yes, let's give the keys to the drunk driver who's already wrecked 10 cars because this time it'll be different and he promises he'll be careful, gee, I wonder how well that's going to work out? Are you kidding me?

If they really wanted to fix things they'd put in the Volcker Rule and reinstate Glass-Steagall in full.
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IIRC, what the Tea Partiers hoped was not that Scott Brown would be the next Sarah Palin but that he'd stop even more radical liberals from winning.

As not a single House Republican voted for the House Financial Bill, are House Republicans more conservative than Senate Republicans or is the House Bill more liberal than the Senate one?
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General Mung Beans wrote:As not a single House Republican voted for the House Financial Bill, are House Republicans more conservative than Senate Republicans or is the House Bill more liberal than the Senate one?
The House bill was even more watered down than the Senate version, for example it does not include the Volcker Rule while the Senate bill has a neutered version of the rule. The House bill was essentially 1400 pages of do nothing fluff.
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What I like is that it's 1,500 pages. The HCR bill was like 2,000 pages. Who knows what's tucked away in these nearly 4,000 pages combined? They're still finding out whats going on with the HC bill -- since it's so big. I can't imagine this bill will be any better.

And really, anything that's spearheaded by Chris Dodd; the guy who bickered while fannie and freddie mae burned; and has a sweetheart kickback deal on his mortage from Countrywide is automatically suspect.
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Does any one know what the bill's official designation is so we can see if the bill is available for viewing on the internet? I am not really sure if I understand the point of giving regulators more power when they where too busy watching porn rather than doing their job. How is given these peole more power going to make them do what we are paying them to do?
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J wrote:http://market-ticker.org/archives/2338- ... eform.html

The financial reform bill has more holes than a sieve. We're going to trust the Fed, you know, the institution which has already pooped all over the Federal Reserve Act and shown gross negligence in its regulatory duties to implement these new rules and regulations. Yes, let's give the keys to the drunk driver who's already wrecked 10 cars because this time it'll be different and he promises he'll be careful, gee, I wonder how well that's going to work out? Are you kidding me?

If they really wanted to fix things they'd put in the Volcker Rule and reinstate Glass-Steagall in full.
Yeah, just like health care, it’s not great, but at least it’s a step in the right direction. The problem is the US has moved so far to the right and immersed itself so much in the corporate libertarian kool aid that it’s nearly impossible to get anything done to change that, and hence fix the problems associated with that. We're literally taking on the most powerful collection of cocksuckers in the world, and most of our politicians that we're looking to for help have been bought and sold by them.

I've added Dylan Ratigan to my list of MSNBC shows I listen to at work the next day, and man has he been busting all sides’ asses over this. Specifically calling out the banks and other corporations, Republicans and Democrats, and anyone else (like Glen Beck) who stands in the way. He has also been doing a daily play by play of the bills progress, and ripping on everything that's deficient, problematic, or being left out. He really needs to be on later, say replace the trivia spouting windsock that is Chris "the golden mean" Matthews.
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J wrote:If they really wanted to fix things they'd put in the Volcker Rule and reinstate Glass-Steagall in full.
Because as Dick Cheney teaches us, it is the will to do things, not having to deal with opposition, well-funded enemies of the goal, or your own resources. It's like the Green Lantern ring: Just have the willpower, and you Win Forever!
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J wrote:If they really wanted to fix things they'd put in the Volcker Rule and reinstate Glass-Steagall in full.
Because as Dick Cheney teaches us, it is the will to do things, not having to deal with opposition, well-funded enemies of the goal, or your own resources. It's like the Green Lantern ring: Just have the willpower, and you Win Forever!
She's just pointing out that if you really believe the Democratic Party is at all even close to an essentially progressive and reformist party, you're naive. They're nearly as deep in collusion with corrupt power.
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J wrote:If they really wanted to fix things they'd put in the Volcker Rule and reinstate Glass-Steagall in full.
Because as Dick Cheney teaches us, it is the will to do things, not having to deal with opposition, well-funded enemies of the goal, or your own resources. It's like the Green Lantern ring: Just have the willpower, and you Win Forever!
She's just pointing out that if you really believe the Democratic Party is at all even close to an essentially progressive and reformist party, you're naive. They're nearly as deep in collusion with corrupt power.
I frankly doubt that's what J's saying, with phrasing like that. If it was, however, this is as big a 'No Duh' as 'Water is wet'.
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Then what's your point about the Democrats not passing the Volcker Rule and reinstating Glass-Steagal? She said "if they really wanted to fix things..." and you replied with something about Cheney and the will to do things not having to deal with realistic constraints of opposition. So I hardly think it controversial to point out that is not really a challenge to the claim that, irregardless of functional limitations, the Democrats don't want to do it.
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Illuminatus Primus wrote:Then what's your point about the Democrats not passing the Volcker Rule and reinstating Glass-Steagal? She said "if they really wanted to fix things..." and you replied with something about Cheney and the will to do things not having to deal with realistic constraints of opposition. So I hardly think it controversial to point out that is not really a challenge to the claim that, irregardless of functional limitations, the Democrats don't want to do it.
Go read what was written, please. J stated 'If they REALLY wanted to they'd do it' as if wanting something made all the problems fall away. That's the idiot thinking of Cheney talking about the will to win the war against A-Q. I deal with what was written, and not what you would like it to mean.
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Illuminatus Primus wrote:Then what's your point about the Democrats not passing the Volcker Rule and reinstating Glass-Steagal? She said "if they really wanted to fix things..." and you replied with something about Cheney and the will to do things not having to deal with realistic constraints of opposition. So I hardly think it controversial to point out that is not really a challenge to the claim that, irregardless of functional limitations, the Democrats don't want to do it.
Go read what was written, please. J stated 'If they REALLY wanted to they'd do it' as if wanting something made all the problems fall away. That's the idiot thinking of Cheney talking about the will to win the war against A-Q. I deal with what was written, and not what you would like it to mean.
No, that statement says what it says (i.e., that the Democrats do not want reform, and I would say, imply thereby that practical GOP/far-right opposition is irrelevant until they are forced to attempt reform). I don't see on what pretext you dig out this secret meaning. In any case whatever J meant, I am saying that it is of little value to talk about the practical obstacles to Democratic progressive reform when there is no desire to sincerely attempt reform on their part. One must produce incentives and political pressure to force the Democrats to support popular reforms before it matters how tactically difficult carrying it out would be.
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I don't see how you can see a literal reading as getting a secret meaning, but whatever. The Senate did add the Volcker Rule.. Unfortunately in an extremely weak way.(Optional for regulators to enforce.) Better than nothing in the House Bill.
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