I think I may have hit on why the Iserlohn and Phezzan corridors are such chokepoints: could it be possible that their FTL system works using the same 'gravity slingshot' effect that real world spacecraft use for accelerating? Like, the energy expenditure to get them to FTL without it would mean they'd run out of fuel or something? This would explain much if they had to slingshot themselves from system to system, and only those two corridors have objects (stars etc.) have enough mass to do so?
edit: Also holy shit, no wonder this is not widely known I just checked the prices for the 1st of 4 box sets of blu-ray discs of the series (2 movies, an ova and 27 episodes of the main series) and it's roughly $560. Yes, it costs as much as my PS3 which it would be watched on
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Japan's prices can be pretty mindblowing. Admittedly they're expensive because they're out of print, but some of the Space Runaway Ideon boxsets go for a thousand dollars or more.
Sephirius wrote:I think I may have hit on why the Iserlohn and Phezzan corridors are such chokepoints: could it be possible that their FTL system works using the same 'gravity slingshot' effect that real world spacecraft use for accelerating? Like, the energy expenditure to get them to FTL without it would mean they'd run out of fuel or something? This would explain much if they had to slingshot themselves from system to system, and only those two corridors have objects (stars etc.) have enough mass to do so?
The only thing we know about their FTL is that it looks like this:
There are vast areas of space within the LotGH universe that cannot be traversed safely via sub-light or at all via FTL due to reasons of plot. The corridors are realms of normal space through which sub-light travel is possible, however limited as ships have actually been destroyed by touching the corridor 'walls'. This area is apparently narrow enough to give Iserlohn and Geiresburg the ability to cordon it off completely via X-Ray Laser Fuck-Off Cannons and internally carried fleets of ships (20k Iserlohn, 15k Geiresburg IIRC)
They can apparently cover distances of 1000 lightyears reliably and safely (from the looks of the size of their territory they would have to) and the words 'null-space' have been thrown around here and there, suggesting some sort of hyperspace-like phenomena.
I would also like to note that both corridors are 'bridges' between the two spiral arms (if the map on page 2 is accurate), suggesting that the lack of stars and gasses exerting some kind of influence on space may have something to do with this 'dangerous space' thing that's going on, lending credence to Sephirius's theory that 'gravity/mass' is required for FTL.
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There are vast areas of space within the LotGH universe that cannot be traversed safely via sub-light or at all via FTL due to reasons of plot. The corridors are realms of normal space through which sub-light travel is possible, however limited as ships have actually been destroyed by touching the corridor 'walls'. This area is apparently narrow enough to give Iserlohn and Geiresburg the ability to cordon it off completely via X-Ray Laser Fuck-Off Cannons and internally carried fleets of ships (20k Iserlohn, 15k Geiresburg IIRC)
They can apparently cover distances of 1000 lightyears reliably and safely (from the looks of the size of their territory they would have to) and the words 'null-space' have been thrown around here and there, suggesting some sort of hyperspace-like phenomena.
I would also like to note that both corridors are 'bridges' between the two spiral arms (if the map on page 2 is accurate), suggesting that the lack of stars and gasses exerting some kind of influence on space may have something to do with this 'dangerous space' thing that's going on, lending credence to Sephirius's theory that 'gravity/mass' is required for FTL.
I've heard of many plot-based restrictions for FTL movements in sci-fi, but the sublight restrictions especially in the type of space that Iserlohn and Geiresburg are positioned just makes no sense at all, since such locations are really stellar deserts between galactic arms. Wouldn't it have made more sense for the author to simply say that sublight movements would be easy to detect and counter instead?
I think the idea is 'where there's matter influencing space, you're safe; where there's nothing (i.e between the spiral arms) you're fucked'
It could be that the corridors represent the absolute lower limit of the gravity effect, were the matter can only effect space enough to create a bridge of traversable space a scant 100-or-so kms wide and the dead-space effect means warping through the area is impossible. Ships must go to sub-light and get to safe space before being able to warp, and Iserlohn is positioned smack dab in the middle of the Empire's side of the corridor.
That's the most sense I can wring out of this, if anyone has any better theories I'm all ears!
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~George Foreman, February 27th 3000 C.E.
Navigational beacons are mentioned by Fahrenheits aide during their retreat to Geiesburg, and deviating from the route is considered hazardous. Fahrenheit takes the risk and since there is no mention of losses it could be presumed that they have other means of navigation also. These beacons could be one reason why they are somewhat restricted to these "space lanes".
It might also have something to do with supply and supply ships being totally reliant on these beacons for navigation, this is just pure speculation on my part.
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I'm personally partial to my own theory that there IS something in the stellar desert between the arms, but you can't see it and it isn't nice. It may not be an omnipresent entity covering the entire gulf, but the whole thing is hazardous enough that only two corridors through it have been scouted out.
It was extremely fitting that the end credits song reverted to that used in Season 1, which is my favorite - the final image of Reinhard looking down at Julian before looking away whilst the music comes to a crescendo is kick ass.
Those last few episodes have been something of a gut-punch for you, haven't they?
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Uraniun235 wrote:Those last few episodes have been something of a gut-punch for you, haven't they?
Oh for sure. I honestly didn't see that coming at all, until the fucking narrator started hinting at it, and then the episode title / teaser for the next episode after the credits confirmed it.
I'm quite pro-Reinhard so I was really pulling for him to win the Battle of the Corridor, and it just kills me that he did win but a: didn't know it and b: didn't follow through anyway.
The deaths of Fahrenheit and Steinmetz were unwelcome as well. I can't believe Merkatz is still alive.
You're watching the episode previews? Yikes, those things are viciously spoileriffic.
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What is Project Zohar? "On a serious note (well not really) I did sometimes jump in and rate nBSG episodes a '5' before the episode even aired or I saw it."- RogueIce explaining that episode ratings on SDN tv show threads are bunk
Uraniun235 wrote:You're watching the episode previews? Yikes, those things are viciously spoileriffic.
Well they were never that ridiculously spoilerrific, but the narrator gave it away anyway in the episode itself, what with the whole "last time Julian and Yang Wen-li would talk all night" spiel.
Uraniun235 wrote:You're watching the episode previews? Yikes, those things are viciously spoileriffic.
Well they were never that ridiculously spoilerrific, but the narrator gave it away anyway in the episode itself, what with the whole "last time Julian and Yang Wen-li would talk all night" spiel.
Didn't the previews give away what happened to Kircheis? I'd call that pretty damn spoilerrific.
Didn't the previews give away what happened to Kircheis? I'd call that pretty damn spoilerrific.
I actually don't recall. I always knew Kircheis would die because he was obviously Hephaestion to Lohengramm's Alexander, and the part where he turns in his gun sealed the deal (right before the guy fires the bazooka).
