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Silly alt-hist/place swap BS [CHAPTER 4 up]

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The original draft concept (horrible quality) can be found spoilerised below. The re-write begins on page 3.
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Waterloo, 1815

The hide was in the attic of the chateau, the firing holes had been knocked in the roof by the Guards Light Regiment the previous day. They knew that as diligent students of history. They knew the date too - 18 June 1815. They'd arrived last night, sometime around midnight - all of them standing around on the ridge behind their current position, looking lost and deeply confused.

The two men there wore camoflage uniforms - but for an environment entirely different to the one they were in, around them lay the tools of their trade - assault rifles, machine guns, an assortment of sights and scopes and other paraphenalia. Stopping short of the loophole was the distinctive muzzle-brake of the .50 calibre Barrett rifle. Beside the man with the rifle was another with a large spotting scope and range-finder. "Officer at 2 o'clock. Range is eight-hundred and seventy five metres. Wind is 10km/h from the south-west."
"Got him. Grey horse, blue coat, white trousers, black bicorne hat with white feather?"
"That's him. He's twenty metres above us."
"Dialled in. On trigger."
"Fire." Nearly nine-hundred metres away the French Colonel collapses forward, then slides off his horse - one foot remaining firmly stuck in the stirrup as the well trained horse stands firm as the sound of the shot rolls across the valley. The men around the Colonel stir uneasily as his body is untangled and dragged away. Somewhere further back in the ranks another man is crying in pain from the .50 calibre round tumbling after punching through the Colonel's chest and cleaved his thigh open and shattered his femur before smacking into the mud behind him.
"Hit. Shift target - spotter, 11 o'clock, range twelve-hundred and fifty metres."
"White hair, telescope, blue jacket looking over the cart?"
"Confirmed. He's thirty metres above us."
"On trigger."
"Fire."


"Unacceptable! I cannot cower here like some deserter! This is treason to hold me here Ney."
"Sir, I am not holding you here because I have ill intentions for you. I am holding you back from showing yourself on the other side of that hill, because we've already lost forty officers this morning. And not to random fire or happenstance! I saw Reille and Soulte fall myself. And now because we Lords and Generals are hiding back here the English are picking off any officer they see."
"Then we must attack now, before all is lost."
"All is not lost Sir, but we cannot act against such an unknown."
"There is no unknown. There are men there Ney. Englishmen, Dutchmen, Belgian, Prussians and a medley of others. Wellington simply hides behind the ridge as he is wont to do. That is not an army that can stand up to us. Signal the attack now. We must act or else France is lost."


Al-Amarah, Iraq, 2006

"Guards, make ready!" The air isthick with dust, smoke and the stench of ruining sewers, rotting flesh and spoiled food. The line of infantry stretches across the square, redcoats with muskets herding the crowd to the far end of the sprawling market. "Advance by ranks!" The first rattle of fire comes from a window at the far end of the square. The civilians still trapped in the massive space begin to scatter as another weapon joins the first in it's fire. "Halt! Front rank kneel! Second rank take place!" The drill is well practiced, the movements impeccable. Even as twelve of their number collapsed, their places were quickly filled. "TAKE AIM! FIRE!" The barrage of lead shot fills the square with smoke and screams as the civilians are caught by the mass of the fire. A RPG dashes across the square from a rooftop and impacts just short of the line of men, throwing shrapnel, dust and gravel into the air.

A gaggle of horsemen trot into the square behind the infantry. They observe the resolutely marching men of the Coldstream Guards as they pour more fire towards the crowd ."Madness. Sheer madness. This cannot be real. It cannot be right!"
"Madness or not De Lancey, we require this towns water. When we have seventy thousand men in the middle of what I can only assume is Arabia, then water is our priority. I will not have my army die of thirst while we debate the metaphysics of our current condition. Now, dispatch the Royal Horse Artillery to that hill in the West - I want them in position and ready to bombard the approach should there be any reinforcements or sign of the French."

