The question on my mind is.. Why should we believe the second one?Yesterday evening on 4 June 2010, the IDF released an audio recording of a radio transmission between the Israeli Navy vessel and the Flotilla ships wherein unidentified flotilla passengers tell the Israeli Navy vessel to “shut up, go back to Auschwitz” and “we’re helping Arabs go against the US, don’t forget 9/11.” There have been questions regarding the authenticity of the recording as well as its attribution to a communication with the Mavi Marmara.
So to clarify: the audio was edited down to cut out periods of silence over the radio as well as incomprehensible comments so as to make it easier for people to listen to the exchange. We have now uploaded the entire segment of 5 minutes and 58 seconds in which the exchange took place and the comments were made.
This transmission had originally cited the Mavi Marmara ship as being the source of these remarks, however, due to an open channel, the specific ship or ships in the “Freedom Flotilla” responding to the Israeli Navy could not be identified. During radio transmissions between Israeli Navy and the ships of the “Free Gaza” Flotilla on 31 May 2010, the Israeli Navy ship attempts to make contact with the ‘Defne Y’ on channel 1-6. Other ships from the flotilla respond on the channel, without identifying themselves. At some point during the radio exchange the Israeli Navy is told by one of the ships to “shut up, go back to Auschwitz” (2:05) and “don’t forget 9-11″ (5:42).
Below are both the edited and unedited version of the exchange:
IDF admits to editing audio of Flotilla attack.
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Re: IDF admits to editing audio of Flotilla attack.
So what do you think is the source of the audio?
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No reason to believe. Past history has shown that the Israelis will tell any lie that suits their purpose. They can be assumed to be lying about everything related to this matter.
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Re: IDF admits to editing audio of Flotilla attack.
how does "dont forget 9/11 " even make sense as a response ?
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It certainly sounds to me like this audio was almost tailor made to inflame an American audience listening to the audio and not an Israeli one. What the fuck do the Israelis care about 9/11? And the other comment about helping Arabs go against America? It's like those shitty propaganda broadcasts from Tokyo Rose. A lot of gibberish meant to get someone upset yet doesn't make sense at the same time.xerex wrote:how does "dont forget 9/11 " even make sense as a response ?
You have to wonder if perhaps the Israelis did a little doctoring to appeal to their overlords across the sea and get them more upset at the love boat people and not them.
Then again everything surrounding this mess is turning into bad theater with the AP supposedly accused of editing out knives and pipes from the pictures of one of the crowd scenes. What a fucking mess.
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Re: IDF admits to editing audio of Flotilla attack.
You forgot to mention that the same applies to all states, of all times, under all circumstances.Edi wrote:No reason to believe. Past history has shown that the Israelis will tell any lie that suits their purpose. They can be assumed to be lying about everything related to this matter.
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Re: IDF admits to editing audio of Flotilla attack.
I don't know; for all we know it was manufactured in the IDF's HQ by PR spindoctors.Dominus Atheos wrote:So what do you think is the source of the audio?
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