The BBC reporter was doing their direct to camera piece in the usual war correspondant attire of flak jacket, helmet and lashings or reflective tape. "We are currently outside Al-Amarah, some one hundred and fifty kilometres North West of Basra where the insurgency has been engaged in open warfare with the British forces once more. Early this morning the Royal Green Jackets who we are embedded with received orders to deploy, as headquarters in Basra had lost contact with the forces stationed here. When we arrived ith we found an enormous force - easily more than fifty-thousand strong who are dressed in the style of the Napoleonic armies. We are aware that this seems utterly ridiculous, but we assure you that what we are reporting right now are the facts as we know them. Attempts to get any comment from local military commanders all the way up the chain to Downing Street have been met by resolute silence. We will provide more information as we become aware of it."


Waterloo, 1815

The first barrage from the French guns found their targets, but there was little they could do. There were no massed ranks for them to destroy. It was hard for them to pick out targets at this distance. Occassionally an officer with a telescope would brave the English riflemen and attempt to locate a target, but their ranks were visibly thinning and even when they did spot something it was usually a solitary figure darting about. The barrage slamming into the hillside where any reasonable General would have arrayed his forces for the honourable fight did little to calm the French ranks. Where were the English?

In a tent on the reverse slope of the English held hill Captain Alan Dahl rummages through the detritus of a historic campaign. "These maps are bloody useless - and of course there's no GPS and we can't nick off down to the services to pick up a Michelin guide. It's old-school right now and this is what we've got to work with. Make sure that the mortar teams have good comms with the OPs and that we've got back-ups in place, I don't want to have to worry if our fucking radios evaporate too. Go. NOW YOU TWAT!" The runner disappeared out of the tent, leaving the Captain with a trio of lieutenants. "What a right fucking mess. Waterloo? At least every single one of us had that drilled into our brains at Sandhurst. It sounds like they're just getting warmed up now. The attack was a feint on the chateau, then a wheel from their right flank, correct?"
"That's right sir. We've got the chateau locked down as tight as we can - we've got two squads there and that SAS team that was bunking with us has also taken up residence there. There's second and fourth platoons with fighting positions along the centre and we've shortened the line and have anchored our other flank at St Haye where we've posted another few squads, along with some of the HMGs."
"So this is what it comes down to? Two companies against the entire French army. Have we gotten any word back from Lt Hayes yet?"
"None since he left for Brussells with the entourage."
"I just hope that he's not written off as a maniac by the Ambassador, though the presence of the Prince of Orange's entourage should help with that. And has there been any joy with finding Bluchy and the Prussians?"
"No sir. Nothing - we aren't sure if it's because we're looking in the wrong place or because they aren't there to find." The next barrage of cannon fire sweeps the hill and the sound of drums and regimental bands fills the air. Capt Dahl keys his radio. "All callsigns, stand-to." He turns to the men with him, "OK, this will be the CP and hospital. We'll do what we can, but there is no casevac here. Get to your units - we have to try and stop the advance short of their range. Pick off officers where you can and stop the cavalry. Let's go."

The French guns were firing regularly now, but the men were bunkered down deep in their foxholes. The fields of fire are as clear as a shooting range, a far cry from the usual dusty back alleys. The sounds of roundshot and shrapnel cease above the heads of the men - but the sound of hooves is clear. A galloping regiment of Curaisser's charges towards the line seeking a weak point or to draw resistance. "Cavalry coming in! 12 o'clock!" Comes the urgent shout from further down the line. The men rise and level their weapons along their firing arcs, all the while hidden from direct fire by the foxholes. Lessons had been long and hard learnt about why the kind of tactic the French were using just didn't fly when automatic weapons were prevalent. Single shots ring out along the line as men pick their targets carefully. The 5.56mm rounds punch straight through the armour of the horsemen or bring down the horses themselves. The methodical firing increases in intensity as the Cavalry come closer. Finally a pair of Minimi's join the firing and the probe by the Curaisser's falls short as they wheel away, leaving half their number on the field. In one foxhole at the front Pvt Hopkins, an 18 year old from Newcastle, shouts a familiar line. It helps him, makes him feel grounded. All along the British line the cry is taken up. Several hundred voices all chanting - he closes his eyes and imagines for a moment that he's just back home watching a game. Not here. Not now...

"How many did you count?", the Emperor is insistant - desperate for information.
"We saw no more than twenty men."
"TWENTY MEN!", the Emperor sputters, "Twenty? Twenty men laid waste to a regiment of Curaisser's in under a minute?"
"Yes sir, they were not firing muskets or cannon - but had some form of rapid firing rifle."
"What are they singing now?" The chants could be heard across the valley - puncuated by an occasional shot, or drowned out by a cannon.
"It is, I believe it literally translates to 'Come forth bone if you believe you are suitably firm', I'm not sure what it actu-"
"I can guess what they mean. Such crudity, obviously there is no discipline in their ranks. No good officers to keep them under control." Napoleon pauses, smiles and then moves to the map and starts looking at his disposition, "A lack of discipline means that we can overwhelm them with numbers. Everyone attacks. Now. Press the attack forward and do not stop until we hold that ridge. If they have so few men, then they cannot stop our grand army."

Dahl peers through binoculars towards the French lines. "It's a full advance. Get the mortars to start dropping phos rounds onto the cavalry formations - break those up. Snipers are free to engage at will - but tell them I want them hunting higher-ups and runners, no point blasting sargents and corporals right now. We've got to break down their command and communication." Dahl breaks into a grin. "And it's time to spend some real money - put a Javelin into those powder carts for the cannon in the grand battery. I don't think we've got to worry about any armour right now."

Napoleon fumed, stifling a disbelieving and angry roar and pacing in rage - his grand battery was not firing any more. The men were in shock - a giant smoking hole sat in the middle of the grand battery. The carnage was immediately visible - pieces of flesh, uniforms, gun carriages and horses lay everywhere. He had watched as the rocket had roared into the sky from the far side of the field, then as it tipped over and dove directly onto one of the powder-laden carts supplying the assembled guns. No officers stepped forth to take control - he himself had seen the last four die as soon as they started to shout and point to try and reorganise. He smirked slightly - the army was still advancing - tens of thousands of men marching across the valley towards the English lines. For all their trickery, they didn't have the numbers to match his army.

"HE. All tubes, one round. Fire!" The crews make their final adjustments and drop the rounds down the barrel. The mortars coughs, driving baseplates deeper into the ground. A distant ripple of explosions from the far side of the ridge signals the impacts. "We're twenty metres short," shouts the Mortar platoons sargeant, "Make correction! WP fuse for airbust. All tubes. Two rounds. Fire for effect." The mortars cough again, sending their rounds arcing high over the field. Thirty metres above the massed ranks of the trotting French cavalry their fuses trigger the detonators, blowing the rounds open and igniting the white phosporous within. Hundreds of brilliant, burning balls of metal fall onto the formation, sticking and scorching. Horses and men alike scream and scatter as the next volley of phosphorous showers down onto them. "Good hits. All tubes, shift target. New target is bearing 164 degrees, range twelve hundred metres. Ready one round HE." Sargeant Doyle couldn't believe the devastation - the huge formation of Lancers had broken and scattered the units around them, horses were out of control, trampling anyone in their path. Muskets and pistols fired to kill the panicked horses, then they began sounding as the horrifically burnt men requested mercy. "Fuck me," he mutters quietly, "We might actually be able to win this."

"Sir," the dispatch runner arrived at the tent breathless and bloodied. His uniform is discoloured and torn under the arm where a sniper's bullet has grazed his ribs. "The 1st and 3rd cavalry corps have been broken. Kellerman and Pajol are both dead. The enemy remains u. Our infantry is still closing."
"Thank you," Napoleon sighs and rubs his eyes, "This cannot go on much longer - once the infantry are engaged they won't have the will to fight. Take the Hougoumont now, we cannot have a strongpoint at our flank once the battle is met."

"Infantry coming out of the woods," one of the sentry shouts, "They're going for the orchard!"
"Stand by for claymores." The plan had been drilled into them. The first wave of enemy would be on the receiving end of the outer ring of claymore mines at the edge of the orchard which lay before the chateau. The next line of the precious mines was much closer - literally at the front wall of the chateau. There would be a lot of ground for the French to cover in the meantime.
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Oh god. I love it! Although I think it would sound better for the reporter to say "unbelievable" instead of "ridiculous".
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2 companies against the entire French army?

I thought you were giving the Brits a challenge. Keep up the good work.
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Night_stalker wrote:2 companies against the entire French army?

I thought you were giving the Brits a challenge. Keep up the good work.
I would say that is quite a challenge. Without artillery support, and with only a couple of companies' ready ammo things could get a bit sticky, although the modern troops obviously have the advantage.

The various requests to keep going are heartily seconded - this has the potential to be absolutely magnificent. :D
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After reading The Salvation War, I can tell you that this is not silly, this is wonderfulness... I have imaginary Manly Tears right now. But a typo, "The enemy remains u," and "When we arrived ith we found an enormous force"

This sounds like it will be quite the challenge, especially if the transporteds-from-2006 intend to make their stand at the Hougoumont ridge, and I have several questions about them, spoilered for viewing convenience: Spoiler
1. I hope that the two Guards companies and the (unspecified-size) SAS team haven't suffered any casualties to date?
2. Where is the captain's senior NCO to advise him along with the three lieutenants?
3. Is there a plan for defense in depth beyond simply having multiple lines of claymores, i.e. several defense perimeters? (Not that the enemy was able to crack the seemingly first/only perimeter... for now.)
4. Did they first "appear" on the enemy consciousness (as distinct from the regular Brits) in the form of forty French officers being shot dead, or by some previous action?
5. What exactly happened with Lt. Hayes? I'd like to see you pick up with that thread from the Prince of Orange's entourage's POV, and I'm guessing that you mean the nearest British ambassador (who it seems may or may not be the Prince of Orange himself).
6. If they don't have any other form of fire support beyond manportable launchers (i.e. mortars and the Javelin) then what kind of support do they have? i.e. vehicles, supply/refueling for said vehicles, or at least supplies, rations, batteries, other equipment, even body armor, to allow them to continue the fight, or at least to remain as an force, past this one day? (Come to think of it, I have no idea what time of day it is on 18 June.)
About the transported-to-Iraq guys:Spoiler
1. Why 2006 and not more recently? Come to think of it, what date, if not time of day (also omitted)?
2. What's the composition of the 50,000+? (Nationality as well.)
3. Who's commanding them; is Wellington there? Or was the guy DeLancey was talking to only commanding the Coldstream Guards and Royal Horse Artillery?
4. Why the heck was their reaction "assume that we're in the Arabia of 1815"? (Assuming that the French might be there does make sense in the context that "the same phenomenon that transported us here may also have put the French here.")
Finally, regarding Napoleon's Grande Armee (did I get that right as of June 1815?), it's nice to see him -- unlike Abigor -- appreciate the need for information and enemy dispositions, but I have these questions about that:Spoiler
1. Why were cuirassiers sent to reconnaissance in force as opposed to for the "main" advance? That is, unless the companies/SAS team had already killed off all the previously-sent light cavalry/dragoons sent to perform that role first...
2. Why did the survivor of the attempted probe then fail to add that in addition to the "rapid-firing rifles," the supposed Englishment had different uniform or ethnicity, or that they were firing from "holes in the ground"? (Unless the Guards were firing from other forms of cover.)
3. I don't know if Napoleonic-era mortars had indirect/NLOS capability, but shouldn't Napoleon recognize that something else is out of the ordinary when a rocket just so happens to tip over in midair and perfectly one-shot his precious artillery?
You could stand to refine/clear up the picture of what's going on in this first 'chapter' and otherwise make it more clear what's already happened since the time/place swap and who's around, but DO NOT STOP *fist shake*
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Hey, he is dealing with a foe who is not fighting accoring to the Europena styles of war. He's supposed to be confused, and no one who has seen the Brits through their camo has exactly lived to tell anyone about it. It's a whole new ballgame, and the French have to rye to detemibe how big a foe they face before any decisive action can occur. Do you think any Challenger 2s will be showing up by chance? They think the SAS is bad, they have seen nothing yet.
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Night_stalker wrote:Hey, he is dealing with a foe who is not fighting accoring to the Europena styles of war. He's supposed to be confused, and no one who has seen the Brits through their camo has exactly lived to tell anyone about it. It's a whole new ballgame, and the French have to rye to detemibe how big a foe they face before any decisive action can occur. Do you think any Challenger 2s will be showing up by chance? They think the SAS is bad, they have seen nothing yet.
While he may be confused enough to get things wrong, the surviving cuirassier-turned-scout should be telling that something is amiss besides it being "merely" twenty specially-equipped riflemen, considering that he was able to get close enough to count them... usually in confusion I would think numbers is one of those factors mistaken. I do agree though as to the need for information and it's good to see a fictional general from any era who recognizes this need; fictional-Petraeus is one of the first I could recall, but now fictional-Napoleon warms my heart by doing so... too bad he's fucked anyway. :lol:
Do you think any Challenger 2s will be showing up by chance? They think the SAS is bad, they have seen nothing yet.
I don't think they even recognize that the SAS are a separate unit from the Guards Light Regiment yet... and considering the circumstances, not sure how much difference there'll be. But yeah, "merely" elite "skirmishers" and "armored horseless, mobile artillery"... a difference that'll probably shake Napoleon to the core even more. :twisted:
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Oh yeah, that's a dirty, dirty, dirty draft. I wanted to gauge interest.

As for the timeframe question - I picked 2006 because I wanted a really bad situation for Wellington's men (and because I wanted Mastiff's to be in inventory for the modern forces), but I might alter this to 2004 Al-Amarah, as that's a really notable time period for the area -mainly Johnson Beharry, but also because I got a lot out of the book Sniper One.
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The french trilieurs would have been sent in instead of the heavy cavalry and we should have seen a bit more of a skirmish between the sharpshooters of the day.
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weemadando wrote:As for the timeframe question - I picked 2006 because I wanted a really bad situation for Wellington's men (and because I wanted Mastiff's to be in inventory for the modern forces), but I might alter this to 2004 Al-Amarah, as that's a really notable time period for the area -mainly Johnson Beharry, but also because I got a lot out of the book Sniper One.
If you're looking to alter it to 2004, and liked Sniper One, then I strongly recommend Richard Holmes' Dusty Warriors - it's an excellent read, not just for the retelling of the PWRR tour, but of how an armoured infantry battlegroup works.
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Thanas wrote:The french trilieurs would have been sent in instead of the heavy cavalry and we should have seen a bit more of a skirmish between the sharpshooters of the day.
Yeah, because the Charleville musket, whose range is at maximum 200 yards can compete with a .50 caliber rifle that can hti targets at over a mile away.
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weemadando wrote:As for the timeframe question - I picked 2006 because I wanted a really bad situation for Wellington's men (and because I wanted Mastiff's to be in inventory for the modern forces), but I might alter this to 2004 Al-Amarah, as that's a really notable time period for the area -mainly Johnson Beharry, but also because I got a lot out of the book Sniper One.
This is the start of a damned good story. Congratulations. At the moment, the scenario you've set up is working fine so I'd suggest you stick with it (there's always reason to go back and try something better but it rarely works as well as one hopes). The "first idea" is usually the best one.

I'm really looking forward to the next part if this. It's going to be interesting to see the Iraq reaction to a large force that is not casualty-averse and has no concept of public relations.
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Thanas wrote:The french trilieurs would have been sent in instead of the heavy cavalry and we should have seen a bit more of a skirmish between the sharpshooters of the day.
Yeah, because the Charleville musket, whose range is at maximum 200 yards can compete with a .50 caliber rifle that can hti targets at over a mile away.
Don't be retarded. Of course everybody knows that - it is just that these would be the guys sent in and they would try to close to fire. Instead of, you know, the heavy cavalry getting sent in in a scouting role.
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I think this is the first time travel story where I see people from the past coming to the present in force. I find the situation of Wellington's army particularly interesting out of the two forces and I will follow continue to follow this story.

It also made me laugh. :D
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Thanas wrote:
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Thanas wrote:The french trilieurs would have been sent in instead of the heavy cavalry and we should have seen a bit more of a skirmish between the sharpshooters of the day.
Yeah, because the Charleville musket, whose range is at maximum 200 yards can compete with a .50 caliber rifle that can hti targets at over a mile away.
Don't be retarded. Of course everybody knows that - it is just that these would be the guys sent in and they would try to close to fire. Instead of, you know, the heavy cavalry getting sent in in a scouting role.
Right, and the Brits would allow that to happen. More then likely they would be targeted and neutralized very quickly.
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Night_stalker wrote:Right, and the Brits would allow that to happen. More then likely they would be targeted and neutralized very quickly.
As I said, don't be retarded. Of course they would be neutralized very quickly. Everybody who has even an ounce of military knowledge knows that. Your attempts to enlighten me are very amusing.

However, they are very strong in numbers and unlike the others, use terrain for cover, so depending on how many shooters the Brits have and what their positions are the French might actually get a distant look at their opponents.
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Yeah, but at a distance, it's hard to tell how many there truly are. At a distance, all wearing nearly identical camoflage outfits...
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Why exactly did the 2006 era forces choose to fight Napoleon then and there in the first place? If they must fight, why not quietly retreat and wait for him to be engaged with another army before providing support? It just seems somewhat random that they decided to fight in Wellington's place.
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Well, the French kinda forced them into fighting, if I'm reading between the lines correctly.
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The impression I get is that a ROB dumped them onto the ridge the night before the battle, and realised that with Wellington's army gone they were it. Moreover, I'm not sure how well even modern light infantry would do against Napoleonic cavalry if they were caught on the line of march, and they may have decided that they would have a much better chance of survival by engaging the Armee du Nord from prepared positions on the ridge.
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From what I recall, the 2006 British forces are not even sure that there is any of the Seventh Coalition's forces remaining in June 1815! If the BBC reporter's count was "accurate" (in the sense of the combined-transported-Brit-presence being indeed closer to 50,000), then that might leave only less than 20,000 of the 1815 British army... if any, and who knows where on the battlefield they are right now; for all we know it could be just our 2006 Brits holding Hougoumont by themselves! Blucher's Prussians would have yet to have reached the field (historically aren't they days away?), so unless a vehicle was around that, along with a squaddie, could be spared to link up with Blucher by now, they're a non-issue.

Btw, what "regiment" are the "Guards Light" exactly? Wiki search turned up nothing, so are our "2006'ers" a particular unit of the Foot Guards?
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Guards Light Regiment were one of the 1815ers, the regiment who had initially been posted to hold the Hougemont chateau.
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Nitpick - the force holding Hougemont wasn't a single battalion - it was an ad hoc unit formed from the light companies of the Guards battalions up on the ridge.
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So what exactly is the 2006 British unit that (along with the SAS team) got time-switched with the original holders of Hougoumont?

Nitpicking in turn that the connectors of "who"/"when" are a bit rough -- when I read that the hole had been knocked in by the 1815ers, the context (of it being used by the 2006 marksman) made it look like it had been by the 2006ers, hence my thinking that they were "Guards Light Regiment."
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Edward Yee wrote:From what I recall, the 2006 British forces are not even sure that there is any of the Seventh Coalition's forces remaining in June 1815! If the BBC reporter's count was "accurate" (in the sense of the combined-transported-Brit-presence being indeed closer to 50,000), then that might leave only less than 20,000 of the 1815 British army.
There's not really any reason to believe that his number is any more accurate than Wellington's 70,000, at least not that I saw. Besides which the reporter's words are "easily more than fifty-thousand strong", which I presume means the entire 1815 army has been transported.
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